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BigCatDaddy 04-28-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10590792)
I really enjoyed that whole card, Jim Miller is a beast, Luke Rockhhold is going to blast Vitor if Vitor can work out his drug test issues and Rumble was just a freaking monster.


On another note WTF is Andrei Arlovski even doing back in the UFC? He is past it and needs to hang em up

Eh, you never know. I thought guys like Vitor and Lawler were done when the UFC brought them back. He just needs to get involved in exciting fights. I haven't watched him recently but he got the boot before because he was losing boring fights. You can lose some, but if you make it entertaining you'll stick around.

New World Order 04-28-2014 01:26 PM

Daniel Cormier is going to ragdoll Jon Jones. We all saw what Gus did to Jones early in the fight, now imagine an olympic wrestler who ragdolled heavyweight fighters.

Take out a second mortgage and put it on Cormier.

New World Order 04-28-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10590792)
I really enjoyed that whole card, Jim Miller is a beast, Luke Rockhhold is going to blast Vitor if Vitor can work out his drug test issues and Rumble was just a freaking monster.


On another note WTF is Andrei Arlovski even doing back in the UFC? He is past it and needs to hang em up



He better have his custom vampire mouthguard

raybec 4 04-28-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10590889)
Eh, you never know. I thought guys like Vitor and Lawler were done when the UFC brought them back. He just needs to get involved in exciting fights. I haven't watched him recently but he got the boot before because he was losing boring fights. You can lose some, but if you make it entertaining you'll stick around.

He's had a habit of getting knocked out in glorious fashion lately

BigCatDaddy 04-28-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10590925)
He's had a habit of getting knocked out in glorious fashion lately

I though he was like 6-1 in his last 7 fights?

Edit. Yeah he's 6-1 in his last 7 fights with his only loss to Rumble by decision which doesn't look so bad at the moment.

raybec 4 04-28-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10590933)
I though he was like 6-1 in his last 7 fights?

Edit. Yeah he's 6-1 in his last 7 fights with his only loss to Rumble by decision which doesn't look so bad at the moment.

He is, the problem is the only guy he's beaten that has any name recognition is Mike Kyle. Rumble Johnson man handled him in his loss and he wasn't representing very well prior to that streak. He got KO'd by several guys in Strikeforce and Affliction but that's been 3 or 4 years ago now

BigCatDaddy 04-28-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10590952)
He is, the problem is the only guy he's beaten that has any name recognition is Mike Kyle. Rumble Johnson man handled him in his loss and he wasn't representing very well prior to that streak. He got KO'd by several guys in Strikeforce and Affliction but that's been 3 or 4 years ago now

That's fine. I'd rather see a great KO then one of those boring decisions he was losing at the end of his UFC run.

alnorth 04-28-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10590901)
Daniel Cormier is going to ragdoll Jon Jones. We all saw what Gus did to Jones early in the fight, now imagine an olympic wrestler who ragdolled heavyweight fighters.

Take out a second mortgage and put it on Cormier.

I'm not betting a 2nd mortgage on anyone vs Jon Jones right now. The guy has never actually been beaten in his career. (Only loss was a DQ) I might be willing to bet against him on the Gus rematch, but it would have to be a reasonable amount of money that I'm willing to lose.

raybec 4 04-28-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10590959)
That's fine. I'd rather see a great KO then one of those boring decisions he was losing at the end of his UFC run.

I agree, I also don't think Schaub is going to be the guy to decide whether or not he should stay.

alnorth 04-28-2014 03:57 PM

Here's a very interesting article on Jon Jones' arms. The author is arguing that he's not being dirty, but that what he's really doing is using an old-school Muay Thai stance that most fighters don't use anymore in order to throw more powerful elbows (which he was definitely doing), and the eye pokes are just an unfortunate side-effect.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/4/28...-mma-judo-chop

BigCatDaddy 04-28-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10591286)
Here's a very interesting article on Jon Jones' arms. The author is arguing that he's not being dirty, but that what he's really doing is using an old-school Muay Thai stance that most fighters don't use anymore in order to throw more powerful elbows (which he was definitely doing), and the eye pokes are just an unfortunate side-effect.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/4/28...-mma-judo-chop

