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Jerm 08-29-2014 10:11 PM

It's gonna be amusing to see the buyrate on this one...

alnorth 08-29-2014 10:13 PM

If the odds for Dillashaw were -1000 or better, I would strongly consider betting on him. -1500 is just too much for me though, especially given my reluctance to ever bet on the UFC.

raybec 4 08-29-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10861909)
It's gonna be amusing to see the buyrate on this one...

I'm stuck, I bought it yesterday

BigCatDaddy 08-29-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10861909)
It's gonna be amusing to see the buyrate on this one...

That's what they get for such a shitty undercard. There should be 3 really good fights on paper for every pay per view. At least 1 title fight and one number one contender type fight and maybe a fight with 2 veterans trying to get back into a title picture.

TimBone 08-29-2014 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10861945)
That's what they get for such a shitty undercard. There should be 3 really good fights on paper for every pay per view. At least 1 title fight and one number one contender type fight and maybe a fight with 2 veterans trying to get back into a title picture.

I agree. ...but it will likely never be like that again. There's so many cards that they're stretched thin.

TimBone 08-29-2014 11:11 PM

What I wish they would have done with Fox is set up some sort of Friday night fights deal where it's up and comers trying to make a name for themselves, and left the big fights for ppv.

alnorth 08-30-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10861932)
I'm stuck, I bought it yesterday

I'm not stuck, but I'm gonna probably end up paying for it, just because I had been looking forward to watching MMA all week. I'm expecting nothing out of the main event, I just hope one of the other fights will be entertaining.

alnorth 08-30-2014 10:59 AM

Its gonna be funny to hear Bruce Buffer yell out, "this is the moment UFC fans around the world have been waiting for".

alnorth 08-30-2014 12:28 PM

A few people must be betting on Soto for some reason, because the odds just dropped to -1000 and +600

alnorth 08-30-2014 08:51 PM

First two fights are done. Both were very entertaining.

alnorth 08-30-2014 09:54 PM

I agree with the decision in the co-main. Castillo out-wrestled Ferguson, but didn't do much with it. Ferguson did more in terms of fighting and doing damage.

BigCatDaddy 08-30-2014 09:57 PM

I'm glad I'm in Branson tonight. This might have been the first PPV in years I would have considered not getting so I'm glad I don't have to make that decision.

alnorth 08-30-2014 10:40 PM

The championship fight went into the 5th round. Soto actually put up a respectable performance before getting knocked out.

Soto might have won the 3rd round, maybe, but otherwise I have 50 or 49 points for Dillashaw before he got the KO.

TimBone 08-30-2014 10:42 PM

Yea, I heard Soto was really hanging in there.

alnorth 08-30-2014 10:47 PM

Soto might actually get ranked for this even though he lost. It was clear that TJ was on a whole different level, but Soto did not embarass himself at all.

alnorth 08-30-2014 10:52 PM

This whole card was generally entertaining. Nothing super-amazing, but there were no crappy fights either. And of course, Soto putting up anything even resembling a challenge when we all expected him to get killed was a nice bonus.

raybec 4 09-04-2014 06:05 AM

Free fights tomorrow bitches, I've always rooted for Jacare and I think Rothwell Overeem could be entertaining. Fight of the night should be Louzon Chiesa

jd1020 09-04-2014 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10865678)
The championship fight went into the 5th round. Soto actually put up a respectable performance before getting knocked out.

Soto might have won the 3rd round, maybe, but otherwise I have 50 or 49 points for Dillashaw before he got the KO.

Just now watched it.

No way did Soto even come close to winning round 3. Probably the most competitive round was round 1. The rest of the fight was just Dillashaw throwing punches in bunches and scoring a takedown in both round 3 and 4.

Soto didn't embarrass himself, but I didn't find that fight all that entertaining. Just seemed like a matter of when Dillashaw was going to land a good shot because Soto spent most of the time closed up like a turtle.

New World Order 09-04-2014 09:12 AM

Anyone think the UFC is currently lacking stars? I have watched the product since 2004 and we really don't have many marketable fighters.

Jon Jones and Cormier are the two that come to mind.

alnorth 09-04-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10878349)
Anyone think the UFC is currently lacking stars? I have watched the product since 2004 and we really don't have many marketable fighters.

Jon Jones and Cormier are the two that come to mind.

He's not very marketable as far as ads go, but the Valasquez fight is probably going to be big.

jd1020 09-04-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10878349)
Anyone think the UFC is currently lacking stars? I have watched the product since 2004 and we really don't have many marketable fighters.

Jon Jones and Cormier are the two that come to mind.

Silva and Rousey.

alnorth 09-04-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10878166)
Just now watched it.

