I can see round 3 going either way, but if you think that was an obvious no-brainer, I have to disagree, and a lot of other people online agree that round 3 was close.

Yeah. Even his corner knew he was done 3-1 going into the 5th.

Jones is going to be in the GOAT discussion for MMA regardless for how he has dominated competition who dominated every one else.

I wonder how he would fare putting on some weight and going heavyweight.

I know other people hate Bones but goddamn he's amazing.

No one at 205 is beating him...maybe he'll move up to HW now. Was so hoping he'd call out Cain.

Why is the decision taking so long? Seems pretty clearly Jones.

I wanna see rematch with Alexander Gustafsson.

There's no harm in that whatsoever and I meant no disrespect to you in my post, when I quoted Zooted they had given 3 to Cormier AND Jones (I was simply being a smartass).
As far as 49-46 or 48-47, I'm OK with disagreeing. We just saw it differently.

Don't know why, Bones will just beat him again.

Anthony Johnson is the only interesting fight at 205 and that's simply because of his size and actually has the power to stifle Bones.

Johnson would be a similar result. He is going to have problems with being kept on the outside. He would have to get lucky or have Jones make a mistake.

Just to clarify, I meant that I could see the argument for giving round 3 to Cormier. That being said, I didn't. I gave it to Jones, that's why I said 1, 3, 4 & 5.

Pretty much this. Otherwise they're not telling him he has to go out and "Stop him".
But some folks are always going to perceive things differently. Hell, folks that get paid to do this (though not as much as many here probably believe) come away 30-27, 30-27, 29-28 quite often in a three round bout. There's no reason a bunch of us on a football message board should be in complete agreement

And people on message boards let personal feelings get in the way at times as noted by Al and Kotter wanting to give 3 to Cormier because Jones tried some leaping shit and fell on his back in the last 10 seconds after winning the round convincingly.

NOt me, Jones is tall and strong. Mades it alot easier for him. Cormier had to work extra hard for nothing.

I didnt think he would run out of gas, but he did. Thats what i was shocked at, i think he had Jones hurt a few times in rounds 2-3. Then after that, it was easy work for jones.

Yea, I was stoked going into the 4th and then nothing. No gas left.

how did that not suprise you, the dudes a former olympian, and we all saw him ragdoll a great hw grapper in josh barnett, and control a 265lb mir like a child against the cage, and throw hendo like 6 feet in the air. jones stuffed all his attempts, took him down in the first, several times when he gassed, he easily controlled dc holding his wrists. it was suprising.

2 judges gave round 2 to Cormier and 1 judge gave round 3 to DC.

Gustafsson, who beat him the first time and got ****ed.

No, he didnt. You kick the shit out of someone for 2 rounds and lose 3 rounds although not as badly as your opponent lost 2. You still lose. Assuming no 10-8 rds.

I can't believe this. That crazy bastard Cowboy Cerrone is replacing Eddie Alvarez to fight Benson Henderson in Boston on the 18th. Thats just 15 days after his last fight.

That guy is a freaking beast on wheels man, anybody,anywhere,anytime.

As to Jones DC, I was really disappointed in how DC seemed to lose his heart after Jones took him down in the 4th.

Fight night on the 18th is looking very important now. McGregor has already been promised a title shot if he wins. On top of that, now if Cowboy wins the co-main, its going to start looking just really absurd if he doesn't get the next title shot.

Breaking News: Jon Jones tested positive for cocaine. He's going to rehab.

ROFL

There will be no sanctions of any kind. Apparently under the WADA rules, cocaine is not a banned substance if during the out-of-competition time period. The positive test was a while ago, and was considered an out-of-competition test.

The NV commission is going to discuss whether they should break from WADA and make cocaine a banned substance year-round.

HOLY SHIT....I thought that was a joke.

Rehab is for quitters.

Dones this mean he will have to vacate his title

Good. He's a scumbag POS.

This.

Not that it matters. Cerrone is not beating Henderson.

Cerrone is probably the most likable fighter in the UFC. The guy is hilarious and is great at keeping up with his fans.

He has a small chance of keeping up with Henderson, but I can dream.

Yeah, he's a fan favorite, and I can see why. Unfortunately the first fight I saw him in was his WEC fight against Jamie Varner where they were both douching it up pretty big. So, I've never been a fan. His recent string of wins has been impressive, especially with guys like Barboza, Alvarez, and Miller on the list. Taking a fight against Benson Henderson on 15 days notice is not a good career choice though.

Going back to this douchebag and his drug habit.

Isn't weed a banned substance? Didn't Diaz get suspended for a year for weed? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong.

If so, how is weed a banned substance and cocaine isnt?

"The Nevada commission follows the World Anti-Doping Agency code and benzoylecgonine is not banned out-of-competition. As a result, the commission was unable to penalize Jones or prevent him from fighting despite knowing of the positive test."

So they're just passing the blame.

lol. That's ****ing awesome.

damn! Just imagine if Jones had actually taken DC seriously

I can't even believe Dana White is allowing CM Punk to come into the UFC and fight.

