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sedated 03-18-2012 03:24 PM

Seriously? People think we need to replace Lewis? Dude has been great (IMHO) and has looked to be getting consistently better. I'm hoping we lock him up long term.

sedated 03-18-2012 03:27 PM

Lewis is a solid piece. You can't have hall of farmers everywhere, or you end up in a spot like this year where you have to let Carr go or spend $30+ million on your starting secondary.

Titty Meat 03-18-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8468679)
Seriously? People think we need to replace Lewis? Dude has been great (IMHO) and has looked to be getting consistently better.

Lewis is an average player he does some good things but Barron is a much better prospect who can do it all.

BigMeatballDave 03-18-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468641)
we still need improvement at starting positions

Defense:
Lewis(FS)
Belcher(MLB)
Amon Gordon(NT)

Offense
Cassel(QB)
center (Hudson at LG or C?, is he ready?)
Fullback

It's not like we are pro bowl everywhere. Just have freedom and flexibility.

tbh we need depth just about everywhere

You cant have probowl players everywhere. Lewis and Belcher are solid players.

RealSNR 03-18-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8468679)
Seriously? People think we need to replace Lewis Belcher? Dude has been great (IMHO) and has looked to be getting consistently better.

FYP.

There are tons of players like that on this team. Either way we're going to be drafting for depth this year, and that will push/unseat some of them. It's just the way it works.

If you want to gain depth at a position, you can't always just be satisfied with your starters. Sometimes you have to force them to step aside if they don't improve enough.

BossChief 03-18-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8468679)
Seriously? People think we need to replace Lewis? Dude has been great (IMHO) and has looked to be getting consistently better.

Look at the roster.

Anyone we pick will be at a position of not much need unless we reach big time.

Its not that I want to replace anyone...or think they need replacing...its strictly a value thing. In this passing league, we could stand for increased competition at safety.

If last year taught us anything its that we need depth/competition at safety.

Titty Meat 03-18-2012 03:32 PM

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Reminds me of another safety we have on the roster

CaliforniaChief 03-18-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8468691)
Look at the roster.

Anyone we pick will be at a position of not much need unless we reach big time.

Its not that I want to replace anyone...or think they need replacing...its strictly a value thing. In this passing league, we could stand for increased competition at safety.

If last year taught us anything its that we need depth/competition at safety.

Agreed. I'll also say that pass rushers are increasingly valuable as well. Maybe blowing some money on Wimbley is going to happen. Or maybe we draft more passrushers for depth?

Saul Good 03-18-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468641)
we still need improvement at starting positions

Defense:
Lewis(FS)
Belcher(MLB)
Amon Gordon(NT)

Offense
Cassel(QB)
center (Hudson at LG or C?, is he ready?)
Fullback

It's not like we are pro bowl everywhere. Just have freedom and flexibility.

tbh we need depth just about everywhere

This is almost completely wrong.

We NEED improvement at QB and C (or Guard if Hudson moves to C, and I hope he doesn't).

It would be very nice to improve at NT and FB (but Hillis could play FB part of the time).

Lewis and Belcher are just fine. They are league average starters or close to it.


There is not a single position that absolutely must be addressed in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

Titty Meat 03-18-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8468718)
This is almost completely wrong.



There is not a single position that absolutely must be addressed in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

Nose tackle.

BossChief 03-18-2012 03:44 PM

With Seattle signing Flynn, that means its gonna be real tough to trade down.

Our only hope is Trent Richardson dropping to our pick and either the Bengals or Steelers moving up to take him.

Pittsburgh brought in Haley to balance the attack and Mendenhall might miss the whole year to injury.

The Bengals would surely LOVE to have a guy like Trent and they have lots of ammo to be able to move up with.

Saul Good 03-18-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8468734)
Nose tackle.

Gordon was serviceable last year. NEED would have been RT if we didn't sign Winston or CB if we didn't sign Routt. NT isn't a need. It's a pretty big WANT, though.

BossChief 03-18-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8468734)
Nose tackle.

I think it would be real nice to take Chapman in the second or third round.

I think he is gonna be a real solid starter for somebody.

Shit, we can basically blow up a list of Alabamas starting defense...throw aa dart at it and take whoever the dart hits and have a good player.

That D was as stacked as any I can remember....going back to the old Miami days where Ray Lewis was behind Warren Sapp and "The Rock" was Sapps backup.

:thumb:

Ultra Peanut 03-18-2012 03:50 PM

voyager owned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6URizGIE6k

Titty Meat 03-18-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8468753)
I think it would be real nice to take Chapman in the second or third round.

I think he is gonna be a real solid starter for somebody.

Shit, we can basically blow up a list of Alabamas starting defense...throw aa dart at it and take whoever the dart hits and have a good player.

That D was as stacked as any I can remember....going back to the old Miami days where Ray Lewis was behind Warren Sapp and "The Rock" was Sapps backup.

:thumb:

LOL. Say some team really wants Tannehill: Trade down get an extra 2nd, Draft Barron Round 1, Use both seconds to trade up get Upshaw or Hightower, then round 3 draft Chapman.


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