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Chiefnj2 03-21-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8479292)
I don't think you've explained what it takes to be a great QB. .

Nobody can with any reliable certainty.

milkman 03-21-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8479292)
I don't think you've explained what it takes to be a great QB. All we can tell for sure here is that you, like most people, can identify them after the fact.

I think you're a dipshit that doesn't understand context, since I am talking about Terry Bradshaw, who you suggested was essentially just a guy.

Chief3188 03-21-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8479261)
I don't think people really understand what separates great QBs from good QBs

Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated QB that I've ever seen

Sure, the Steelers had outstanding talent, but the Steelers won 4 SBs because Bradshaw consistently stepped up and made plays when the Steelers needed them

It's the same thing with Joe Montana, and another underrated QB in Troy Aikman.

You don't win multiple SBs unless you have a QB who responds to pressure situations.

Agreed. I think it has been more than proven that you need a QB to succeed over an extended period of time. Until we start consistently trying to not only groom our own QB but giving that QB a real chance this team will never be doing more than living season to season not knowing how good they will be the next season.

We need to draft another one this year and let him and Stanzi compete to unseat the loser castle.

Chief3188 03-21-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8479292)
I don't think you've explained what it takes to be a great QB. All we can tell for sure here is that you, like most people, can identify them after the fact.

It's not his job to identify them before the fact. It is the job of the team we have rooted for our entire lives and for most of us here the team has failed miserably and not because they tried and failed, but because of their lack of trying. That is completely unacceptable and it should be to you as well. This franchise will never amount to anything more than a footnote until they do get a great QB that they have developed themselves. We will never win anything if we keep trotting out a reject like castle.

Coogs 03-21-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8479261)
I don't think people really understand what separates great QBs from good QBs

Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated QB that I've ever seen

Sure, the Steelers had outstanding talent, but the Steelers won 4 SBs because Bradshaw consistently stepped up and made plays when the Steelers needed them

It's the same thing with Joe Montana, and another underrated QB in Troy Aikman.

You don't win multiple SBs unless you have a QB who responds to pressure situations.

Funny thing is, Tim Tebow fits that discription. When/if he figures out the passing game in the earlier parts of the game, that dude is nails when the game is on the line.

Not suggesting anything, but just sayin'... :shrug:

crazycoffey 03-21-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8479384)
Funny thing is, Tim Tebow fits that discription. When/if he figures out the passing game in the earlier parts of the game, that dude is nails when the game is on the line.

Not suggesting anything, but just sayin'... :shrug:

I still do not want tebow. He's a glitch in the system, an anomaly, one that will not last, he'll burn out quickly, fade to little league water boy in another year or two.

Brock 03-21-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8479384)
Funny thing is, Tim Tebow fits that discription. When/if he figures out the passing game in the earlier parts of the game, that dude is nails when the game is on the line.

Not suggesting anything, but just sayin'... :shrug:

:facepalm:

Paniero 03-21-2012 10:01 AM

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Chief3188 03-21-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8479384)
Funny thing is, Tim Tebow fits that discription. When/if he figures out the passing game in the earlier parts of the game, that dude is nails when the game is on the line.

Not suggesting anything, but just sayin'... :shrug:

Those other QB's were able to make plays in the first three quarters as well so no Tebow does not fit that description after a partial season with only a couple of plays that a real QB might make.

Coogs 03-21-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8479424)
I still do not want tebow. He's a glitch in the system, an anomaly, one that will not last, he'll burn out quickly, fade to little league water boy in another year or two.

I'm not saying I want him either. But he does fit the discription put forward by Milkman. He makes plays when his team needs them in the clutch situations.

Coogs 03-21-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 8479481)
Those other QB's were able to make plays in the first three quarters as well so no Tebow does not fit that description after a partial season with only a couple of plays that a real QB might make.

Those other guys had some growing pains early in their careers. Terry Bradshaw for one. IIRC, Steelers fan were ready to run him out of town.

Coogs 03-21-2012 10:19 AM

In fact, check out Bradshaws stats...

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...B/BradTe00.htm


...nothing to write home about on a lot of fronts. BUT...!!!

crazycoffey 03-21-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8479497)
I'm not saying I want him either. But he does fit the discription put forward by Milkman. He makes plays when his team needs them in the clutch situations.

He did come through with a couple passes that could be qualified as clutch time by some, but I see some luck in that designation too and even the greats get luck sometime. But to me.... Tebow either is just really lucky or he's in some sort of shell, held back by insecurities. He doesn't seem insecure.

I also don't like his hype and attention. Fans made the bronco's leadership put in Tebow, he didn't earn it or deserve it, and that makes me hate him.

Brock 03-21-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8479564)
In fact, check out Bradshaws stats...

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...B/BradTe00.htm


...nothing to write home about on a lot of fronts. BUT...!!!

If Terry Bradshaw played the game as it is today, he'd put up Manning/Brady numbers. From the gate.

Coogs 03-21-2012 10:34 AM

And just for the record, I think the ideal spot for Tebow would be the Buffalo Bills. Chan Gailey's offense would be almost a perfect fit for Tebow type of game.


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