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BossChief 03-19-2012 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8470795)
I'm with you BossChief. I think Tannehill has at least as much talent as Dalton did a year ago, and Dalton looks like he will do well in Cincy...with very marginal talent around him. I don't think Tannehill would be a bad pick at all where the Chiefs are picking.

TBH Stanzi has as much talent as Dalton. That's not just an Iowa fan telling you that, either. Look up Mayock or Kiper or most of the other draft guys takes on him and pretty much everybody said Stanzi was in the same class as Dalton and Ponder.

Im just tired of this team only having one option...even though we already have Stanzi I would be totally ok with making a move to grab what they might see as a legit option for a franchise quarterback to "double up" on the position...remember, we interviewed the kid at the combine.

I wonder if they will get him in for a private workout.

RealSNR 03-19-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8469453)
I would draft Foles with our second rounder.

You know what would be real nice?

Richardson drops to 11 and the Bengals offer their #17 pick and their second rounder to move up to take him.

We take Konz or Decastro at 17 and Foles with our original second rounder and Chapman or one of the good backs that could fall to our pick.

The line is fixed and looks to be in God mode for a few years...we have a good quarterback prospect as well as a pretty good nose guard, too.

Whatdoyathink?

So what does our QB depth chart look like after we draft Foles? Are we cutting Cassel?

I know we should, but that's not what will happen.

BossChief 03-19-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8470810)
So what does our QB depth chart look like after we draft Foles? Are we cutting Cassel?

I know we should, but that's not what will happen.

What, I'm not rude...Ill wave goodbye to Brady Quinn when he is cut.

Or

If they feel like Stanzi just inst getting the mental part of the game and that Quinn is...then you cut Stanzi.

Cassel
Tanehill
Stanzi/Quinn

Im a Chiefs fan that happens to like Stanzi...not the other way around. I just want a real quarterback and am not willing to waste 3 or 4 more years waiting forever for NEXT YEAR when an option is there THIS YEAR that is probably every bit as good as the guys that would be available to us NEXT YEAR.

If that means we have to call it on the Stanzimania, so be it.

Hell, its not out of the question to keep 4 quarterbacks, either. Shit we basically kept 2 fullbacks last year in McClain and Battle...whats the difference?

This roster is stacked...time to make a real attempt to upgrade at quarterback

Whether that is in the first with Tanehill or Foles in the second, I don't really care.

Titty Meat 03-19-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8470799)
TBH Stanzi has as much talent as Dalton. That's not just an Iowa fan telling you that, either. Look up Mayock or Kiper or most of the other draft guys takes on him and pretty much everybody said Stanzi was in the same class as Dalton and Ponder.

Im just tired of this team only having one option...even though we already have Stanzi I would be totally ok with making a move to grab what they might see as a legit option for a franchise quarterback to "double up" on the position...remember, we interviewed the kid at the combine.

I wonder if they will get him in for a private workout.

That's why 1 was a 2nd round pick the other was a 5th round pick.

RealSNR 03-19-2012 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8470818)
What, I'm not rude...Ill wave goodbye to Brady Quinn when he is cut.

Or

If they feel like Stanzi just inst getting the mental part of the game and that Quinn is...then you cut Stanzi.

Cassel
Tanehill
Stanzi/Quinn

Im a Chiefs fan that happens to like Stanzi...not the other way around. I just want a real quarterback and am not willing to waste 3 or 4 more years waiting forever for NEXT YEAR when an option is there THIS YEAR that is probably every bit as good as the guys that would be available to us NEXT YEAR.

If that means we have to call it on the Stanzimania, so be it.

Hell, its not out of the question to keep 4 quarterbacks, either. Shit we basically kept 2 fullbacks last year in McClain and Battle...whats the difference?

This roster is stacked...time to make a real attempt to upgrade at quarterback

Whether that is in the first with Tanehill or Foles in the second, I don't really care.

I'm with you on that, but I'm also not a fan of drafting project guys only to abandon their progress so quickly. They're projects. They take time. They need coaching, training camp snaps, and time on the sidelines during games finding out just how different the NFL is from the NCAA.

Personally, I don't see what others do in Foles. I like his size and athletic attributes a lot, but he's kind of like a smaller version of Brock Osweiler only with a slightly better arm. From the game footage of Arizona I just don't see the NFL throw. I see a guy with a big arm, but it's not connecting. It's not dissecting the defense. It's throwing to open guys down the field and checking down, just like Cassel. And the throws downfield aren't that impressive. He's not even close to threading needles like Luck does. Hell, he doesn't even thread needles like Kirk Cousins does. He's got a lot to work on his arm to make it more compact and accurate, and I'd rather not waste several seasons on that bullshit.

We've got a year invested in Stanzi. That's good. We're making progress there. What we SHOULD be doing is trying to find a team that would be willing to sacrifice a first round pick in next year's draft. Let's say Trent Richardson is available at 11 and the Redskins want him. We should absolutely take the Redskins' 2nd rounder this year and their 1st rounder next year plus some other draft pick. It puts us in a good position to have a QB available to us next year, and if we're still out of reach, now we have added firepower to trade up and grab a first round guy who doesn't need the bullshit coached out of him like Foles does.

Basically, I'm saying it's fine to have a project QB. It's fine to have two project QBs if you want to be thorough. It's ****ing idiocy to take a project QB and replace him with another project QB the next year, though. Either you upgrade the position, get better depth, or go fist your grandmother and wait another 40 years for a Super Bowl, because it doesn't do any good sitting around playing with yourself pretending you're doing something about the QB position when you're just keeping the status quo.

evolve27 03-19-2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 8468251)
I see the Brady Quinn signing as the perfect smokescreen to prevent anyone from thinking that they need to trade in front of us to take Tannehill.

I was thinking this

scho63 03-19-2012 03:00 AM

I think it would be a wasted pick at this point unless someone with great potential dropped into our lap.

Dave Lane 03-19-2012 04:45 AM

I'll be really happy if we pickup Lindley in the fourth or fifth round i see Lindley as having as much potential as Tannehill without taking the first round risk.

Nightfyre 03-19-2012 06:32 AM

I voted yes on hope.

whoman69 03-19-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8470908)
I voted yes on hope.

With this team?

mr. tegu 03-19-2012 08:33 AM

I voted no, but that said I would prefer Foles over Tannehil just because you can likely get him in the second round. I just don't see Tannehil as being an NFL caliber starter.

boogblaster 03-19-2012 08:38 AM

NO ... but whats up with Stanzi he has the phys .. is he really stump-dumb .....

Mr_Tomahawk 03-19-2012 08:40 AM

-Tannehill
-Foles
-Lindley

I would love if we drafted either of these guys. Have the 4 QBs compete in camp and cut the worst one. [Cassel]

Dayze 03-19-2012 08:47 AM

no way the Chiefs draft a QB.
I will eat a stick of deodorant if they do.

el borracho 03-19-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8469228)
Sorry, but Quinn has been in the league way too long to still be called a project. He is what he is, a career backup.

I don't necessarily disagree with that but I think the Chiefs disagree. I suppose we will get more insight on that from the draft and/or from preseason.


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