Yeah,the Rangers gave all that money to deGrom,who not surprisingly is hurt again,but they still have a good team.

I didnt understand why Chapman even signed with the Royals,i thought the Marlins were one team interested and he lives there anyway.I can't imagine the Royals would've offered him more money.

Vinnie went down tonight with an injury to the same shoulder that put him on the IL last year. Hopefully this isn't a chronic thing.

Is this the lowest point in this franchise's history? At least when we were horrible before we usually had some hope in the farm system. Now there is no help coming and this team is all time awful.

I hope this is rock bottom. No where to go but up at that point. I can't think of a time that was close to as bad as right now. It honestly all feels hopeless. None of our young bats are looking good, even Vinnie has looked like absolute garbage over the last 20+ days and is now under an .800 OPS. Our pitching is even worse and everyone looks terrible. Our minors aren't good. It all sucks. Dayton really ****ed this franchise with his terrible horrible decisions.

We are going to suck for at least a decade. Embrace the suck.

I'll only embrace the suck if we have a new dowtown ballpark and entertainment district! That's the only thing I can think of that would make me really enjoy baseball. Please save us John Sherman!!!

Who would you rather see be good out of the Royals and Sporting KC?

Well, one is a team in a legitimate major league that features players at the pinnacle of their ability.

The other is in like the 8th best league in the world, whose main contribution to the sport is serving as a safe landing spot and final payday for formerly great actual major league level players.

The Royals might be (insert name of bad Premier League/Bundisliga/etc. team here), but Sporting KC is the equivalent of the ****ing KC Monarch or KC Mavericks.

It has to be, and any contest between some other time in their history has the ultimate tie breaker for this team: the draft lottery. We can't even expect a guaranteed #1 or #2 pick next year and follow along with next year's draft class. Since this is the Royals you can basically guarantee we are going to lose the draft lottery every year and drop positions. And maybe the one year we do win it, it will be the worst draft class in 20 years with no consensus top prospect. You know it's true.

2005 and 2006 was way worse. We have young talent and Salvy on the MLB roster at the moment that wasn't the case then.

Package them both and get another NFL team. Because when the Chiefs come to Kansas in 2030 I'm told Missouri Chiefs fan will no longer follow them.

But the young talent isn’t proving to take any steps forward. Did we really miss on almost all these guys?

We knew pitching would suck this year but not seeing any hitters take giant leaps forward is super crushing.

The hitting is really concerning. I was excited to see them take some huge steps forward, especially after another season with Zumwalt being in charge of hitting. Pretty much all we've gotten was a major regression with the bats; Bobby Witt Jr and Vinnie both look completely lost.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vinnie Pasquantino lands on the 10-day IL with right shoulder instability.<br><br>Edward Olivares returns from the restricted list. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1667580756221128706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

One kick in the nuts after the other.

Bob is hitting in bad luck
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Worst Luck Hitters, Last 2 Weeks<br>expected wOBA vs. actual wOBA<br><br>1) Bobby Witt Jr.<br>.399 expected, .220 actual<br><br>2) Bryce Harper<br>.402 expected, .278 actual<br><br>3) Pavin Smith<br>.378 expected, .283 actual<br> <br>4) Trea Turner<br>.374 expected, .280 actual<br><br>5) Vladimir Guerrero Jr.<br>.400…</p>&mdash; Jon Anderson (@JonPgh) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonPgh/status/1667221984059506717?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pratto has stepped up. Which is good to see. I think Vinny's been hurt longer than he has let on with him going on the DL today it makes sense. MJ has been a disappointment for sure. Massey is meh. He makes it, we scored if not no lose. Garcia is a rookie.

I still think some of the bats will come around. Hell they are all 23 and 24. It's not like Gordon, Moose, Salvy, Hosmer and all of them just came out of the gate as bad asses at that age either. And the team's timeline of 2025 seems reasonable just knowing the average age of hitting your prime is 26.

Really hope the shoulder was what caused Vinnie's recent snide. Just hasn't been the player he was the last 60 Abs

One big difference there is that Butler and Gordon were both elite prospects at that point. In 2006 both were top 30 prospects. So there was at least some hope for the future. You are probably right the actual major league team was worse but the minors are much more in favor of 2005-2006.