I guess he's desperate to have another large PPV draw. But this is really the last straw for me. I'll watch Anderson Silva try and come back but I'm done watching UFC..it's getting silly. What if Dave Batista calls up White and wants to fight? This guy could get his ass kicked by any tough bar or club bouncer/doorman and White is letting him come in like some celebrity boxing match, trying to use his name to sell tickets/PPV buys. Punk can say all he wants about how this is a goal and a dream of his and he's not going to come into this lightly etc..all the cliche' shit, but at the end of the day he can't fight. Lesnar was a world class athlete and a monster of a dude that was a former NCAA champion wrestler who was probably stronger than any other fighter on UFC's roster. Many pieces were already there.


What in the **** does CM Punk bring to the table? A fake gimmick name and mic skills? Get him on TV, have him pump himself up or the company whatever...get people to watch and bring in $$$PPV$$$. Dana White has said forever he wants this company to be nothing like WWE or celebrity boxing/fighting and he's turning into just that.

If I were UFC fans I'd boycott the UFC....don't give them another dime of your money. Unless its someone like Lebron James, No one can just walk onto a NFL team and instantly just make the gameday squad and play. No one would ever do that. Lesnar tried out for the Vikings, but he was cut. Chad Ochocinco tried out for Sporting KC, but that was just for practicing, he was never going to ever play in an actual game. Hell Garth Brooks played w/ the Royals in ST...And there have been other scenarios. But if Dana White is wanting to legitimate his sport along the lines of MLB NFL NBA NHL then his fights need to be for real.

Just bad for the sport.

I really can't agree with that, at all.

The UFC wants to bring in CM Punk? Fine, I don't care. If they try to make him the headliner of a PPV, I don't have to buy it. If his fight is free, sure I'll tune in out of curiosity and laugh at him if he loses.

The UFC is, eventually in the long-run, a meritocracy. Regardless of if you think the matchmakers are doing a great job or are incompetent clowns, the best fighters are always going to make themselves known and eventually force the UFC to give them the title shot. If a champion doesn't deserve his belt, he'll eventually lose it or be forced to vacate.

CM Punk is not taking the spot of anyone important. If he's taking anyone's spot, its some random unknown nobody toiling away in a local promotion with maybe a 5-1 record who now has to wait 4 or 5 more months to finally get the call.

So nick Diaz gets busted smoking weed and he get screwed. Jones get busted with cocaine and he's allowed to fight. Awesome

Covering this up just shows what a scumbag Dana White is and what a joke the UFC is....****ing hypocrites.

Nick Diaz was busted with an in-competition test. Jon Jones was busted in an out-of-competition test.

If Nick Diaz would have tested positive in a similar time frame compared to his fight as Jon Jones, he also would have gotten away with no sanctions. If Jon Jones would have tested positive right after his fight, he would have been punished.

Whether you think its a good idea or not, those are the rules. There are a lot of substances that we normally think of as PED's that are banned at all times, but there is also a seperate list of substances that are banned only in-competition. I'm not sure how long before or after an event it takes to be in-competition, but Jon Jones failed an out-of-competition test.

Why they hell should they have to announce it before the PPV? If it was actually a PED that could impact the integrity of the competition, then sure, but no one really believes Cocaine a month before a fight is a PED.

Exactly. It had 0 impact on the fight

In case anyone is wondering what the point is for substances banned only in-competition, its generally for things that no one believes will improve your long-term ability to compete, but could possibly improve your ability to compete later that day or tomorrow. The things banned only in-competition are (in each case there's a list of chemical agents they test for): stimulants, narcotics, cannabinoids, and glucocorticoids.

If you are caught with one of those substances, it only matters under WADA if it was in-competition. For stimulants, caffeine and nicotine are permitted, probably because I guess they decided they don't want the publicity of stripping an olympic medal from someone for drinking coffee or smoking cigarettes.

Batista might have some connections with White. I remember he was a body guard for some UFC fighter. But CM Punk does he even know any moves or have a background in fighting.

I don't follow MMA anymore but I do know that Punk's been training BJJ in some capacity for several years. Whether that means anything only time will tell. But this isn't something he's just getting into on a whim. He's been talking about wanting to do MMA for a long time, has as I recall even suggested that he'd probably have gone into MMA rather than wresting if UFC been a bigger draw (i.e. more $$$) when he was coming up. None of which means he won't fall flat on his face.

He got popped December 4th...more than a month before the fight, he had no business fighting.

If it would've been a low or mid tier level fighter, their asses would've been gone.

Do you really think he stopped using a month before the fight lol? Look at his behavior at the weigh in FFS...it absolutely had an effect on the fight.

He's casually been training in Gracie BJJ...he's a white belt.

Lawlz A line of cocaine lasts about 45 minutes to an hour and a half depending on purity.

The cocaine had zero impact on his fight.