We just need to go back to old school and not have to worry about it.

http://youtu.be/57Mva-3n7TY

SAUTO 04-28-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10591286)
Here's a very interesting article on Jon Jones' arms. The author is arguing that he's not being dirty, but that what he's really doing is using an old-school Muay Thai stance that most fighters don't use anymore in order to throw more powerful elbows (which he was definitely doing), and the eye pokes are just an unfortunate side-effect.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/4/28...-mma-judo-chop

I agree
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alnorth 04-28-2014 07:32 PM

Wow, Rumble Johnson jumped from #14 all the way up to #5 in the LHW rankings after that fight in the co-main. He DID look good, but damn. I guess they are grooming him for a title shot.

jd1020 05-24-2014 11:20 PM

Damn. Barao just got dominated.

BigCatDaddy 05-24-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10649577)
Damn. Barao just got dominated.

That was impressive. TJ was just fighting at a different speed.

alnorth 05-25-2014 10:16 AM

Last night was one of the reasons I watch MMA. I honestly bought the fight for the undercards, I wanted to see Lawler win, and I wanted to see if DC could dust off Hendo and make a case for a title shot.

The main event was an afterthought, sure TJ is a tough kid, but I figured he was an outmatched blood donor for this fight, intended to keep Barao's skills sharp in a tune-up payday while waiting for a real opponent to heal up.

What was shocking wasn't that TJ won the fight, but that it was no fluke, he won every round. In the 4th and 5th he could have laid back, played defense, and taken it easy but he instead stayed in there and finished it. He was clearly the better fighter last night, deserved to be the champ, and now I want to see if he can hold on to the title.

CoMoChief 05-25-2014 10:26 AM

Cormier vs Hendo full fight video for those who missed it.

(sorry can't embed)

http://mmashare.crazyko.com/2014/05/...henderson.html

TimBone 05-25-2014 11:20 AM

Dillashaw opened a lot of eyes last night. I haven't been that impressed by an MMA fight in a long time. His foot and head movement were spectacular.

BigCatDaddy 05-25-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10649868)
Dillashaw opened a lot of eyes last night. I haven't been that impressed by an MMA fight in a long time. His foot and head movement were spectacular.

He was more powerful version of Frankie Edgar IMO.

raybec 4 06-05-2014 08:14 PM

I was just as shocked at how easily DC ragdolled Hendo

raybec 4 06-10-2014 07:28 PM

Chael out of UFC 175 for failing a test for the same drug Robert Mathis had in his system. Not sure how to feel about this considering the TRT ban Nevada has issued. They're moving the goal posts on these guys.

raybec 4 06-11-2014 03:48 PM

I was surprised no one commented on how Diego Sanchez was gifted the win against Pearson. Terrible decision

Perineum Ripper 06-11-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10684890)
I was surprised no one commented on how Diego Sanchez was gifted the win against Pearson. Terrible decision

Pearson got robbed..He won all 3 rounds in my opinion

TimBone 06-11-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 10684942)
Pearson got robbed..He won all 3 rounds in my opinion

It is possible for one judge to score a fight 30-27 for one fighter, and for another judge to score the fight 30-27 for the other fighter, but it should RARELY happen. This fight was not one of those times it should have happened. I was disgusted.

They need actual MMA judges. Not converted boxing judges. These guys are ****ing up people's careers. Pearson should have moved up the ladder a bit after that fight. Instead, he's got a loss to Diego on his record. Ridiculous.

It was almost as bad as the decision Sanchez was gifted against Martin Kampmann.

SAUTO 06-11-2014 04:38 PM

These are the reasons I can't get as into ufc as I once was.

