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philfree 03-17-2012 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466393)
we used barely half of carr's contract to get a top 5 RT...


pioli knows contracts...have to give him that
Routt + Winston > Carr By a long shot.

Hoover 03-17-2012 07:50 PM
It was 5 years for 38 million, but Pioli had a coupon for 20 percent off.

Who knows, maybe we can afford Manning.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8466392)
That is a ****ing steal.

Winston should fire his agent.
I guess but look at it this way....

Dolphins didn't have much cap room.

Ravens re-signed McKinnie

Rams signed Wells

Redskins already spent a lot of money

Lions don't have much money

Looks like all the stars aligned.

Bowser 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
Now watch him land on PUP when training camp starts due to that ankle.

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/u...45-300x209.png

the Talking Can 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
compare that to nicks contract for a guard

f'n crazy

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
I was expecting a lot more than that. Its a good thing Winston seemed to want to play in KC.

the Talking Can 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8466402)
Routt + Winston > Carr By a long shot.
i'll eat crow and agree given our teams needs

O.city 03-17-2012 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466393)
we used barely half of carr's contract to get a top 5 RT...


pioli knows contracts...have to give him that
Not only that, but a backup solid TE, a likely true number 2 corner, and a could be good running back.


It could be a really good free agent period if all goes according.

KcMizzou 03-17-2012 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8466407)
Now watch him land on PUP when training camp starts due to that ankle.

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/u...45-300x209.png
You shut your whore mouth.

O.city 03-17-2012 07:52 PM
I bet he has alot of incentives or something.

Hoover 03-17-2012 07:52 PM
Scott probably gave Quinn 20 mil

58-4ever 03-17-2012 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8466407)
Now watch him land on PUP when training camp starts due to that ankle.

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/u...45-300x209.png
He stayedan extra day and took a physical. I doubt that happens.

milkman 03-17-2012 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8466405)
I guess but look at it this way....

Dolphins didn't have much cap room.

Ravens re-signed McKinnie

Rams signed Wells

Redskins already spent a lot of money

Lions don't have much money

Looks like all the stars aligned.
Any way you spin it, it's still a ****ing steal.

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2012 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8466407)
Now watch him land on PUP when training camp starts due to that ankle.

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/u...45-300x209.png
http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/upload.../10/booman.gif

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8466424)
Any way you spin it, it's still a ****ing steal.
Absolutely.

Bowser 03-17-2012 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 8466426)
LMAO

milkman 03-17-2012 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466408)
compare that to nicks contract for a guard

f'n crazy
Or to Grubb's deal in New Orleans.

chiefswillriseup 03-17-2012 07:55 PM
nick wright ‏ @getnickwright Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Chiefs got Eric Winston for 4yr for 22 million?!? Well I'll be damned if that aint dollar for dollar best signing of offseason in all of NFL

Bowser 03-17-2012 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8466424)
Any way you spin it, it's still a ****ing steal.
Yeah, it really is.

Pioli is a master at getting blood out of turnips with the contracts he signs.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 07:56 PM
Wonder if that's what the hold up was all about.

KcMizzou 03-17-2012 07:56 PM
Heh.

Carrington Harrison ‏ @cdotharrison

Pioli must have given Winston another 10 mil in Jack Stack gift cards that has gone unreported.

nick wright ‏ @getnickwright

Chiefs got Eric Winston for 4yr for 22 million?!? Well I'll be damned if that aint dollar for dollar best signing of offseason in all of NFL

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 07:58 PM
I can see why Pioli was a coveted guy coming from New England. I want to like the guy it's just too bad he won't get us a ****ing QB.

the Talking Can 03-17-2012 07:58 PM
this contract and charles' are borderline theft

Hammock Parties 03-17-2012 07:58 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/x3tkas.jpg

NJChiefsFan 03-17-2012 07:58 PM
Wow thats a great deal.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8466451)
I gotta give you credit Bob. You're a legend on the Orange Mane.

Bowser 03-17-2012 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466450)
this contract and charles' are borderline theft
And that's not even mentioning what we re-signed Derrick Johnson for.

philfree 03-17-2012 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8466452)
Wow thats a great deal.
No man it just keeps us to far under the cap. It's Clark's plan so he can pocket the rest!

Bowser 03-17-2012 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8466451)
This post needed that laughing evil guy from the early sci-fi flick in it.

the Talking Can 03-17-2012 08:00 PM
LMAO

wonder what the texans think seeing those numbers...they assumed he would break the bank

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2012 08:00 PM
I wonder if that isnt just the guaranteed money? 22 mil is just too damn good.

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2012 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466458)
LMAO

wonder what the texans think seeing those numbers...they assumed he would break the bank
What a great point. They must be kicking themselves in the nuts over this.

milkman 03-17-2012 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 8466459)
I wonder if that isnt just the guaranteed money? 22 mil is just too damn good.
We rarely learn the guaranteed money before the total contract dollars.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 08:03 PM
Didn't they release him so they could create more cap space to re-sign Williams?

