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Sandy Vagina 12-18-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11961845)

oh, that's right ... the only problem is Alex Smith and Eric Fisher, everything else is super bowl level.

:doh!:

.. are you suggesting there might be an agenda against these two players??? Here at the CP?

how dare you, sir... how. dare. you. :harumph:

Hoover 12-18-2015 10:04 PM

Brett Perriman!

GloucesterChief 12-18-2015 10:11 PM

Wait a year and then draft Gabe Marks or River Cracraft. Both fit the Welker\Amendola mold though Marks is a bit more dynamic.

saphojunkie 12-19-2015 12:16 PM

There's no reason to think Reid doesn't want a second dynamic WR. See Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin.

Conley could be that guy, lord knows he has the straight-line speed to be a deep threat. But the one combine stat that separated him from Julio Jones was his short-shuttle, which my amateur guess would assign to separation in quicker routes. I think that could end up being the albatross around his neck.

The Chiefs should absolutely be targeting another dynamic WR in the draft. Smith's contract is cost-prohibitive for drafting a first round QB this year, but not next year. Get another playmaker so he is ready to blossom when our QBOTF becomes the QBOTP.

Maclin, Kelce, FIRST ROUND WR, Conley, Charles, Ware, West. That's a hell of an arsenal for any QB to play with.

O.city 12-19-2015 12:23 PM

Charles as well, if healthy.

I'm just not sure Conley has the short area quickness to be effective in a whole array of route concepts. That's my reasoning for talking to dj about him playing the x. Maybe he surprises me and develops those areas more and really with a competent z accross from him in maclin, you need him to be your deep bug play threat.

Not all wrs are going to be well rounded, just need to be great at a few things when your in his situation

mcaj22 12-19-2015 12:57 PM

Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

O.city 12-19-2015 01:04 PM

I would like them to just keep stocking the position though, like the steelers and cardinals have.

Yeah, yeah our qb is our qb is whatever

Direckshun 12-19-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11962357)
Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

Win now veteran team? We're the 8th youngest roster.

keg in kc 12-19-2015 01:19 PM

I'm comfortable with Wilson and Conley needs some time to develop.

Buehler445 12-19-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11962357)
Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

DEVARD MOTHER****ING DARLING. For the....loss.

mcaj22 12-19-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11962383)
Win now veteran team? We're the 8th youngest roster.

what are Alex Smith, Jamaal Charles, Jeremy Maclin, Ben Grubbs, Dustin Colquitt, Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, Sean Smith, etc

are these not NFL veterans? Even if the depth of this roster is young some of the highest paid players and biggest contributors are either A) in the prime of their career or B) in their late twenties approaching 30 or over 30.

That to me is a win now veteran team.

The days of 36 year old Ray Lewis leading your defensive unit being considered a veteran team are over. Guys retire much earlier, the twilight of their careers is coming much earlier (except QB).

Hoover 12-19-2015 03:49 PM

I'd rather invest in the TE position as crazy as that sounds than chase after #2 WR.

Don't get me wrong, I love Travis Kelce, but he is a little all over the place, and thing a another TE option would work well with Alex.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2015 03:54 PM

I'll happily take one of Cincinnati's #2 receivers at 2 years 10mil. Their stats will be suppressed by how much the ball gets distributed in their offense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11962539)
I'd rather invest in the TE position as crazy as that sounds than chase after #2 WR.

Don't get me wrong, I love Travis Kelce, but he is a little all over the place, and thing a another TE option would work well with Alex.

We should have went after Vernon Davis when he was available. Low risk, high reward and has chemistry with Smith

milkman 12-19-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11962357)
Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

What more could I want.

I want a guy that wll extend himself on deep balls that are just a little high, a little long.

I want a guy that doesn't leave me questioning his effort.


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