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Hammock Parties 03-18-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8468022)

Barry Richardson probably cost us some games the last two seasons.

Off the top of my head, I can't really think of one I'd blame him for.

I know he didn't cost us a playoff game. In fact, that was one of his better games ironically.

The Poz 03-18-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8467997)
Samson Satele?

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4232/samson-satele

Free agent C Samson Satele was arrested in Honolulu, Hawaii on disorderly conduct charges early Saturday morning.
Oakland's starting center the past three seasons, Satele is a Hawaii native. Not expected back with the Raiders, Satele graded out as the league's 18th best center in 2011 by Pro Football Focus. He has yet to line up a visit in a free agent market unusually ripe with centers, however, and getting arrested won't help his cause

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8468041)
Off the top of my head, I can't really think of one I'd blame him for.

I know he didn't cost us a playoff game. In fact, that was one of his better games ironically.

Holding nullifies 1st down and moves chiefs inside the 10 yard line on 2 minute drive when we are down by 4 points (don't remember which game)

Hell, he's had crucial holding penalties in several games that really hurt iirc

one game he sort of just freaked out and almost had to be physically removed from game when he screwed up several times in a short time frame

Chiefs had to waste a timeout because he didn't know the play or snap count?

TheGuardian 03-18-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8468041)
Off the top of my head, I can't really think of one I'd blame him for.

I know he didn't cost us a playoff game. In fact, that was one of his better games ironically.

When you kill multiple drives a game that generally ends up in losing points. A long time ago Vermiel talked about the fact that teams that won games had X amount of drives. Well when you have 1 guy killing the ****ing offense (outside of Cassel) over and over again, that costs you drives.

This thread was full of classics.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...rry+richardson

My usual detractors are in there. Making complete fools of themselves. You'd think at some point people would respect that I know a thing or two about this ****ing game.

Frankie 03-18-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poz (Post 8468048)
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4232/samson-satele

Free agent C Samson Satele was arrested in Honolulu, Hawaii on disorderly conduct charges early Saturday morning.
Oakland's starting center the past three seasons, Satele is a Hawaii native. Not expected back with the Raiders, Satele graded out as the league's 18th best center in 2011 by Pro Football Focus. He has yet to line up a visit in a free agent market unusually ripe with centers, however, and getting arrested won't help his cause

:(

He's got such a kickass name.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468049)
Holding nullifies 1st down and moves chiefs inside the 10 yard line on 2 minute drive when we are down by 4 points (don't remember which game)

Hell, he's had crucial holding penalties in several games that really hurt iirc

one game he sort of just freaked out and almost had to be physically removed from game when he screwed up several times in a short time frame

Chiefs had to waste a timeout because he didn't know the play or snap count?

Ah, yes. Wasn't that the Raiders game in 2010? Week 17?

Frankie 03-18-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468049)
Holding nullifies 1st down and moves chiefs inside the 10 yard line on 2 minute drive when we are down by 4 points (don't remember which game)

Hell, he's had crucial holding penalties in several games that really hurt iirc

one game he sort of just freaked out and almost had to be physically removed from game when he screwed up several times in a short time frame

Chiefs had to waste a timeout because he didn't know the play or snap count?

It's really not one play or two. It's the fact that his protection disablility constantly handcuffed our O and killed many promising drives. As a whole I bet Richardson's play alone has accounted for more than a couple of games we could have won and didn't.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8468085)
It's really not one play or two. It's the fact that his protection disablility constantly handcuffed our O and killed many promising drives. As a whole I bet Richardson's play alone has accounted for more than a couple of games we could have won and didn't.

I imagine he had a negative effect on our offensive game planning every week.

Rausch 03-18-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8468057)
You'd think at some point people would respect that I know a thing or two about this ****ing game.

Quit pimping dog$#it overhyped corners and combine heroes and we might...

