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Titty Meat 09-14-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7908431)
the good thing is, we never adjusted



i like consistency when it leads to humiliation...


Fat Man to Haley: "We're getting our brains beat in...oh well, nothing you can do about it"


Haley to Fat Man: "True...true....like when I was finger banging this broad sitting next to my wife..."


Ref to Haley: "Games over coach....you're the only person left on the field"


LMAO

BossChief 09-14-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7908662)
That potential scenario brings back fond memories of 2008, when we got to watch the terrific trio of Huard, Croyle and Thigpen.

I'm in the minority on this one I know, but "not Matt Cassel" is not quite enough of a qualifier for me to want to see either of the other guys starting at this point.

How much worse can a qb play?

I came into the season thinking I wouldnt talk about starting Stanzi at all because he doesn't know the playbook at all and that would be unfair to the kid.

That is gonna end soon if Cassel doesn't pull his head out of his ass.

Dick Stanzi with 1/3 of the playbook > Matt Cassel with all of it

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 02:57 PM

We didn't adjust on offense OR defense.

We had 170 yards of offense in the first half.

We had 60 in the second half.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7908387)
Hali's play is what got Hali's stats you ****ing idiot. Dorsey isn't fit to sniff Hali's jock, never has been and absolutely never will.

As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

keg in kc 09-14-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7908728)
How much worse can a qb play?

Don't ever ask that question. You might actually get your answer.

lcarus 09-14-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 7908690)
Just ****ing dumb plain and simple.

Dorsey is and will beast.

I'm not saying Dorsey is a bad player. I'll just leave it at that.

bevischief 09-14-2011 03:17 PM

WTF did the coaching staff do during the lockout?... It is not showing at this point like much.

CupidStunt 09-14-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7908743)
As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

:spock:

Hali shits all over Dorsey. I mean, Dorsey is not in the same GALAXY as Hali as a player. I realize people want to rationalize over another bust and a player we all WANTED to be great, who we thought would be great, but let's cut down on the stupid here. At his absolute best Dorsey's a fat biotch who can just about absorb a double-team without his knees buckling, while Hali can take over and at times completely dominate a game.

It's not about apples and oranges, it's about people's refusal to accept that Dorsey is not remotely close to anchoring the DL, all because he was supposed to and they liked him coming out. It's no different to those who used to crap all over Hali while he was developing because they didn't like the pick, despite the fact that Hali was and always has been way more advanced than Dorsey is and at this point likely ever will be.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7908813)
Hali shits all over Dorsey. I mean, Dorsey is not in the same GALAXY as Hali as a player.

As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league. As a pass rusher, Hali is one of the best in the league. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

BigRock 09-14-2011 03:32 PM

Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou adjustments, Romeo?

CupidStunt 09-14-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7908823)
As a run defender Dorsey is one of the best in the league.

No, he's not remotely one of the best in the league. Stop believing EVERYTHING that shitty website feeds you, dude. Have you seen some of the trash atop its rankings?

Just because Dorsey's playing the run on 3rd-and-15 against a 4-wide set, doesn't mean he's elite at it.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 03:39 PM

:)

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1. Led the league in tackles for 3-4 ends
2. Rated by PFF as one of the best ends against the run.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4661/player?r=1

Dorsey's 937 snaps were more than any other 3-4 defensive end in the NFL, and he graded out as a top-five run-stopper in Pro Football Focus' ratings.


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11) What constitutes a “stop” or “offensive failure?”

It’s when an offense fails to get:

40 percent of the required yards for another first down on first down
60 percent of the required yards for a first down on second down
A first down on third or fourth down
Players who got 40 or more stops last season:

Kyle Williams
Ndakamong Suh
Kenyon Coleman
Justin Smith
Glenn Dorsey

DeMarcus Ware
James Harrison
Anthony Spencer
Cameron Wake

Terrell Suggs
Trent Cole
Justin Tuck
Charles Johnson
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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7908859)
No, he's not remotely one of the best in the league.

Do you even watch him play? He was making plays like this constantly last year.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/RAMS/drsey.gif

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2011 03:44 PM

Eventually people will understand that Romeo was in no way responsible for the Patriots' success. He's worthless.

CupidStunt 09-14-2011 04:07 PM

Is that honestly the best you've got? I mean, REALLY? Because that's ****ing embarrassing. A fluke play against a rookie where he got destroyed at the POA and managed to make an asissted clean-up tackle after the RB runs right into him.

Penetration? Honestly, fella. Shoot me a PM and I'll help you understand football if you like. Getting put on your knees by a rook isn't good, for lesson 1.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7909015)
Is that honestly the best you've got? I mean, REALLY? Because that's ****ing embarrassing. A fluke play against a rookie where he got destroyed at the POA and managed to make an asissted clean-up tackle after the RB runs right into him.

Penetration? Honestly, fella. Shoot me a PM and I'll help you understand football if you like. Getting put on your knees by a rook isn't good, for lesson 1.

If every defensive lineman on the Chiefs did that on every running play we'd lead the league in run defense

Dorsey was dominating at the POA and getting off blocks and making tackles all year long, and that's why he got respect.


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