My point was along the lines of he didn't just decide to start training as a fighter right now to make some bucks. He's financially pretty set, which is rare for wrestlers traditionally but most of the younger (i.e. under 40) guys have learned. I would say he's doing UFC because he's a competitive guy. Dana White, on the other hand, must think he can make some money off his name.

Why not? It was not even illegal under the rules of the test. If his in-competition test does not come back hot, then everything is fine as far as I'm concerned. We may need to condemn him for other reasons unrelated to competition, like maybe for encouraging the use of cocaine to the youth of america and all the societal ills that may cause, but as far as the competition is concerned, there is no violation.

Ok so I'll go along with it and say it didn't...that still makes it right to keep it hidden from everyone for a month? Daniel Cormier didn't have a right to know? The people attending or the people buying the PPV shouldn't have known?

Yes it does, for business reasons.

No, DC did not need to know, because it had zero impact on the fight.

The people buying the PPV shouldn't care.

This is the same as testing positive for taking strong cold medicine a month before the fight, which is another substance that is banned in-competition, but fine out-of-competition.

Why should they? I don't really get why so many people give a shit other than they don't like the guy and want to club him with it.

He didn't encourage it. He just did some. Big difference.

Also, cocaine is fun in small amounts.

Now this bear,



He is encouraging kids to do cocaine.

And Chuck E Cheese, he encourages cocaine use

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Yes. No. No.

I finally found the definitive answer for what is in-competition for drug tests in MMA. It is 12 hours before the fight.

If you test positive for stimulants, narcotics, MJ, or whatever that 4th thing was, it only counts if the test sample was collected less than 12 hours before the fight. Otherwise, for out of competition tests, the only things that matter are the "real" PED's like steroids, blood doping, etc

He's trained w/ some BJJ a few times. He's popped in to some dude's gym a few times in the past when he wasn't on the road w/ WWE.

WWE stars work like 300/365 days a year. He doesn't have the time to do it. If any training at all its very VERY minimal.

What happens when this guy gets hit...by a professional fighter? It's not getting into some bar brawl or alley fight against some scumbag. These are trained fighters that have been doing this for a lot longer than he has.

It's bad for the sport and it's a terrible move by White. What does it tell your fighters? He's taking someone else's spot on a PPV card...someone who has fought a lot longer and has put in the hard work to fufill his dream of being on a UFC PPV card. Plus hes going to be making bank whatever the outcome is. He's a huge draw so just like Lesnar, he's going to bring in a seperate but rather large fanbase and Punk will see a portion of the money that comes from the PPV buys. And It will probably be more than any or most fighters on that card.

Again what does that tell your fighters? Well I'll tell you what it says....Dana White is a clown and has turned UFC into celebrity cage fighting. Have him come onto the Ultimate Fighter just like Kimbo Slice did....that show could use the ratings.

Bullcrap.

CM Punk, even if he turns out to be a total joke, is not taking a spot from anyone important, at all. Its a very big win for the UFC.

What is undeniable is that he will bring in $$$ to the UFC, embodied by curiosity in his first fight, including from me. Whether it turns out that he's a competent fighter or some moron who will get beat down, either way I wanna see it.

Yeah, its not a bad idea, dude is athletic, im sure he's trained in some kind of martial arts or even amatauer wrestling.

Its not a bad move at all, they will put him against someone decent, if he can hang then he can hang. All these guys come from somewhere Cain came from college wrestling and transitioned.

He will be ok, if not,t hen move on.

the only thing that bothers me is Cowboy has already lost to Henderson twice, RDA once and Pettis once. I know that doesn't mean he can't beat them but it could hurt his shot at a title.

Yep. He's making a mistake here.

Breaking news: the trilogy is off. The UFC is gonna make Hendricks earn a rematch against Lawler.

UFC 185 will have Hendricks vs Matt Brown in it. UFC 186 will include Rory MacDonald vs Lombard. The most impressive winner of those 2 fights gets Lawler later this year.

Matt Brown has no shot. Lombard/Rory should be good. Would rather see Lombard/Hendricks though.

I see whay you're saying but I really dig Matt Brown, dude has almost zero technique and just goes out there and bangs. Hendricks will smash him though.

I hate Rory though and I hope Lombard smashes him. If Rory stays on the outside and works his kickboxing he will win that fight.

Odds for tomorrow night:

Henderson -145
Cowboy +115

McGregor -1,100
Siver +650

Weigh-ins are starting soon.

Everyone made weight.

Awesome staredown

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Message to all fighters on the main card: finish your opponent, the judges are drunk.

Do the fighters check CP?

Spencer should get his win pay. Dana admitted live on TV that it was very bad judging.

gnarly cuts.

That is a great stop. Herb Dean is the best. You can't let him keep going when his eye is messed up like that.

Here we go, Cowboy vs Henderson, should be awesome...

I'm taping the rest. Too long on a Sunday night.

I like watching Cowboy fight..you can tell he just loves to fight

Yeah...Cerrone should have sat this one out.