TheGuardian 03-18-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8468085)
It's really not one play or two. It's the fact that his protection disablility constantly handcuffed our O and killed many promising drives. As a whole I bet Richardson's play alone has accounted for more than a couple of games we could have won and didn't.

I don't really have any doubt that Richardson alone cost us some games. He killed tons of drives with penalties, false starts, holding, and flat out getting his ass WHIPPED on a weekly basis. The guy never improved one ****ing iota the entire time he was here, or as a starter. He was beyond dreadful.

The Winston signing is worth celebrating because his play alone will elevate the offense. Even if Cassel is still the starter, the running game will benefit highly from the addition. And if Quinn can unseat Cassel the offense should be several notches better.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 12:14 PM

Chiefs score big with Winston signing
March, 17, 2012
7:20PM ET
By Bill Williamson

Agreeing upon a contract with the former Houston right tackle is a big move by the Chiefs. Winston solidifies a real weak spot in Kansas City.

The Chiefs have added running back Peyton Hillis, tight end Kevin Boss, cornerback Stanford Routt and now Winston. This is arguably the biggest move.

Winston, who was a surprise salary-cap cut, was one of the better offensive linemen on the market. He replaces Barry Richardson, who was the weak link on the Chiefs’ line.

Winston is known as a strong run-blocker, so this will help an already-good running game. He had other trips planned, but the Chiefs kept him in town until a deal was finalized.

Former San Diego left tackle Marucs McNeill said Friday he will visit the Chiefs next week. It will be interesting to see if he still makes the trip. He could have been backup plan had Winston not signed there.

I doubt the Chiefs would replace left tackle Branden Albert with McNeill.

I think most of the Chiefs’ remaining moves in free agency may focus on depth. With Winston signed, expect the Chiefs to focus on either an inside linebacker or a defensive tackle with the No. 11 pick in the draft.

TheGuardian 03-18-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8468096)
Quit pimping dog$#it overhyped corners and combine heroes and we might...

You gotta have me confused.

I've never been a workout warrior guy or combine guy. You're confusing me with Mecca, somehow.

And what overhyped corner have I pimped? JFC.

ToxSocks 03-18-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468098)
Chiefs score big with Winston signing
March, 17, 2012
7:20PM ET
By Bill Williamson

Agreeing upon a contract with the former Houston right tackle is a big move by the Chiefs. Winston solidifies a real weak spot in Kansas City.

The Chiefs have added running back Peyton Hillis, tight end Kevin Boss, cornerback Stanford Routt and now Winston. This is arguably the biggest move.

Winston, who was a surprise salary-cap cut, was one of the better offensive linemen on the market. He replaces Barry Richardson, who was the weak link on the Chiefs’ line.

Winston is known as a strong run-blocker, so this will help an already-good running game. He had other trips planned, but the Chiefs kept him in town until a deal was finalized.

Former San Diego left tackle Marucs McNeill said Friday he will visit the Chiefs next week. It will be interesting to see if he still makes the trip. He could have been backup plan had Winston not signed there.

I doubt the Chiefs would replace left tackle Branden Albert with McNeill.

I think most of the Chiefs’ remaining moves in free agency may focus on depth. With Winston signed, expect the Chiefs to focus on either an inside linebacker or a defensive tackle with the No. 11 pick in the draft.

The addition of Luke Kuechly would be a solid move to play next to DJ. Who ever comes and and replaces Cassel would be getting one hell of a team.

Rausch 03-18-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8468101)
You gotta have me confused.

I've never been a workout warrior guy or combine guy. You're confusing me with Mecca, somehow.

And what overhyped corner have I pimped? JFC.

My bad.

For some reason I had you confused with Voyager...

milkman 03-18-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8468160)
The addition of Luke Kuechly would be a solid move to play next to DJ. Who ever comes and and replaces Cassel would be getting one hell of a team.

Kuechly isn't going to play next to DJ.

He plays the same position in this defense.


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