Flips on to see that Singer has thrown 97 pitches in 4 1/3 LMAO

Singer back to being a two pitch pitcher

So, wife says “Happy Father’s Day early” I’m going to get you Royals tickets at Orioles for today. I thought about it, and said let’s skip spending 2 hours in the car and 3 more hours watching shitty baseball. I’ll work on trimming trees instead. It was a good decision.

But Pratto is striking out 35 percent of the time, same as last year. Unsustainable BABIP.

More liners, though. But yeah I share your sentiment generally.

Dairon Blanco is seriously on pace to make a run at 100 SB. Tonight is Omaha's 60th game of the year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dairon Blanco set the Storm Chasers record for stolen bases last season with 45...<br><br>HE JUST STOLE HIS 46TH BASE THIS SEASON ON JUNE 10TH! <a href="https://t.co/eT1qzrWCRQ">pic.twitter.com/eT1qzrWCRQ</a></p>&mdash; Omaha Storm Chasers (@OMAStormChasers) <a href="https://twitter.com/OMAStormChasers/status/1667695674681442304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Any time spent not watching this team is a very good decision. Yard work has real benefit to your life

This is fun. Getting picked apart by Ryan O'Hearn. 6 plate appearances and he's been on base 6 times in the series.

another great outing for the Nando Mayer two headed monster

This team needs a Charlie Lau....

Caught a couple innings

Waters takes a bad angle on a short fly ball allowing a runner to tag

Oliveras slides wide on a stolen base attempt and gets punched out on a tag to his back foot...right before Garcia singles to left a pitch or 2 later

These guys just really suck at everything

And Ryan O'Hearn homers....

O’Hearn already planning his tweet to Royals twitter after the game.

Getting dumped by the Royals is the best thing that ever happened to him.

I was literally about to post the only thing that'd be more fitting is O'Hearn ends this one by hitting one out into the street and he basically did it except for that fence post that stopped the ball. I know it's a limited sample size but he just looks like a different player. He's in no way a star but he looks like a functional bench player.

Just way too much sloppiness and bad baseball right now.

They're awful. Pratto is my least favorite player possibly ever

This franchise is just absolutely pathetic.

We cant draft or sign free agents. Our only option is to try to flip some pieces
This franchise is trying to compete with one hand tied behind their back

We need help...where is it gonna come from?

Welp, gonna run over to xvideos and watch something more enjoyable like cartel chainsaw beheadings.

****ing loser franchise. Move to some other city and make them sad already you ****ing bums

Banning of the shift is the best thing that ever happened to him. I predicted he would have a career year due to the ban.

Haven’t drafted well at all, haven’t found anyone in IFA in forever, haven’t added much through trades due to a refusal to ever trade anyone of significance, and no money to spend in FA. Add in poor leadership, poor coaching at most levels within the organization, and a shit owner and it’s really no surprise at all how bad they are. Royals are the worst run organization in all of baseball.

The funniest part is the Royals are on pace to have the worst season since the 2003 Tigers and one of the 5 worst seasons in baseball history...yet they aren't even the worst team this season. The Royals can't even suck properly.

They're only 2 games back from the worst record in baseball.

Sometimes its nobody's fault. Sometimes guys just end up sucking

Its all on Sherman...he retained Piccolo who made some bad moves

That's what happens when guys get away from this loser franchise you love so much.

A's have won 5 in a row. Hope they pass us soon. I want this loser franchise to get more national attention for how pathetic they are. Maybe then some things will change.

I mean, the ineptitude dates back to even before the world series teams. That’s nearly a decade of a complete breakdown in talent acquisition and development. I’d say you can pretty easily lay the blame at the feet of Dayton Moore and Lonnie Goldberg.

Isn't remotely close to Piccolo's fault and not really Sherman's fault. They could have hired the best baseball mind of the generation and this team would still be just as bad.

Yeah this is like 99% on Dayton Moore. He was the guy responsible for running the team, making acquisitions, and hiring people to develop the talent. This mess couldn't be close to cleaned up in one off-season and will take a miracle to be competitive in the next couple of years.