No way did Soto even come close to winning round 3. Probably the most competitive round was round 1. The rest of the fight was just Dillashaw throwing punches in bunches and scoring a takedown in both round 3 and 4.

Soto didn't embarrass himself, but I didn't find that fight all that entertaining. Just seemed like a matter of when Dillashaw was going to land a good shot because Soto spent most of the time closed up like a turtle.

The first round was not close at all.

I think Dillashaw probably won all 5 rounds, but if I had to pick the closest, I'd say the 3rd. Others elsewhere on the internet were thinking the 2nd. I hadn't heard of anyone saying round 1 was the closest.

jd1020 09-04-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10878372)
The first round was not close at all.

I think Dillashaw probably won all 5 rounds, but if I had to pick the closest, I'd say the 3rd. Others elsewhere on the internet were thinking the 2nd. I hadn't heard of anyone saying round 1 was the closest.

I think you should rewatch round 3, tbh.

alnorth 09-04-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10878370)
Silva and Rousey.

Rousey is odd in that she's very commercially marketable, but I don't think she can carry an actual card. She's an excellent co-main to bring up an otherwise-ordinary card though.

alnorth 09-04-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10878374)
I think you should rewatch round 3, tbh.

I think I'll rely on the wisdom of the masses. Out of the dozens of independent viewers, no one but you (that I've seen) is pointing at round 1. I will say most think round 2 was the closest, so mine wasn't the majority opinion.

jd1020 09-04-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10878379)
I think I'll rely on the wisdom of the masses. Out of the dozens of independent viewers, no one but you (that I've seen) is pointing at round 1. I will say most think round 2 was the closest, so mine wasn't the majority opinion.

I'm not pointing at any round. Dillashaw dominated that fight, round 3 being one of his more dominant rounds. How you say that Soto might have won that round is mind boggling. He landed a couple jabs and that's about it.

alnorth 09-04-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10878389)
I'm not pointing at any round. Dillashaw dominated that fight, round 3 being one of his more dominant rounds. How you say that Soto might have won that round is mind boggling. He landed a couple jabs and that's about it.

I guess I just don't value takedowns where you don't accomplish much and the other guy gets up in a reasonably quick amount of time as highly as you do. I recognize that takedowns are hard and impressive, but if you don't do damage, don't hold him down, and don't get a sub attempt in, thats only about as valuable as a decent punch to me.

As far as it being mind-boggling, I don't get that since judging by the stats its probably going to be at least Soto's 2nd-best round. It certainly wasn't the 1st, 4th, or 5th, so we're only left with the 2nd or 3rd. I imagine if I watched it again I'd change my mind to the 2nd round being the closest, but I'd probably still call the 3rd round the 2nd-closest. There might be a temptation to think he did better than he really did in the 1st simply because the expectation was that this fight would end quickly and not be close.

BigCatDaddy 09-05-2014 09:21 PM

This Friday night fight card is pretty stacked. Better fighters and fights than some of the PPV's they've put on. Rothwell knocked Overeem the **** out quick. Mittrione also with the quick KO.

New World Order 09-05-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10883437)
This Friday night fight card is pretty stacked. Better fighters and fights than some of the PPV's they've put on. Rothwell knocked Overeem the **** out quick. Mittrione also with the quick KO.


Incredible how the card looks better than 177 and 178

TimBone 09-05-2014 09:33 PM

It's been a great card. I was disappointed the Lauzon-Chiesa fight was stopped so soon. They were really having at it.

raybec 4 09-15-2014 03:14 PM

So Andrei KO's Big Foot and now everyone says he's back. I call bullshit, he can't handle the top HW's or even LHW's

raybec 4 09-17-2014 09:51 AM

UFC 178 and 179 both have only a couple of watchable fights on each card. I don't get the whole strategy of putting on these thin cards and then completely stacking up UFC 181. Weidman/Belfort Pettis/Melendez and Brown/Schaub all on the same card.

alnorth 09-27-2014 07:43 PM

Anyone else watching this PPV tonight?

Katipan 09-27-2014 08:10 PM

Ahh So excited for this fight.

I don't even care who wins.

Sorter 09-27-2014 08:14 PM

Glad to see Dominick look well after the lengthy time out.

http://giant.gfycat.com/PerkyFrenchHerculesbeetle.gif

alnorth 09-27-2014 09:06 PM

The end of that Romero/Kennedy fight was some WWE shit.

IA_Chiefs_fan 09-27-2014 09:09 PM

That was bull.

Sorter 09-27-2014 09:18 PM

Connor is a ****ing manbeast. Jesus.