**** Dana white.
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raybec 4 06-11-2014 04:39 PM

I don't think a lot of judges understand the sport, but that was just a home town giveaway.

alnorth 06-11-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10683104)
Chael out of UFC 175 for failing a test for the same drug Robert Mathis had in his system. Not sure how to feel about this considering the TRT ban Nevada has issued. They're moving the goal posts on these guys.

eh, I have no sympathy for those TRT guys. I read about Chael's complaints, and he's got an argument, and it is kinda tough for him, but ya know what... even though TRT was legal at the time he was using, no one liked it including most fighters, so screw 'em. If it takes him another year or so to get his system back to normal, thats his problem, he shouldn't have been taking it in the first place.

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685076)
eh, I have no sympathy for those TRT guys. I read about Chael's complaints, and he's got an argument, and it is kinda tough for him, but ya know what... even though TRT was legal at the time he was using, no one liked it including most fighters, so screw 'em. If it takes him another year or so to get his system back to normal, thats his problem, he shouldn't have been taking it in the first place.

The problem is systems dont usually go back to normal.

alnorth 06-11-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10685096)
The problem is systems dont usually go back to normal.

yep, a side effect of TRT is that your body might not make much testosterone naturally if you stop.

If those fighters are all pretty much screwed now, I'm fine with it.

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685099)
yep, a side effect of TRT is that your body might not make much testosterone naturally if you stop.

If those fighters are all pretty much screwed now, I'm fine with it.

Why? They could have made made a mistake as a 18 year old and jacked up their HPTA for life. If they keep total T within a set of guidelines I dont see the problem.

alnorth 06-11-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10685105)
Why? They could have made made a mistake as a 18 year old and jacked up their HPTA for life. If they keep total T within a set of guidelines I dont see the problem.

Don't care. The benefit of a blanket ban is it removes all questions, all suspicions, all accusations. If you want to fight, don't do TRT. If you are one of the ultra-rare people who really are born with a medical need for replacement therapy, well thats just too bad, you weren't born to fight just like guys who are born without legs or arms.

alnorth 06-11-2014 06:20 PM

Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.

SAUTO 06-11-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685197)
Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.

Lol.
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Sorter 06-11-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685197)
Breaking News: Sonnen has announced his retirement.

http://mmainfinity.files.wordpress.c...nen-busted.gif

alnorth 06-11-2014 07:01 PM

I won't mind him as a commentator, I don't hate the guy, but if he can't fight anymore then he shouldn't try.

SAUTO 06-11-2014 07:04 PM

He should probably shut the **** up too.
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raybec 4 06-11-2014 07:10 PM

He's a dirtbag for sure. But he's an entertaining commentator

Sorter 06-11-2014 07:15 PM

I like Chael but I really can't understand why he'd choose to take something knowing his standing with the UFC and ACs.


The drug testing is gearing towards Olympic/World standards. This is simply stupidity on Chael's behalf.

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10685298)
He should probably shut the **** up too.
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It's all marketing. I think he is a pretty good dude when you see the real Chael. It's like hating a pro wrestler for the way he acts has a TV character.

Pants 06-11-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10685332)
It's all marketing. I think he is a pretty good dude when you see the real Chael. It's like hating a pro wrestler for the way he acts has a TV character.

Yeah, he's actually a really cool, level headed dude. He's a salesman through and through and knew exactly what he was doing with his antics.

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 10685371)
Yeah, he's actually a really cool, level headed dude. He's a salesman through and through and knew exactly what he was doing with his antics.

It will be interesting to see if he sticks with commentating or trys to cross over to Pro Wrestling. His shit talking is off the charts and he could transition over pretty easy with the mma/wrestling skills. Probably a lot more money potential than the UFC.

raybec 4 06-11-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10685332)
It's all marketing. I think he is a pretty good dude when you see the real Chael. It's like hating a pro wrestler for the way he acts has a TV character.

Yeah, except for all that mortgage fraud stuff

SAUTO 06-11-2014 08:58 PM

If I wanted to watch wrestling I would.
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BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10685495)
Yeah, except for all that mortgage fraud stuff

Meh, that shit happens when you've got bank. He made a mistake like a lot of people do. It's not like he went down for rape or domestic assault.

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10685513)
If I wanted to watch wrestling I would.
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Then ignore the 2 minutes interviews and just enjoy him fight. He's wasn't too bad most nights.