Rain Man 03-17-2012 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 8466374)
Well you need to realize that Winston played a ton more snaps due to the fact that the texans didnt have Casell/Palko 3 and out back there...

Im willing to bet he had 100+ snaps more than Brich...

Good point. Any signing to upgrade RT is a win, of course, so I welcome Winston with open arms. Not a hug or anything, but open arms.

Quesadilla Joe 03-17-2012 08:04 PM
This was a move Scott Pioli had to make, I bet you Cassel is gonna sleep a lot easier at night! Great move Pioli!!!!!!!!!!!!

philfree 03-17-2012 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8466470)
Didn't they release him so they could create more cap space to re-sign Williams?
To re-sign their center.

Hammock Parties 03-17-2012 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8466457)
This post needed that laughing evil guy from the early sci-fi flick in it.
Or better:

http://i43.tinypic.com/mkx5hy.jpg

NJChiefsFan 03-17-2012 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8466479)
LMAO Yeah that will do.

hometeam 03-17-2012 08:07 PM
undeniably great value, this makes this signing even better.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 8466476)
This was a move Scott Pioli had to make, I bet you Cassel is gonna sleep a lot easier at night! Great move Pioli!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah enjoy Denver signing nobody while waiting for Manning to say no.

O.city 03-17-2012 08:08 PM
Best thing is, we signed this guy, and still have a shit ton of money available if we need it.



Great job Scott. Really made me look like an ass for my rant yesterday.

Titty Meat 03-17-2012 08:12 PM
Isn't Wimbley visiting?

O.city 03-17-2012 08:14 PM
If we could get Wimbley for a deal like this. HOLY MOLY>

DeezNutz 03-17-2012 08:17 PM
Wow. Pioli deserve a lot of credit for this contract. Impressive to say the least.

MIAdragon 03-17-2012 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8466521)
If we could get Wimbley for a deal like this. HOLY MOLY>
http://i.imgur.com/BDJYY.gif

Saul Good 03-17-2012 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8465950)
No points for this. Good signing, but Pioli's last ditch effort to get us a RT since he had failed by every other method. The equivalent of a 40-year old virgin ****ing a diseased 400 pound hooker.
What are all of those other methods? You can draft a player, trade for a player, or sign a free agent. Of those three methods, this one only costs us (Clark) money.

KcMizzou 03-17-2012 08:24 PM
Eric Winston ‏ @ericwinston

Thanks for the warm welcome Chiefs. Looking forward to next year and beyond.

lewdog 03-17-2012 08:24 PM
How can we get this guy on a great contract like that but someone like Manning won't even visit?

I do like this and the Hillis signing.

KCDC 03-17-2012 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8466218)
Everyone needs to take a step back on the whole "value at pick 11" crap.

I got news...no one is going to have VALUE at that position unless something drastic happens.

Guard, nose tackle, middle linebacker, safety, pass rusher. It doesn't matter what position they play. Take the guy you think is the top at his position. If that's Decastro, then fantastic. Kuechly? Great. Poe? Fine.

The point is, we had a gaping hole at right tackle that was going to FORCE us to draft a tackle at the 11th pick. Now, we are truly free to take the best available player.
This

KCDC 03-17-2012 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8466571)
Eric Winston ‏ @ericwinston

Thanks for the warm welcome Chiefs. Looking forward to next year and beyond.
I'm not on Twitter but I hope those of you that are send him some love.

O.city 03-17-2012 08:27 PM
If Decastro is there and you think he can be a 10 year all pro, take him in a heartbeat.


If he is gone, take the sickest most gifted athletic football player on the board, that isnt a workout warrior that can just make plays.

aturnis 03-17-2012 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8466458)
LMAO

wonder what the texans think seeing those numbers...they assumed he would break the bank
Remember they CUT him to make room for Meyer. He only saved them 4.5 mil against the cap, so his numbers grew just a little.

BigRock 03-17-2012 08:29 PM
Winston's contract has me worried they gave something like $15M to Quinn.

Sofa King 03-17-2012 08:30 PM
Post.


I'm now part of this thread. Go Chiefs.

milkman 03-17-2012 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8466594)
Winston's contract has me worried they gave something like $15M to Quinn.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Quinn with a contract similar to what Hillis signed, nd that would be too much.

Shogun 03-17-2012 08:36 PM
I'd assume Quinn got peanuts

Gadzooks 03-17-2012 08:37 PM
The Chargers ended up with the better backup QB.

Micjones 03-17-2012 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 8466619)
I'd assume Quinn got peanuts
I'd be surprised if he got anything more than Hillis did.

