Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18037605)

I still say the reasons he might succeed translate just as well to OT as they do to OG.

And the reasons he failed at OT (hand-placement and functional strength, IMO) are just as big a problem at OG as they are at OT.

He was just asked to do too much, too soon playing OT. It isn't that he translates better to Guard than Tackle. It's that he's really damn raw and Guard is easier.

I really hope we don't give up on him at OT.

And I'd also caution against just assuming he'll lock down the OG job. He may STILL not be ready to start.

And if that's the case, I'd guess that Morris or even Nourzad get a look at the position ahead of Caliendo.

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 18037545)

I'd argue that Donovan Smith DID in fact replace OBJ just fine and it was the 2024 off season that Veach didn't do enough.

OBJ should not even be talked about. Keeping Donovan Smith on for 1 more year should be the conversation.

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18037642)

I actually tend to agree about not giving up on him as an OT. Maybe you play him next to Moore for a year or two and then see where he is and he potentially takes over that spot if Moore doesn't pan out, or ends up asking for too much cash on his extension.

I really don't think anything is set in stone yet, because like you said, I really don't think they even know what they for sure have yet.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 18042485)

So what's the deal we get this dude for relatively cheap for a LT and also draft a LT?

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 18042485)

So what's the deal we get this dude for relatively cheap for a LT and also draft a LT?

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 18042509)

It's not just Left Tackle. You are also trying to get RT and LG figured out for the long haul. Jawaan Taylor will be gone from the RT spot next year. Left Guard is not 100% settled. Hoping Kingsley can do it, but what if he's a bust? If you get lucky and Simmons/Moore are both pretty solid players, maybe you have at least helped settle a couple of spots in the OL room.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 18042485)

So what's the deal we get this dude for relatively cheap for a LT and also draft a LT?

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18042683)

I've thought all along they drafted Moore as a bit of a hedge against Simmons just in case they actually were able to draft him. Which they were.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18042687)

The good ole 21mil guaranteed hedge.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18042687)

The good ole 21mil guaranteed hedge.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18042688)

To be sure that Mahomes stays upright? A steal.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18042688)

To be sure that Mahomes stays upright? A steal.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18042709)

Using the hedge logic a better hedge would be Cam Robinson who has proven to be solid over a whole season across multiple seasons and who cost almost $10mil less.