See - now isn't everyone happy?

But seriously, Jamaal Charles is going to **** shit up this year.

Is he still cuming for a visit?

Ill be cumming if he signs.

:rolleyes:

Quick search on google shows that Schwartz did schedule a visit with us, but theyre a couple of days old

Profootballtalk reporting Winston to visit Rams and Lions.

Bob Gretz reporting Winston in Baltimore.

Good job guys.

:LOL:

Btw - way to hit on the Boss and Winston signings.

No doubt.

If they somehow land Tolbert we can get by with Cassel and Brady Quinn.

Thanks - was just passing along what I was told.

i wouldn't draft poe...

and 'will shields' will be there in the 3rd...guard is the easiest position to find in the draft...and anyways, we just drafted hudson and asamoah, we don't even need a guard...go get a center which is better value

and again, I firmly believe pioli won't draft a guard at #11...i'd draft jenkins or perry if we can't trade down..

LMAO

You think the Chiefs are going to draft "Dunt'a Robinson?"

Are they going to wind the clock back 8 years to do that?

What about Luke Kuechly?

i honestly don't know anything about him...and i'm not as down on belcher as some

plus i just place a higher value on cb and de/olb...

That wouldn't be my first choice but we don't have a backup for DJ. Backup now starter in a few years maybe?

I say no, no probably not.

He's a good player, but I'd pass.

Is Quinn good enough to beat out cassel?

The following shitty QB's Quinn has been unable to beat out in his career:

Charlie Frye
Derrick Anderson
Kyle Orton
Tim Teblow

Everyone needs to take a step back on the whole "value at pick 11" crap.

I got news...no one is going to have VALUE at that position unless something drastic happens.

Guard, nose tackle, middle linebacker, safety, pass rusher. It doesn't matter what position they play. Take the guy you think is the top at his position. If that's Decastro, then fantastic. Kuechly? Great. Poe? Fine.

The point is, we had a gaping hole at right tackle that was going to FORCE us to draft a tackle at the 11th pick. Now, we are truly free to take the best available player.

LOL I forgot we had Siler as another ILB.

Since we're not drafting a QB, which is always a foregone conclusion, we're in position to take a chance. Ironically, this risk might mitigate some of the hurt from the Carr departure:

Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

If Richardson is gone, he'll be the most talented player available.

Might be a good pick as insurance in case Routt really is a corner who gives up a touchdown and a huge penalty every game.

And Brady Quinn. Don't forget Brady Quinn.

that's my #1 choice...followed by perry

print em

Pretty big risk but potentially no bigger reward (Tannehill developing into a franchise QB aside) at our spot in the first.

With the way things are shaping up in free agency, I think it unlikely that Richardson falls to 11.

Should he be there, though, signing Hillis would not deter me from draftin him.

That being said, Jenkins is certainly an option to seriuosly consider.

Even if Richardson is available? I'm wanting:

Richardson
Jenkins

One of the two will be there. The latter might be Adam Jones II, but I'm willing to take the chance since there isn't a clearly defined need (aside from QB).

Drafting Pacman Jones to play Dime/Nickel at 11 would be stupid.

Jenkins could be a #1 cb down the road when Flowers contract is up....we're in a position to make a pick like that

perry could be the same thing...say hali starts to grind down in 3 years, we've got perry...plus we have no one the team right now to rush the passer besides hali and houston...if one of them is injured, ooof

this is why i don't want to waste a first round pick on a guard

You're drafting what you believe will be an eventual #1 CB, thus pushing Flowers to #2 and Rutt to safety, which I believe to be a viable option.

If you aren't going to draft Tannehill and have to pick at 11 I think you go pass rusher. Hali goes down this team is ****ed. The Chiefs only had 29 sacks last year.

Not for me. We still have money don't we? Let's get a guard or center.

If we had not signed Quinn, I'd say they might now take Tannehill and let either him or Stanzi develop for a couple of years. Cassel is probably our starter for the next two years anyway. :(

We could release Routt after one year but Jenkins wouldn't have had to be rushed on to the field. That's not a bad plan.

this draft is wide open for the Chiefs.

I would be fine with an OLB, but this player will not be as talented as Jenkins in this particular draft and at our spot.

Jenkins has serious red flags.

I smell a trade down.

