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TRR 03-21-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8480108)
Quinn has played in 12 games.

So odd...I have a friend that works at ND and we talk about Quinn and Clausen (not a good word said about Jimmy) a lot. He is still clueless as to why you draft a guy in the first round and only give him a 12 game window to show what he has to offer. Quinn had moments of competence in those 12 games as well.
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The Franchise 03-21-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8480127)
And how many games did Lenny play in?

1?

I'm not sure. I'm not really familiar with his career before the Chiefs.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-21-2012 11:56 AM

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patteeu 03-21-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8480111)
How do you define greatness?

Big numbers don't impress me.

Greatness, to me, is defined by what you do in the biggest moments, and no one delivered in big moments more consistently than Joe Montana, Bart Starr, and Terry Bradshaw.

Terry Bradshaw doesn't belong on that list, but John Elway does. You're too young to have much memory of Bart Starr.

The Franchise 03-21-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8480135)
So odd...I have a friend that works at ND and we talk about Quinn and Clausen (not a good word said about Jimmy) a lot. He is still clueless as to why you draft a guy in the first round and only give him a 12 game window to show what he has to offer. Quinn had moments of competence in those 12 games as well.
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12 games on a ****ing shit team that was devoid of talent.

milkman 03-21-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8480145)
I'm not sure. I'm not really familiar with his career before the Chiefs.

See my following post.

Quinn had more opportunity than Lenny, has a larger body of work to judge him from.

I am not discounting the possibility that the right situation with the right coaching can untap the potential that made Quinn a first round talent, but I am also not going to get my hopes raised.

Bowser 03-21-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8480173)
12 games on a ****ing shit team that was devoid of talent.

Too bad he isn't going to be given a fair shot at winning the job here, either.

The Franchise 03-21-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8480186)
See my following post.

Quinn had more opportunity than Lenny, has a larger body of work to judge him from.

I am not discounting the possibility that the right situation with the right coaching can untap the potential that made Quinn a first round talent, but I am also not going to get my hopes raised.

I think it can happen.....but I'm not sure that he's going to get the opportunity. But I could be wrong....he now has RAC and Daboll to work with. They're more familiar with Quinn then they are Cassel. If Cassel struggles next season.....I wouldn't be surprised to see him pulled for Quinn.

patteeu 03-21-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8480186)
I am not discounting the possibility that the right situation with the right coaching can untap the potential that made Quinn a first round talent, but I am also not going to get my hopes raised.

That's reasonable.

milkman 03-21-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8480164)
Terry Bradshaw doesn't belong on that list, but John Elway does. You're too young to have much memory of Bart Starr.

You'd be surprised by how much I remember about my early years and watching football, and that goes to things that happened in my personal life.

But I put Starr in the conversation based on long discussions with my uncle about football from my late teens and early twenties.

Bowser 03-21-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8480200)
I think it can happen.....but I'm not sure that he's going to get the opportunity. But I could be wrong....he now has RAC and Daboll to work with. They're more familiar with Quinn then they are Cassel. If Cassel struggles next season.....I wouldn't be surprised to see him pulled for Quinn.

We live and die by Cassel. The only way Quinn gets in there is if Cassel blows an achilles, or some such.

The Franchise 03-21-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8480211)
We live and die by Cassel. The only way Quinn gets in there is if Cassel blows an achilles, or some such.

I'm not so sure.

I know the FO said that they would bring in competition for Cassel....and then they brought in Quinn....but I think they're starting to realize that Cassel is pretty close to sinking the entire ship and taking them all with him. That's why there was all of the talk about competition in the 1st place. They'll give Cassel the first half of this year....but if he flounders like he always has.....they'll be quick to pull him. Shit....he only has one year left on his deal anyways.

NJChiefsFan 03-21-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8480227)
I'm not so sure.

I know the FO said that they would bring in competition for Cassel....and then they brought in Quinn....but I think they're starting to realize that Cassel is pretty close to sinking the entire ship and taking them all with him. That's why there was all of the talk about competition in the 1st place. They'll give Cassel the first half of this year....but if he flounders like he always has.....they'll be quick to pull him. Shit....he only has one year left on his deal anyways.

This is a good team. Even if Cassel struggles, its probably not going to be an epic failure. With this defense and running game, Matt will be protected enough. He isn't going to be forced into epic bad games. We may see the truth about his skills, but it won't be enough to pull him.

morphius 03-21-2012 12:13 PM

My pulling it out of my butt guess is that we are planning to draft Weeden in the 2nd or 3rd, but if there is a run on QB's and we miss him they needed to have someone to backup Cassel if/when he falls into a fetal position again. Not getting Manning, and not being able to move up to get the only other QB's worth drafting painted them in a corner.

milkman 03-21-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 8480260)
My pulling it out of my butt guess is that we are planning to draft Weeden in the 2nd or 3rd, but if there is a run on QB's and we miss him they needed to have someone to backup Cassel if/when he falls into a fetal position again. Not getting Manning, and not being able to move up to get the only other QB's worth drafting painted them in a corner.

No thanks to a 30 year old rookie QB.


I embellished a little on the age (not by much, though) to make the point.


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