Well the odds of getting the worst pick are equal for the bottom 3 teams, so we're doing all right.

JJ Piccolo was with Moore in Atlanta and came here with him..he was trained how to be a GM by Dayton Moore for nearly 2 decades with his job changes and promotions.

He's not going to be 100% Dayton Moore but that influence will always be there so it's not going to be anything close to drastic change. It's likely a big reason hardly anyone was let go and by and large it's the same organization.

I was fine giving JJ a shot and still am, but it won't surprise me if he is basically the same exact dude that Dayton was.

With all the excitement in that Orioles series, I'm not sure we got to talk about the Royals helping to set either record today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gunnar Henderson&#39;s 462-foot Eutaw Street homer, which hit the street then hit the warehouse, is the longest homer to reach Eutaw Street in the history of Camden Yards <a href="https://t.co/i1dG1JQfaH">pic.twitter.com/i1dG1JQfaH</a></p>&mdash; Andy Kostka (@afkostka) <a href="https://twitter.com/afkostka/status/1667985225446555650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladies and gentlemen, Gunnar Henderson. �� <a href="https://t.co/8O0sXdDKz4">pic.twitter.com/8O0sXdDKz4</a></p>&mdash; MLB (@MLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1667983536404439041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

At this point, it is what it is. Salvy deserves better. Probably best to trade him after the season and give us the rest of this season to enjoy him. If the offer is compelling enough - he can go to a real contender who needs another C, who is open to playing him there in the playoffs and dh the other days, I'm cool with that. I'm lucky got to watch 3 Royal world series and we won 2 of them but this team needs to die.

Man - it is HARD to hit a breaking ball that far.

Usually hitting a bomb like that requires the velocity from the incoming pitch to get turned around to carry like that. But on a hanging breaker at 86, Henderson had to provide essentially all the energy.

That ball was vaporized. Damn.

He should be fired along with the cosch after the season. Start all the way over

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have signed infielders Matt Beaty and Jermaine Palacios to minor league contracts.<br><br>Both will report and be active with <a href="https://twitter.com/OMAStormChasers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OMAStormChasers</a> this week. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Raising Royals (@KCRoyalsPD) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCRoyalsPD/status/1668287298520088587?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JBJ is out, Blanco is in. Rave back fills in AAA. Curious to see if potentially Javier Vaz goes to AA and Peyton Wilson gets some more time in CF. Interesting day ahead.</p>&mdash; Royals Farm Report (@RoyalsFarm) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoyalsFarm/status/1668293922840526848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean they shouldn't be "this" bad they do a ton of boneheaded things that don't make any sense but no matter what changes today they're gonna be pretty bad.

I think it's a bigger indictment of all of the fails they are experiencing with guys recently drafted.

Do they need a housecleaning? Yes
Do they need to start over? Yes
Should that involve maybe trading some guys people don't think are tradeable? yes


I don't personally think ownership has the stomach to literally tear it all down personally.

If you trade Salvy, you will lose most of the fans that haven't already checked out. It might be the best thing for the team in the long run. The problem that I have is I believe the 2014/2015 success was more a blind hog finding an acorn than someone actually making a good decision.

I will listen and watch them however my expectations are very very low. It's more fun to make jokes about them that to expect anything other than failure.

Trading Salvy on his wishes or for a decent return is quite a bit different than a salary dump. If it's the latter I'm pretty sure the good will towards the team would become non-existent.

You have to also believe they can make a good trade and put young players in a system that can actually develop them..

You also have to seriously question if a team that is getting ready to want to place a stadium vote on a ballot is going to get that ok from ownership.

I think most fans are fairly ignorant and won’t know the difference, they’ll be pissed either way even if it’s to bring in young talent and isn’t a salary dump.

Have you seen the stadium? Most people already don't give a **** as it is. When teams lose no one cares.

People obviously aren't flocking to the ballpark to watch Salvy. I think the moajority of the fans, those that are staying away out of disgust, are willing to tarde a 32 yr old catcher if it helps make the team not-historically-futile.

The other issue that comes out of this...if a house cleaning is done, anyone that was supposed to be a big time player is traded, Salvy is traded, JJ/Quartraro lose jobs.

