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Sorter 01-18-2016 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12037154)
How the hell did that judge give Cruz 4 and 5?

I could understand r4 (like I can understand Machida winning the first Shogun fight) but I have no idea how a judge could give r5 to Cruz.


These ****ing judges are terrible.

jd1020 01-18-2016 12:08 AM

That fight seems to throw that whole you have to beat the champ to take the belt thing right out the window. I wanted Cruz to win but I just couldn't see Cruz winning. Didn't think he did enough. Especially later to end the fight. 49-46 in favor of both fighters? Interesting....

alnorth 01-18-2016 12:08 AM

I had 3 clearly for Cruz, 4 clearly for TJ, and I won't argue with 1, 2, or 5. Even within those very lenient and forgiving boundaries, two of the judges were still totally ****ing bonkers.

New World Order 01-18-2016 12:11 AM

I don't think I've ever seen a split decision where two cards were 49-46.

GloryDayz 01-18-2016 12:11 AM

I still don't get it, it makes me wonder what instructions the judges get when asked to judge a fight. Evidently many of us are looking at something different than the judges are judging by.

New World Order 01-18-2016 12:12 AM

I had TJ 3-2, but I could also see it going 3-2 Cruz.

alnorth 01-18-2016 12:24 AM

Cruz's leg wasn't actually hurt by Dillashaw's kicks. He has plantar fasciitis, and hasn't kicked in camp for months.

GloryDayz 01-18-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12037175)
Cruz's leg wasn't actually hurt by Dillashaw's kicks. He has plantar fasciitis, and hasn't kicked in camp for months.

I'd still love to understand what the judges saw that we didn't. I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just interested in understanding what they think matters and what they think matters less.

While I'm not lost on the art of fighting (years of wrestling and coaching wrestling), I still think that "backing up" needs to be factored in. While the opposite of riding time in wrestling (which I hate BTW), I think the amount of time a fighter spends backing-up should count against them. Much akin to fleeing does. So while I help no favor for either of the two, the constant backing-up "technique" will always lead me to not like that person as much.

What I think Cruz did do very well was take TJ down. So it's not like I didn't see him doing well, he was awesome at the takedown, but he backed-up so much I thought he was over the line and fleeing. And being the larger fighter, it's compounded a bit.

Anyway, congrats to Cruz, he evidently did some things the judges liked, and that's all that matters when the fight goes the distance.

alnorth 01-18-2016 01:04 PM

This is hilarious

https://streamable.com/gs73

The guy who asked the question was Duane Ludwig, who is Dillashaw's coach. Thats why Dana smirked and the room laughed when he said "well, Mr. member of the media"

GloryDayz 01-18-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 12037685)
This is hilarious

https://streamable.com/gs73

The guy who asked the question was Duane Ludwig, who is Dillashaw's coach. Thats why Dana smirked and the room laughed when he said "well, Mr. member of the media"

Pulling a move like that (unless planned and staged), it sounds like the TJ camp isn't too happy with the decision.

alnorth 01-21-2016 11:37 AM

In the first 20 days of 2016, USADA has conducted 120 tests on UFC athletes

Saul Good 01-21-2016 11:41 AM

Have any of the women ever been busted?

alnorth 01-21-2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12042683)
Have any of the women ever been busted?

With the UFC? The only time I ever heard was someone tested positive for MJ in competition in Texas, but that doesn't really count because it was positive under the absurdly strict, low threshold for a positive test that Texas uses, but would not have been a positive test in NV or under USADA.

alnorth 01-25-2016 03:17 PM

Well, this is an unmitigated God Damn disaster. Werdum is out of UFC 196 due to injury. the UFC lost their super bowl weekend heavyweight championship fight less than 2 weeks before the event.

edit: lol, Werdum says he hurt both his foot and his back. 8 weeks ago, he posted this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/-dDgx8JJSc/

alnorth 01-26-2016 03:42 PM

UFC 196 has been moved to FS1. Not sure yet if Hendricks is going to headline it.

Without the HW title fight, that was going to be an awful PPV card, but by the standards of free TV, thats a pretty good card.

edit: Hendricks-Wonderboy is the main event


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