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rabblerouser 12-21-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11968091)
One important thing you have missing- lack of injuries. Just ask the Ravens or Chargers about that one.

I don't know if you've noticed, but we've lost our top nickel back, 2 RBs, and our Oline has been decimated.

Good teams overcome injuries.

The Packers had 25 people on IR in 2010. They won the Super Bowl anyway.

Discuss Thrower 12-21-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11968187)
Damn, for a grown man, you sure act like a complete crybaby.

It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

DJ's left nut 12-21-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11968188)
I don't know if you've noticed, but we've lost our top nickel back, 2 RBs, and our Oline has been decimated.

Good teams overcome injuries.

The Packers had 25 people on IR in 2010. They won the Super Bowl anyway.

No kidding. The Chiefs haven't been hit as hard as the Ravens or Chargers, but I'd put them at above average in terms of the dings they've suffered through this year.

3 wins in a row without Houston (not to mention the entire comeback against the Bills without him). Losing Charles and Gaines. DeVito and Bailey gone for long stretches. Poe's slow return to form.

I don't think the Chiefs have to apologize for any good health this season. A few teams have had worse but many have had better.

Sandy Vagina 12-21-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11968191)
It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

No. You're just a twat with no substance or mettle.

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BigRichard 12-21-2015 11:28 AM

Never wanted to get rid of Reid but wanted to see Alex gone. Still not a fan of Alex. Need to keep looking for a better prospect.

Sandy Vagina 12-21-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11968196)
No kidding. The Chiefs haven't been hit as hard as the Ravens or Chargers, but I'd put them at above average in terms of the dings they've suffered through this year.

3 wins in a row without Houston (not to mention the entire comeback against the Bills without him). Losing Charles and Gaines. DeVito and Bailey gone for long stretches. Poe's slow return to form.

I don't think the Chiefs have to apologize for any good health this season. A few teams have had worse but many have had better.

Sounds wrong to say, but don't forget Jeff Allen... and then there's Ben Grubbs. Two decent starters... replaced by scrubs, really.

stevieray 12-21-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11968191)
It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

or you just like being miserable and it's a self fulfilling prophecy.


:shrug:

staylor26 12-21-2015 11:37 AM

I've already said it a million times, but Discuss is the biggest idiot on the board bar none. What a ****ing tool.

brucey_72 12-21-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11968037)
I'm still waiting for another playoff win.


I wasn't even in high school yet, last time the Chiefs won a playoff game...

Last time the Chiefs won a playoff game I wasn't quite 3 years old yet.

UK_Chief 12-21-2015 12:32 PM

Reid and Dorsey get some shit but overall they've done a good job. Win a playoff game and I'm sold

Chiefspants 12-21-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11968191)
It's almost like I've learned pattern recognition or something.

More and more I've learned that the playoffs in any sport are a complete crapshoot. The trick for any GM should be to build a playoff caliber team, because ANYTHING can happen come playoff team.

Do I expect Alex and Andy to win the Super Bowl? No.

But did anyone expect Joe Flacco or Tom Coughlin's teams to go all the way? Absolutely not.

The fact that this team can compete with the best should excite anybody. Waving away playoff contention as if it isn't a major accomplishment puts you in a confusing place as a fan.

rockymtnchief 12-21-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11968318)
More and more I've learned that the playoffs in any sport are a complete crapshoot. The trick for any GM should be to build a playoff caliber team, because ANYTHING can happen come playoff team.

Prime example, a sub-500 Seattle team beating a good Saints team a few years back in the first round of the playoffs.

Shekelsteinberg 12-21-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11968162)
Amazing what happens when Romeo Crennel isn't the head coach isn't it?

Haven't listened to a minute of Jim Rome programing in a year, but hey, you can assume whatever you want to assume.

In regards to the OP: they've managed to get above .500 three years in a row thanks to two non consecutive seasons playing backup QBs. Awesome. Notice how they weren't competitive against teams with good quarterback play in both 2013 and now 2015.

I'll say it again as I said before the season started: the ceiling with Reid as coach and Smith at QB is one playoff win in three or four appearances. Hooray, they'll probably luck into playing Brian Hoyer in the wild card round where all they have to worry about is blocking Watt and Clowney and making sure DeAndre Hopkins doesn't skull**** the secondary. The Chiefs finally break the playoff streak only to get housed by Brady or Roethlisberger.

Next year with a harder schedule and without the services of at least one of Sean Smith, Jaye Howard and Tamba, people here will Homer it up and will think the team is just a few bounces away from a SB (Take away one Charles fumble against Denver and they win the division!!! ) and will crow about how whatever first round OL Dorsey takes in May in addition to whatever middle tier FA signings are brought in to shore up other deficiencies.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence here by rehashing the impact most rookies have.

Bottom line is the team is slightly improved over the 2013 team that ultimately got embarrassed by a one dimensional Colts team. Secondary is better and the defensive line is better, and Maclin is playing better than Bowe, but it's not going to be good enough for a serious playoff run -this year or next.

They didn't beat good teams in 2013, they beat two good teams in 2014 because of injuries to key players for Seattle (and still needed some referee help) and because they caught the Patriots when they were playing like ass early in the season. 2015 they didn't belong on the field with the Bengals defense or against Aaron Rodgers.

Of course that's not really the goal here, fans have lowered their expectations to the point of just being happy for a playoff win. Fine. I get it. I don't remember the Chiefs winning a playoff game because I was in preschool. But if they win one this year it's because they caught all the right breaks against depleted teams in both the regular season and one game in the playoffs.

The defense isn't good enough because of coaching and personnel. They're not good enough to sustain the < 17 ppg average they've earned the last eight weeks and that's the only way the team can win. It's an offensive league.

The offense isn't good enough because the line isn't good enough because of personel and coaching, and because it's a two man receiving show where both of those guys aren't perfect enough to mask the deficiencies around them. The offensive issues are compounded by a QB that doesn't take risks, takes sacks at a high clip and can't be relied upon to score points in a 2 minute drill situation because of every aforementioned factor. Unless Dorsey somehow trades for the Dallas offensive line, it's not going to be good enough.

I guess I'll be happy with a record being broken that has made the Chiefs a punchline for the better part of two decades (if they pull that out and that's not all that likely either) , but I'm not going to ever believe it's going to translate to anything meaningful beyond that. The team just flat out isn't good enough and their record this year backs that up.


This whole post made me cringe. You should be embarassed tbh fam.

Discuss Thrower 12-21-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11968318)

The fact that this team can compete with the best should excite anybody. Waving away playoff contention as if it isn't a major accomplishment puts you in a confusing place as a fan.

Oh they "competed" with Green Bay this year, didn't they.

Chiefspants 12-21-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11968379)
Oh they "competed" with Green Bay this year, didn't they.

Football is a hard game. Almost every NFL team gets blown out at least once a season. If that's all it took for you to waive the white flag, the Chiefs might not be for you.


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