Jerm 06-11-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 10684942)
Pearson got robbed..He won all 3 rounds in my opinion

Biggest robbery in MMA ever...only behind Roy Jones Jr. getting jobbed in the Olympics as far as all of combat sports goes.

raybec 4 06-11-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10685569)
Biggest robbery in MMA ever...only behind Roy Jones Jr. getting jobbed in the Olympics as far as all of combat sports goes.

DeLahoya vs Trinidad was pretty close. That kind of shit is why I stopped watching boxing

BigCatDaddy 06-11-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10685590)
DeLahoya vs Trinidad was pretty close. That kind of shit is why I stopped watching boxing

Paquiao/Bradley I?

New World Order 06-11-2014 09:45 PM

I can't wait until Daniel Cormier grabs Jon Jones by the leg and throws him out of the cage super smash bros style.

But seriously, Cormier is going to rag doll Jon Jones

raybec 4 06-11-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10685628)
I can't wait until Daniel Cormier grabs Jon Jones by the leg and throws him out of the cage super smash bros style.

But seriously, Cormier is going to rag doll Jon Jones

If he can get close to him he will, Jones has a superior talent for staying on the outside and destroying people. Either way Jones has to get through Gus first and that's a large task

rico 06-11-2014 10:34 PM

Holyfield vs. Lewis 1 was pretty bad as well.

alnorth 06-11-2014 11:06 PM

So.... I just now noticed that Dana White decided to cut Jason High. People were expecting some kind of severe punishment, but the internet seems generally shocked by a lifetime ban for shoving a ref.

The pushback seems to be one of 2 reactions: 1) pointing out people who fail drug tests and don't get cut. 2) basically saying "aww come on, it was just a shove in the heat of the moment"

I'm not sure how I feel about the severity of the punishment, but I do think the first argument is a load of crap. Drugs and attacking the ref do not need to carry the same punishment, it is rational to deal with this a hell of a lot more severely than a drug test.

I think if I was Dana I would punish a move against the ref on a case by case basis, and maybe sanction someone from fighting for a full year for a momentary shove, with a ban coming only if you strike the ref. (exception if its obvious that you were so out of it you thought the ref was the opponent)

But Dana wants to go all zero-tolerance on this and drop a lifetime ban for a shove and walking away? OK fine, its his company he can do what he wants. Duly noted. I'll expect the same punishment if someone who actually draws well does the same thing. (though I'd agree that is very unlikely, if you are good enough and work long enough to get to that point, then you probably are not that stupid)

alnorth 06-11-2014 11:08 PM

here's what happened.

http://i.imgur.com/egKjaUz.gif

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"That Jason High kid got up and pushed a referee - he's cut," White said. "I'm going to cut him. I look at that the way [Paul] Daley put his hands on his opponent after a fight was over. You don't ever, ever f------- touch a referee, ever. You're done here. He's been apologizing on Twitter, but he's done."

TimBone 06-12-2014 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685792)
But Dana wants to go all zero-tolerance on this and drop a lifetime ban for a shove and walking away? OK fine, its his company he can do what he wants. Duly noted. I'll expect the same punishment if someone who actually draws well does the same thing. (though I'd agree that is very unlikely, if you are good enough and work long enough to get to that point, then you probably are not that stupid)

Why would you expect a huge draw, and an average fighter to be punished the same? It's crazy to expect that. Last season there was a team that came to KC for a preseason game and a couple of the camp fodder rookies were caught smoking dope in the hotel. I can't remember which team it was, but let's use the Pats as an example. Those rookies were cut the next day. Would you expect the Patriots to cut Tom Brady if he were the one caught smoking pot that night?

New World Order 06-12-2014 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10685729)
If he can get close to him he will, Jones has a superior talent for staying on the outside and destroying people. Either way Jones has to get through Gus first and that's a large task


Gus was able to take down Jones and I am sure Cormier will have no problem doing the same.