Quinn won't stop them from drafting Tannehill if they really think that he is a franchise type QB. They can carry 4 QB's for 1 year or just cut Quinn.

Jenkins might not even go in the first round at all. He's essentially an Asante Samuel clone, but he won't go till late first or second.

I just pray the pick is not Kuchely. He is a monster at reading the option play, and screens and whatever else there is to read, but in the pro's that amounts to a vast minority of the plays.

I think Decastro is the pick

yeah, the caveat is that they check him out

it's amazing how everything you say is wrong

Of course he does. If he didn't, he wouldn't be there when we'd be picking.

Winston is a fantastic addition to the team for all the reasons that have already been mentioned.

1. We have not had a legit RT in a decade.
2. Strong oline play helps running game, QB play, which helps rest the D.
3. We don't have to blow a top pick on a RT

This is odd, but I have not wanted a FA like this since Hugh Douglas.

I like the addition of Hillis, really want Tolbert.
I really like the addition of Boss. Every team needs roll players

For everyone who is bitching we signed a RT but still have no QB, that's just the position we are in. I liked the Cassel signing when it was made. It didn't work out, but its not like we have been passing on QBs left and right. There is nothing we can do this year so we are very limited in what we can do. Giving Orton a 5 year deal, is not something that is good long term.

I love where this team is sitting before the draft.

I'm an Oline homer so I'd love nothing more than to grab DeCastro or Konz, but we are now free to grab the best player available. Awesome day.

That's why I wouldn't take him at 11.

Plus Pass Rusher > CB in terms of value.

He signed a three-year deal in Dallas.

Sure, but the talent level of this particular CB is far greater than the OLB that will be available, thus reversing the potential value in this instance.

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Trying to come up with right upgrade comparison for KC's jump from BRich to Winston. Does not compute. Value too high.

If they can find a partner, definitely. I don't see a slam dunk @ 11 and this team needs better depth in the worst way. More picks would help.

So, did a little research tonight.....Look for yourself. Especially at 2011 stats.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playersta...d=8947&team=12

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playersta...d=7815&team=34

Brich to Winston is like going from Eric007 to Hamas.

None of the things i just said were far fetched ideas. im going off basically stuff i read, not really even my own opinions

LMAO

Richardson would be a great pick just for the instant orgasm I would have over McCluster's impending cut.

Just saw some post from some Texan fans that said he was great in run blocking but not so much against the pass. So I thought I'd check it out.

I see your great with words.

Sacks allowed don't tell the whole story. His total pressures allowed for the year were incredibly low (20). He had the 4th best run blocking grade for offensive tackles.

He's a beast.

We couldve had Terrence Cody over Mccluster...

According to PFF

Winston 11.1 rating

Richardson -39 rating

The cutting of Pollard for the Texans to pick up
paid back 10 fold

I was really happy until I read this.

How many more times did the Texans throw the ball?

Okay, my happiness is going up again.

I want to be really happy about this. Getting a right tackle will get us up to 10 players on offense, as opposed to playing with nine like we did most of last year. We just need a quarterback now.

Richardson is the mendoza line of RT

Well you need to realize that Winston played a ton more snaps due to the fact that the texans didnt have Casell/Palko 3 and out back there...

Im willing to bet he had 100+ snaps more than Brich...

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T Eric Winston gets $22 million over four years from the Chiefs http://wp.me/p14QSB-1GBc

Well what a great day for me.


Get over the flu, get to come to the parents house for a week for spring break after a month of hellish dental school, first dinner at home, fresh frog legs. Wowza.


Come sit down to the computer, Chiefs signed potentially the top RT in the league.

Great day.



P.S then I see the Quinn signing, MEH.

OMG VALUE!!!!!

All I got from that is B Rich is so slow, he can't even false start.

About the same actually.

Not bad. I wonder how much was guaranteed.

pioli is in league with the devil

that's nothing

We got the guy for that contract?


Holy moly.

Shocked. He was coming off a 5 year 30M DEAL.

Wow. That's cheap.

We didn't overpay at all.

Bravo Pioli.

That is a ****ing steal.

Winston should fire his agent.

we used barely half of carr's contract to get a top 5 RT...


pioli knows contracts...have to give him that

Waited him out I guess.

less than 6 mill a year for a top flight tackle?


seriously...it must be almost all guaranteed

bravo, scott