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DeezNutz 06-04-2014 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10669497)
That made me want to puke. Please hire Farhan Zaidi as our next GM and send Dayton packing his ****ing bags. I hate that outdated asswipe.
Yep. Bitter pill that article...

Ceej 06-04-2014 08:45 AM
Can't wait to watch the Royals score three runs in the next two games.

CaliforniaChief 06-04-2014 08:47 AM
This is what ownership needs to get:

We aren't a hitting coach or even a manager away from becoming good. It's a systemic failure from scouting to drafting to development to coaching to management to on-field play.

Unfortunately, the last 8 years will most likely add up to nothing, and an organizational reset button must be pushed.

But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.

Winning 4/6 on the road against good teams was nice, but I need to see a lot more before I buy into this stuff.

DeezNutz 06-04-2014 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10669669)
This is what ownership needs to get:

We aren't a hitting coach or even a manager away from becoming good. It's a systemic failure from scouting to drafting to development to coaching to management to on-field play.

Unfortunately, the last 8 years will most likely add up to nothing, and an organizational reset button must be pushed.

But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.

Winning 4/6 on the road against good teams was nice, but I need to see a lot more before I buy into this stuff.
Outstanding post. Couldn't agree more.

ChiTown 06-04-2014 09:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10669669)
This is what ownership needs to get:

We aren't a hitting coach or even a manager away from becoming good. It's a systemic failure from scouting to drafting to development to coaching to management to on-field play.

Unfortunately, the last 8 years will most likely add up to nothing, and an organizational reset button must be pushed.

But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.

Winning 4/6 on the road against good teams was nice, but I need to see a lot more before I buy into this stuff.
I love you.....

Why Not? 06-04-2014 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10669596)
Oh yeah, God, I miss the days when the Star had good sports writers.
This. Say what you will about Whitlock but when he and Poz wrote for the star it was awesome.

Archie F. Swin 06-04-2014 09:50 AM
I still think 2013 is our yea........






























....shit

okcchief 06-04-2014 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10669669)
This is what ownership needs to get:

We aren't a hitting coach or even a manager away from becoming good. It's a systemic failure from scouting to drafting to development to coaching to management to on-field play.

Unfortunately, the last 8 years will most likely add up to nothing, and an organizational reset button must be pushed.

But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.

Winning 4/6 on the road against good teams was nice, but I need to see a lot more before I buy into this stuff.
this

DeepSouth 06-04-2014 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10669655)
You need to win maybe a couple more than that but for the most part that is pretty close, that would put you at a 88 win season.
Over a full season of 162 games, win half of the games on the road, that's 40. Win 2/3 of the home games, that's 53-54 depending how you round. That's 93 -94 wins for the season.

CaliforniaChief 06-04-2014 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10669817)
Over a full season of 162 games, win half of the games on the road, that's 40. Win 2/3 of the home games, that's 53-54 depending how you round. That's 93 -94 wins for the season.
Minus the 3 games we lost to the Houston Astros at the K.

DaWolf 06-04-2014 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10669669)
But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.
Agreed. From what I can tell that's one of the big issues with this regime, with Dayton continuing to pull on and refer to how they did it with the Braves, hiring people who worked with the Braves and Cox, etc. Obviously what the Braves did was not replicated here in any way, shape, or form...

Three7s 06-04-2014 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10669740)
I still think 2013 is our yea........





























....shit
Our time?

SPATCH 06-04-2014 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10669669)
This is what ownership needs to get:

We aren't a hitting coach or even a manager away from becoming good. It's a systemic failure from scouting to drafting to development to coaching to management to on-field play.

Unfortunately, the last 8 years will most likely add up to nothing, and an organizational reset button must be pushed.

But a word of caution goes with this as well. Zaidi looks like a great candidate, and I think there are others as well. But as we saw with the Chiefs, replicating another team's "way" or "methods" doesn't necessarily guarantee success, either.

Winning 4/6 on the road against good teams was nice, but I need to see a lot more before I buy into this stuff.
Dale Sveum

ChiefsCountry 06-04-2014 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10669878)
Agreed. From what I can tell that's one of the big issues with this regime, with Dayton continuing to pull on and refer to how they did it with the Braves, hiring people who worked with the Braves and Cox, etc. Obviously what the Braves did was not replicated here in any way, shape, or form...
Ironically the Braves way came from the Royals Way. Just haven't had that cycle circle back around.

Royals essentially need to find their Carl/Marty combo.

duncan_idaho 06-04-2014 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10669933)
Ironically the Braves way came from the Royals Way. Just haven't had that cycle circle back around.

Royals essentially need to find their Carl/Marty combo.
I think what's left out of the "Braves way" equation is that the Braves didn't just rely on young kids from their system. Yes, there were a lot of those.

But the Braves also signed Sid Bream and Terry Pendleton as free agents to help supplement the young position talent. They brought in John Smoltz via a very shrewd (and lucky - was done before Schuerholz got there) trade. And they made good acquisitions/signings as time went on (Fred McGriff... Greg Maddux... etc).


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