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Mecca 08-31-2009 02:32 PM

The reason it's a big deal is teams don't fire coaches 2 weeks before the season, it just doesn't make much sense.

If he didn't want him he should have said he wouldn't take the job if Gailey was forced on him, when past coaches had assistants forced on them people said they were pussies and idiots for taking that.

Brock 08-31-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6018974)
I doubt this was it... Pioli and Belichick are based off of hiring guys that jell with coaches around eachother. Pioli would have never made Haley keep Gailey if they disagreed and had different theorys.

Well, it's just speculation either way.

Brock 08-31-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6018977)
If he didn't want him he should have said he wouldn't take the job if Gailey was forced on him

ROFL And maybe never get another opportunity ever again.

KCrockaholic 08-31-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6018956)
Then the question begs itself...why now instead of when he was hired?

I think he just wanted to give Gailey a chance. He felt, at the time Gailey is a nice OC to have. They gave hime a chance through 3 preseason games, they didnt like the 33 total points weve scored, so they canned him.

Mecca 08-31-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6018990)
ROFL And maybe never get another opportunity ever again.

Didn't people say Herm was a pussy cause he let Gunther be forced on him?

Why's Haley get a break if he did the same thing?

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6018993)
I think he just wanted to give Gailey a chance. He felt, at the time Gailey is a nice OC to have. They gave hime a chance through 3 preseason games, they didnt like the 33 total points weve scored, so they canned him.

I guarantee you, it goes a lot deeper than that.

Clark Hunt was on the hook for $1 million dollars plus to Chan Gailey. I'm positive that there were discussions with both Haley & Pioli about their ability and willingness to work with Gailey. Haley was likely asked to at least give it a go with Gailey, for the sake of Hunt's pocketbook but was also likely to have the option of final say.

Haley gave it a go and it wasn't working for him. End of story.

Brock 08-31-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6018997)
Didn't people say Herm was a pussy cause he let Gunther be forced on him?

Why's Haley get a break if he did the same thing?

What people on the internet say about him is irrelevant. Pretty much nobody is going to be able to dictate to an NFL team the particulars of the job, unless you're a veteran coach with a track record.

KCrockaholic 08-31-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6018981)
Well, it's just speculation either way.

Whats speculation? Im stating a fact about how the Patriots run their business.

keg in kc 08-31-2009 02:38 PM

I'd say the fact that Gailey just got fired may be an indication that he might not have been forced on Haley to start with.

DeezNutz 08-31-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6018997)
Didn't people say Herm was a pussy cause he let Gunther be forced on him?

Why's Haley get a break if he did the same thing?

Because he ultimately got him out, however late it might be.

At least Pioli and Hunt were amendable to the possibility of doing anything to help their HC be successful.

Brock 08-31-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6019005)
Whats speculation? Im stating a fact about how the Patriots run their business.

No, you're not. You're stating an opinion about the state of affairs between Haley and Gailey.

KCrockaholic 08-31-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6019006)
I'd say the fact that Gailey just got fired may be an indication that he might not have been forced on Haley to start with.

I think this is how it was. I dont think he was forced either way. Thats not how things work if Pioli is trying to duplicate the patriot way.

Brock 08-31-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6019006)
I'd say the fact that Gailey just got fired may be an indication that he might not have been forced on Haley to start with.

It's an indication that he got the okay to get rid of him NOW, not what happened 6 months ago.

doomy3 08-31-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6018997)
Didn't people say Herm was a pussy cause he let Gunther be forced on him?

Why's Haley get a break if he did the same thing?

Refresh my memory if Herm fired Gunther at any point.

Mecca 08-31-2009 02:42 PM

Well if you think back Clark was consistently overly complimentary of Herm and Gailey which could have easily had alot to do with how much money he still owed them...


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