BigCatDaddy 09-27-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10953832)
The end of that Romero/Kennedy fight was some WWE shit.

McCarthy butchered that.

alnorth 09-27-2014 09:58 PM

This whole card has been great. It'll be worth the $$$ even if the title fight ends up being crap.

alnorth 09-27-2014 10:04 PM

I had $50 bet on Cerrone :)

alnorth 09-27-2014 10:05 PM

I don't really care who wins this title, just want a good fight.

alnorth 09-28-2014 12:07 AM

OK, if anyone's still reading this, do yourself a favor and go watch the post-fight press conference when it gets posted. This was a hilariously awesome spectacle.

It basically devolved into the Conor McGregor show, he showed up late but he was a total telegenic pimp with the mic. He's setting himself up to either be a laughingstock or a great champion someday who backs up his bold words. Cerrone was losing his shit near the end laughing at what he was saying.

raybec 4 10-21-2014 06:29 AM

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This is gold if you haven't seen it. I hope Cormier destroys Jones but I doubt it. NSFW Language

SAUTO 10-21-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 11035515)
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This is gold if you haven't seen it. I hope Cormier destroys Jones but I doubt it. NSFW Language

yeah thats a buy.

alnorth 10-21-2014 07:43 AM

Yeah. UFC 179 this weekend looks like garbage, but the 3 after that...

raybec 4 10-21-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11035602)
Yeah. UFC 179 this weekend looks like garbage, but the 3 after that...

I think a lot of these cards have been really watered down. The UFC is going the way of boxing.

Chromatic 10-21-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 11035662)
I think a lot of these cards have been really watered down. The UFC is going the way of boxing.

There are way too many events and a big lack of name recognition compared to a few years ago.

raybec 4 10-22-2014 06:18 AM

Cain is hurt......again! Mark Hunt takes his place in Mexico to fight Werdum for the interim title

Katipan 11-15-2014 07:21 PM

Guy just shit his pants in the middle of a fight.

My night is made.

Katipan 11-15-2014 07:22 PM

More so if Tito gets his ass kicked on another channel.

Katipan 11-15-2014 07:38 PM

Now a chick's ear might be falling off. :D

Katipan 11-15-2014 08:02 PM

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-conten...22IgAETxVB.jpg

Sorter 11-15-2014 08:22 PM

http://fat.gfycat.com/HeartfeltBabyi...ig-reverse.mp4

alnorth 11-15-2014 08:30 PM

Wow, a 2 point deduction! I didn't even know that was a thing. If it is though, then that was a good call, that was an obvious intentional headbutt.

TimBone 11-15-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 11112885)
Guy just shit his pants in the middle of a fight.

My night is made.

I saw that happen live at some amateur fights. We were at ringside VIP tables and had no idea what was going on. We just kept seeing the ref going back and forth between watching the fight and looking over at a table ringside. He was asking somebody at that table wtf he was supposed to do.

Finally he stopped the fight, and we saw one of the fighters stand up with a big ol' grease stain in the back of his shorts. He didn't wait for any direction, he immediately left the ring, sprinted out of the arena, and I assume kept on going right into a career change. I don't think you come back from something like that.

The guy that had to clean the ring before the next fight sure had a shitty job.

TimBone 11-15-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11113033)
Wow, a 2 point deduction! I didn't even know that was a thing. If it is though, then that was a good call, that was an obvious intentional headbutt.

I don't recall ever seeing a 2 point deduction either.

alnorth 11-15-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11113084)
I don't recall ever seeing a 2 point deduction either.

"I don't care what he says, that was intentional! Two points!"

-Big John

BigCatDaddy 11-15-2014 09:27 PM

The UFC really need to start addressing the amount of Main and Co-Main events that never happen do to injury or whatever. I'd say about 2/3's of the PPV have one of the Main or CM's get changed before it happens. If they don't start putting 1 or 2 more CM type fights on every PPV I can see the buy rates to start to drop. This is really a shit card on paper, but I'll never not buy one regardless, but that isn't the case for most buyers.

Katipan 11-15-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11113165)
The UFC really need to start addressing the amount of Main and Co-Main events that never happen do to injury or whatever. I'd say about 2/3's of the PPV have one of the Main or CM's get changed before it happens. If they don't start putting 1 or 2 more CM type fights on every PPV I can see the buy rates to start to drop. This is really a shit card on paper, but I'll never not buy one regardless, but that isn't the case for most buyers.

We didn't buy it because I really dislike Mr. Tito Ortiz and I wanted to see him all bloody. But Good God, I'm used to Bellator tournaments, not events like this. These fights with all the WWE special effects in their walk outs... Costumes, coordinated music videos, hot half naked girls, lights, fog, glitter.