CoMoChief 06-12-2014 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10685795)
here's what happened.

http://i.imgur.com/egKjaUz.gif

Dude there's no case by case basis for that kinda shit.

You're not playing basketball or football. This is fighting, and yes it's in the heat of the moment, which is why there needs to be a no tolerance policy, you don't ever touch a referee inside the cage when that bell rings.

I'd cut him too....immediately.

Jerm 06-12-2014 05:58 AM

Dana White is such a hypocritical POS....cut High for that but keep fighters that juice and fail drug tests over and over again.

I've checked out on the UFC, over it...watch it occasionally but nothing like I used to.

Jerm 06-12-2014 06:03 AM

Not to mention on the last show they had a guy blatantly fish hook his opponent, which is one of the if not the biggest no nos in MMA oh but that's ok because his girlfriend is one of their marquee female fighters.

Dana White is just another corrupt boxing promoter in disguise...

alnorth 06-12-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10685875)
Dude there's no case by case basis for that kinda shit.

You're not playing basketball or football. This is fighting, and yes it's in the heat of the moment, which is why there needs to be a no tolerance policy, you don't ever touch a referee inside the cage when that bell rings.

I'd cut him too....immediately.

We're not talking about suspended for one year or even two years, we're talking about life. If you take a swing at a ref sure, but life for that?

I'd think being out for year(s) should be plenty for a deterrent, but life seems extreme.

Jerm 06-12-2014 08:01 AM

Gilbery Yvel nearly killed a ref after punching him and then the UFC signed him.

If one of their cash cows did that, no way would they get the same punishment.

chop 06-12-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10685896)
Not to mention on the last show they had a guy blatantly fish hook his opponent, which is one of the if not the biggest no nos in MMA oh but that's ok because his girlfriend is one of their marquee female fighters.

Dana White is just another corrupt boxing promoter in disguise...

I saw the replay and I'm not sure it was blatant. He did have is finger in his opponents mouth but I think if it were blatant, his opponents head would have turned the opposite way that it turned. I could be wrong but that is the way I saw it. It didn't have any bearing on the outcome and his opponent and opponents coach weren't complaining about it after the fight.

alnorth 06-14-2014 12:18 PM

Anyone else looking forward to the fight tonight? Its unusual to see someone with wicked knockout power in the tiny man division, but if Bagautinov can catch him, he could take the title.

http://i.imgur.com/1mooJBT.jpg

VS.

http://e9bbcba794ec60672475-693158ff...-w-478x270.jpg

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:26 PM

wow, OSP broke Ryan Jimmo's arm.

Sorter 06-14-2014 08:33 PM

I hope this happens again

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ps6fc68a69.gif

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10691857)
I hope this happens again

here's a better pic

http://fat.gfycat.com/GlaringPeacefulBlackbird.gif

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 08:44 PM

Andre spending some time at the buffet it appears.

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:48 PM

Trashweight fight

Bowser 06-14-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691866)

Damn, did he crush his windpipe?

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:50 PM

Schaub keeps going for the one-punch knockout. Andrei is...

actually I don't know what the hell Andei is doing. This guy used to be the heavyweight champion? Really? I wasn't watching MMA whenever that was.

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:53 PM

This fight should not have been on the main card. The women's fight was a hell of a lot more entertaining than this unwatchable crap.

alnorth 06-14-2014 08:57 PM

That was the worst heavyweight "fight" I have ever seen.

They should both lose.

Sorter 06-14-2014 08:57 PM

That was hard to watch.

Sorter 06-14-2014 08:59 PM

lulz

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:00 PM

haha, they gave it to that pathetic has-been Arlovski? Whatever, I don't care. This fight was terrible.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:09 PM

Two top-11 light heavyweights? OK, I'm in, get this train wreck back on track.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:10 PM

Feijao via TKO

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:16 PM

Bader looks much more explosive

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10691885)
That was hard to watch.

McCarthy was the best thing about that fight.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10691919)
McCarthy was the best thing about that fight.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:17 PM

OK, thats much, much better. I don't mind a wrestling match when its active and explosive.

Feijao looks lost on the ground.


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