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Mile High Mania 03-20-2012 08:07 AM
And, I'll throw this last bit of reality out there...

The Broncos turned around with a 7-4 finish last year. Prior to that, they were 28-41 going back to 2007. They didn't totally fix everything in the second half of 2011, but they have nice pieces and still time to add via FA and the draft.

petegz28 03-20-2012 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8474882)
What actual talent does Denver have in comparison to KC? I'm not talking potential. I mean guys that have already produced better than the guys in KC at the same positions.
Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...LMAO

TheGuardian 03-20-2012 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8474891)
Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...LMAO
I'm talking about actual players on offense.

Mile High Mania 03-20-2012 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8474882)
What actual talent does Denver have in comparison to KC? I'm not talking potential. I mean guys that have already produced better than the guys in KC at the same positions.
I don't think I've ever typed that DEN > KC at all skill positions. I have stated that Denver isn't void of talent on offense or defense.

For the sake of this discussion, I'm more than happy to say that KC has the edge at talent (proven consistency).

Mile High Mania 03-20-2012 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8474891)
Denver was slightly better than KC offensively granted we had bunk QB's, a broken RB and a broken TE. KC on the other hand was much better defensively than Denver and that was with Sabby roaming the backfield...LMAO
Denver also had one of your bunk QBs and a FB that throws passes, no?

TheGuardian 03-20-2012 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8474894)
I don't think I've ever typed that DEN > KC at all skill positions. I have stated that Denver isn't void of talent on offense or defense.

For the sake of this discussion, I'm more than happy to say that KC has the edge at talent (proven consistency).
All I was getting at, thanks. :D

Rausch 03-20-2012 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8474877)
Certain QBs make others rise up and play better - Manning is one of those guys and he'll have two young WRs (Thomas and Decker) chomping at the bit to learn and do well, and they should have really good seasons.
No.

Montana, Elway, and even Farve were those types of guys.

Marino only went to one SB. There's a reason. I'd put Payed-a-ton in the same camp.

They want the game in their hands all the time.

Mile High Mania 03-20-2012 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8474898)
All I was getting at, thanks. :D
No problem... but again, sometimes what you see on paper doesn't always prove the point or get you to the end goal.

TheGuardian 03-20-2012 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8474909)
No problem... but again, sometimes what you see on paper doesn't always prove the point or get you to the end goal.
That's true. But from a stand point of a guy picking a team to go QB for that is ready made, talent wise, for a SB KC should have been a logical choice.

I personally think that he only chose Denver because of his relationship with Elway.

O.city 03-20-2012 08:47 AM
The Broncos were 1-4 running a traditional offense last year, then went 7-4 running the spread option.

Do people not remember that? They were the best rushing team in the NFL becasue they ran it damn near 50 times per game. That ain't happening again with Manning.

FRCDFED 03-20-2012 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8474730)
not worried about the donkeys. I don't believe they should be division faves based on manning personally. That team sucks.
Yeah, I already bet both of my co-workers lunch that the Chiefs would finish higher in the AFC West than Denver will.

Okie_Apparition 03-20-2012 09:00 AM
The regular season wonderdog with a team built around him

Marcellus 03-20-2012 09:05 AM
So 3 months ago Mannings career may be over, today he signs a 5 year $96MM contract with Denver.

Just seem odd to me. It doesn't add up.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2012 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8475016)
The Broncos were 1-4 running a traditional offense last year, then went 7-4 running the spread option.

Do people not remember that? They were the best rushing team in the NFL becasue they ran it damn near 50 times per game. That ain't happening again with Manning.
Not only that, but...

In the prime years of his career, he took a more talented Colts team to win 1 SuperBowl, but at 36 coming off serious neck injury is going to take a team with swiss cheese like holes to the Ship in year 1. Hilarious.

mikey23545 03-20-2012 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8474817)
So, Manning is going to account for $40M this year on the cap? :rolleyes:
No, but he kept dicking them around until all the good free agents were gone...

Thanks, Peyton!


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