Fritz88 03-17-2012 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8466378)
ProFootballTalk ‏ @ProFootballTalk Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
T Eric Winston gets $22 million over four years from the Chiefs http://wp.me/p14QSB-1GBc
No way Clark lets go of this Coupon God.
Posted via Mobile Device

Shogun 03-17-2012 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8466623)
The Chargers ended up with the better backup QB.
Le'ron is an excellent backup QB.

Easy 6 03-17-2012 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8465876)
LMAO i truly do not care for the way she is looking at me.

Setsuna 03-17-2012 08:49 PM
It doesn't matter. Cassel will be starting. A year of his youth wasted trying to block for that embarrassment of a QB.

doomy3 03-17-2012 08:57 PM
Eric Winston - T - Chiefs
The Chiefs' contract with Eric Winston is reportedly a four-year deal worth $22 million.
Winston was asking for top-five tackle money, so it sounds like the market was unwilling to meet his demands. It's a relatively low-risk investment for a player who can come in and immediately make an impact. Winston finished as the league's No. 11 tackle by Pro Football Focus.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports Mar 17 - 10:01 PM

Hell of a deal for the Chiefs.

Okie_Apparition 03-17-2012 09:08 PM
4 years 22 million
Clark must be doing hand stands in the butler's pantry

Chiefshrink 03-17-2012 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8466635)
No way Clark lets go of this Coupon God.
Posted via Mobile Device

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Funny as shit !!!!

Sofa King 03-17-2012 09:16 PM
how the hell did Scott get him for so cheap! lol

Way to go Scott. Way to go.

DeezNutz 03-17-2012 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8466340)
Just saw some post from some Texan fans that said he was great in run blocking but not so much against the pass. So I thought I'd check it out.

I see your great with words.
This was a "not so fast my friend" picture.

BigRedChief 03-17-2012 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8466540)
Wow. Pioli deserve a lot of credit for this contract. Impressive to say the least.
He wanted LT FA money. Sure the market never materialized for that kind of money. But, Pioli deserves a lot of credit for this signing. 5 years for 22 million. thats well below what anyone would think Winston would sign for.

I think Jack Stack BBQ should get part credit for the signing.

Strongside 03-17-2012 09:26 PM
I just got kicked out of a bar in Westport for punching a guy in the face that flipped off my wife. I'd been drinking since noon and it ruined my night...then Pioli goes and does something like this...and totally redeems himself.

Okie_Apparition 03-17-2012 09:28 PM
Better stay out of the Chicago bars Brandon
idiot

KcMizzou 03-17-2012 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8466784)
Better stay out of the Chicago bars Brandon
idiot
What

Canofbier 03-17-2012 09:38 PM
What a deal! I was expecting us to have to pay much, much more for his services. Maybe the other teams dropping out near the end made him cheaper?

Wallcrawler 03-17-2012 09:44 PM
Im guessing the ankle played a bigger role in these negotiations than expected. How the 11th best tackle in the league doesnt get offered more money is not easily explained otherwise.

Either he REALLY wanted to be in KC, or there just wasnt a better offer out there.

Its going to be great to get back to seeing Chiefs teams with a great offensive line. It was their trademark for so many years, and then it just crumbled.

Okie_Apparition 03-17-2012 09:47 PM
I thought he was Brandon Marshall

TEX 03-17-2012 09:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8466767)
how the hell did Scott get him for so cheap! lol

Way to go Scott. Way to go.


Signing bonus? Myers, the Texans Pro Bowl Center just signd a 4 year $25 million deal and their Guard, (forgot his mname) who they lost, signed with Oakland for 4 years $20 million so it's on par with other good lineman. It's a good deal for both.

Frankie 03-17-2012 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8466293)
Quinn won't stop them from drafting Tannehill if they really think that he is a franchise type QB. They can carry 4 QB's for 1 year or just cut Quinn.
Long as they don't cut Stanzi over Quinn. Quinn might be to Romeo what Cassel is to Pioli.

Fairplay 03-17-2012 10:00 PM
In Pioli i trust. :hail:

Frankie 03-17-2012 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8466313)
If they can find a partner, definitely. I don't see a slam dunk @ 11 and this team needs better depth in the worst way. More picks would help.
We might even be in a position to trade down for 2013 picks which we can then use to trade up for a franchise QB. I don't say that's what's gonna go down, but if it does we can now do it.

ToxSocks 03-17-2012 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8466699)
Eric Winston - T - Chiefs
The Chiefs' contract with Eric Winston is reportedly a four-year deal worth $22 million.
Winston was asking for top-five tackle money, so it sounds like the market was unwilling to meet his demands. It's a relatively low-risk investment for a player who can come in and immediately make an impact. Winston finished as the league's No. 11 tackle by Pro Football Focus.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports Mar 17 - 10:01 PM

Hell of a deal for the Chiefs.
Still the Cheaps i see.


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