I'm just too old.

rico 11-15-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 11113188)
We didn't buy it because I really dislike Mr. Tito Ortiz and I wanted to see him all bloody. But Good God, I'm used to Bellator tournaments, not events like this. These fights with all the WWE special effects in their walk outs... Costumes, coordinated music videos, hot half naked girls, lights, fog, glitter.

I'm just too old.

Remember when Prince Naseem Hanged, the boxer used to have some intros that seemed crazy at the time (late 90's)? I loved his Halloween intro.

Katipan 11-15-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 11113198)
Remember when Prince Naseem Hanged, the boxer used to have some intros that seemed crazy at the time (late 90's)? I loved his Halloween intro.

I know there is a target audience for this stuff. And I fondly remember the low dongs of the bells that chimed when the original Undertaker stalked out in the original WWF.

But I guess I snobbily thought the MMA fights were more...

Sigh...

Professional? Such a stupid word, but I have no better one. It's so far beyond an entourage and an entrance song. It's like a coordinated circus act.

I'm an old lady. Get off my lawn.

TimBone 11-15-2014 10:18 PM

Sorry it's upside down, that's how it was posted to me.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...a8a09bf211.jpg

alnorth 11-15-2014 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11113165)
The UFC really need to start addressing the amount of Main and Co-Main events that never happen do to injury or whatever. I'd say about 2/3's of the PPV have one of the Main or CM's get changed before it happens. If they don't start putting 1 or 2 more CM type fights on every PPV I can see the buy rates to start to drop. This is really a shit card on paper, but I'll never not buy one regardless, but that isn't the case for most buyers.

Dana White actually addressed this a bit. Talked about how in the NFL, they don't even hit anymore in practice.

UFC Training camps have gotten too insane, they need to back it off and make sure they don't freaking hurt themselves in camp anymore, because this is getting ridiculous.

If NFL teams don't even hit anymore in practice, then you can train and get ready for an opponent without hurting yourself.

alnorth 11-15-2014 10:31 PM

Come on Hunt! Knock that bastard out, you magnificent Kiwi!

Sorter 11-15-2014 10:37 PM

Werdum playing opossum ala Fedor fight.

Sorter 11-15-2014 10:39 PM

Oh gawd. Run away Mark.

Sorter 11-15-2014 10:39 PM

GTFO out of his guard Mark.

Sorter 11-15-2014 10:47 PM

Awesome knee.

alnorth 11-15-2014 10:54 PM

well... Hunt almost got him. Hunt is never going to win the big fight. At least he was entertaining.

Katipan 11-15-2014 11:13 PM

JFC I hate Tito.

Mav 11-15-2014 11:54 PM

What channel?

TimBone 11-16-2014 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 11113384)
JFC I hate Tito.

Hahaha....He makes it so easy to hate him. That's kinda nice of him.

alnorth 11-22-2014 01:11 PM

Fight night looks really good tonight, not much worse than a PPV.

If Cub Swanson wins, he'll get the featherweight title shot against Aldo next year. If not, then everyone's going to be looking at Conor McGregor. Several of the fights below the main event are also pretty good on paper.

Sorter 11-22-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11136826)
Fight night looks really good tonight, not much worse than a PPV.

If Cub Swanson wins, he'll get the featherweight title shot against Aldo next year. If not, then everyone's going to be looking at Conor McGregor. Several of the fights below the main event are also pretty good on paper.

McGOAT is pretty damn fun to watch.

Jerm 11-22-2014 11:37 PM

Has there ever been an explanation why the UFC flatly refuses to run a show in KC?

Sprint Center is a perfect venue, MMA shows like Titan FC and Invicta run in KC easily, and the MMA scene is def. on the rise.

Just confusing to me.....

Mr. Kotter 11-22-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11138064)
Has there ever been an explanation why the UFC flatly refuses to run a show in KC?

Sprint Center is a perfect venue, MMA shows like Titan FC and Invicta run in KC easily, and the MMA scene is def. on the rise.

Just confusing to me.....

I've had the exact same though often... :banghead:

TimBone 11-23-2014 12:03 AM

Dana White is a Patriots fan. Some random ****ing Chiefs DB wants to injure Tom Terrific for a full season. **** you, KC. No UFC for you.

Otter 11-23-2014 12:17 AM

I ****ing love Frankie Edgar! /throwstightywhiteysinthecageandsqueels

alnorth 11-23-2014 12:23 AM

Damn. Cub got freaking wrecked.

I almost hated to see the finish in the last seconds because I wanted to see how many 10-8's the judges would hand out. I had it at 50-43


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