It makes Sherman look like he has no ****ing clue what he's doing.

Totally ignorant question: who is ultimately responsible for minor league development?

That's the GM, right?

I just don't see how JJ survives this season. I'm not sure Quatraro gets blamed or if he's really had much of a chance with these guys, but I could see a scenario where Sherman recognizes how low things are and just rage-fires everyone.

Def the GM, but if JJ gets fired, then Sherman really had no interest in giving him a shot. A GM can't change the entire minor league system in half of a season. He hasnt even had his first draft as GM really. You can't place the blame on JJ and Sherman already did his rage firing in getting rid of Dayton and the coaching staff.

No, if Salvy gets traded, then that's what he wanted to happen because he has a no-trade clause because of how long he's been with the team. No one shows up, so the reward is higher than the risk.

This was always the problem when promoting from within with an organization that isn't in a good spot. He kept basically everyone, ****in Lonnie Goldberg is still here.

So without doing a total house cleaning, results don't change etc...if you decide you want that a year later now if you do that, you as an owner look like you have no ****ing clue what you are doing. It makes the organization as a whole looking inept at a time they are asking for stadium money.

If you wanted the full house cleaning it should have been when Moore was fired because now it looks way worse like you are just grasping at straws.

The blame I place is simple, he retained basically the entire front office that Moore hired. They didn't go outside the organization for new voices anywhere, including assistant GM. That is a real problem, they kept the same echo chamber and thought replacing a GM with an in house candidate and having him change the manager and pitching coach would get it done.

That is short sighted as ****.

John Sherman should shave his bundle of sticksgy white mustache off then sell the team.

He ain't selling the team till he gets that new stadium so he can double his money.

I hope they put it in Clay county. They should be forced to play in Claycomo for being such failures.

If that actually happens JE Dunn is gonna be ****ing pissed at Sherman, they joined his ownership group supplying quite alot of money with the promise they'd be building that stadium on JE Dunn owned lands...

Call it what you want, but you can't place the blame on the guy that's been in charge for half a year. Sherman clearly thought that Dayton was dabbling in basically everything to the point that he thought it was a big enough problem to get rid of him and allow basically everyone else to stay. Piccolo easily switched to a more analytic approach and it takes time to see any type of results. Half a year isn't going to lead to anything substantial and Sherman will give him at least a couple of years to right the ship. It's frustrating, but like I said, you can't blame the guy that's been in charge for half a year and hasn't even had his first draft.

Anyone who thought this year was going to good is an idiot. We had to see if the young kids had anything to contribute. I'm not sure how people don't realize this point. So far they haven't shown much and so now people are going to blame JJ for the shitty results? It doesn't make sense. Sure he was in the organization with the last idiot, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is an idiot. I mean maybe he is the same as DM, but I can't say that for sure yet and since Sherman didn't fire JJ, then we kinda have to give him some time. You think any GM worth a shit is gonna wanna come to this shitty franchise after we just canned another GM after just one year?

Uh you are being really nice when you say "anyone that thought they'd be good" like not expecting them to have one of the 5 worst years in the history of baseball is asking to much or something.

You wanna blame the current guys for something..
Bobby Witt Jr has taken a step back
MJ Melendez has taken a step back
Brady Singer has taken 5 steps back

Minor league development looks about as terrible as it could possibly look.

When you have 2 winning seasons in the entire tenure of a GM and your solution is to promote is right hand man and keep everyone else in place, tell me how that works?

Sherman clearly thought Dayton was the problem and he clearly knew the dynamics of the relationship. You can't blame a guy that's been in charge for 6 months for any regression or minor league development. That's just stupid as shit. You're clearly looking for reasons to place blame on JJ, but like I keep saying, half a year isn't enough time to judge anything at all.

Actually no, I blame the organization for not wanting to actually spend money to hire a real GM. We all know what JJ Piccollo is and you know what about 80% of what you'll get with him is.

Not cleaning house, firing a handful of people and keeping everyone else is a failure of ownership. And the fact that they are significantly worse, probably in the top 5 list for worst seasons in the history of baseball so far, is a pretty serious indictment of that.

Looks like it's Dairon Blanco time. I was wondering when they'd call him up he's been doing well in AAA.