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BigMeatballDave 09-14-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 7908897)
Eventually people will understand that Romeo was in no way responsible for the Patriots' success. He's worthless.

Seriously?

lcarus 09-14-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 7908897)
Eventually people will understand that Romeo was in no way responsible for the Patriots' success. He's worthless.

He only came here for the BBQ.

BigMeatballDave 09-14-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7908859)
No, he's not remotely one of the best in the league. Stop believing EVERYTHING that shitty website feeds you, dude. Have you seen some of the trash atop its rankings?

Just because Dorsey's playing the run on 3rd-and-15 against a 4-wide set, doesn't mean he's elite at it.

You don't pay attention to individual play, obviously.

BigMeatballDave 09-14-2011 04:41 PM

Loads of dumbassery going on in here...

BossChief 09-14-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 7909015)
Is that honestly the best you've got? I mean, REALLY? Because that's ****ing embarrassing. A fluke play against a rookie where he got destroyed at the POA and managed to make an asissted clean-up tackle after the RB runs right into him.

Penetration? Honestly, fella. Shoot me a PM and I'll help you understand football if you like. Getting put on your knees by a rook isn't good, for lesson 1.

You sir, are a damn fool.

WhiteWhale 09-14-2011 08:01 PM

I understand why Romeo felt that way going in, but I think he should have adjusted as the game went on as the pass rush was simply not getting it done.

Then again with our safeties unable to cover anyone at any point in the game, I'm not sure we would have done much better had we blitzed a bunch.

tk13 09-14-2011 08:02 PM

I don't think Crennel has ever been a big blitz guy. At least not in recent years. That's part of the reason he always gives Manning fits. Instead of trying to outsmart him with blitzes he makes Manning go into robot mode and take the safe plays underneath. It's really not surprising at all, especially against what we assumed was an inferior team.

WhiteWhale 09-14-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7909481)
I don't think Crennel has ever been a big blitz guy. At least not in recent years. That's part of the reason he always gives Manning fits. Instead of trying to outsmart him with blitzes he makes Manning go into robot mode and take the safe plays underneath. It's really not surprising at all, especially against what we assumed was an inferior team.

Romeo shows a lot of blitz and pressure fronts, but he rarely brings more than 4 guys.

With Berry here I thought this team should blitz more... with safeties who can't cover at all, I'm not sure I can stand by that.

BossChief 09-14-2011 08:22 PM

Thats the opposite of how I see things.

If you have weaknesses in the secondary, you should do whatever you can to try and rush the decision process and limit the amount of long developing plays.

You do that by bringing a little more pressure and making the offense react to that and you hope that forces mistakes and bad passes.

MIAdragon 09-14-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7909532)
Thats the opposite of how I see things.

If you have weaknesses in the secondary, you should do whatever you can to try and rush the decision process and limit the amount of long developing plays.

You do that by bringing a little more pressure and making the offense react to that and you hope that forces mistakes and bad passes.

Sure lets just give up the BIG plays quickly and get them out of the way, I kid I kid. Even our blitzes look weak, get handled and leave us short in the secondary. We simply need the guys upfront to do their damn job.

notorious 09-14-2011 08:38 PM

Romeo has always been a react guy instead of a dictate guy.



I want a guy that goes wildly crazy with aggresiveness. Pittsburgh dials up some nasty blitzes, along with the Ravens. They dictate the conditions of the game.

React defenses have sucked ass ever since the NFL laid out the red carpet for WR's and QB's.

BossChief 09-14-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 7909545)
Sure lets just give up the BIG plays quickly and get them out of the way, I kid I kid. Even our blitzes look weak, get handled and leave us short in the secondary. We simply need the guys upfront to do their damn job.

Houstons first step is totally uncoachable and his closing speed is borderline elite...he and Hali need to be getting after quarterbacks and disrupting running games.

If we think a defense that features Houston, Sabby and McGraw in zones all day is gonna stop ANYONE, we deserve to get the shit kicked out of us.

WhiteWhale 09-14-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7909532)
Thats the opposite of how I see things.

If you have weaknesses in the secondary, you should do whatever you can to try and rush the decision process and limit the amount of long developing plays.

You do that by bringing a little more pressure and making the offense react to that and you hope that forces mistakes and bad passes.

Well, that's true.

The problem only really comes if the front 7 can't get pressure with a 5 or 6 man rush.

Which is more often than most fans want to acknowledge in general, but I like our front 7 's blitzing ability. You're probably right. Blitzing is probably an even better option with the injury having occurred.

NJChiefsFan 09-14-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7909590)
Houstons first step is totally uncoachable and his closing speed is borderline elite...he and Hali need to be getting after quarterbacks and disrupting running games.

If we think a defense that features Houston, Sabby and McGraw in zones all day is gonna stop ANYONE, we deserve to get the shit kicked out of us.

Didn't really focus on individuals after the ass-kicking began but it seemed like Houston was in coverage more than he was going after Fitzpatrick.

Amnorix 09-15-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 7908897)
Eventually people will understand that Romeo was in no way responsible for the Patriots' success. He's worthless.

:rolleyes:

WTF is wrong with some of you people. Gunther sucks balls and is the worst DC in NFL history and now the Lions are tearing people's heads off and you're probably (hate to say it) going to watch Matt HoldstheBalltooLong Cassel get gangraped by the Lions defense this weekend.

Now Romeo Crennel with 25 years in the NFL or whatever dating back to the Giants and with more Super Bowl rings on his fingers than both Missouri teams put together is a brainless A-Hole who knows nothing about coaching.

MAYBE it's a talent thing. MAYBE losing one of, if not THE, best defender the team had knocked the game plan for a bit of a loop. Just a guess...

I certainly agree that the buck stopped with Belichick in all phases of the game, but Romeo was the one calling the defenses for those three Super Bowl wins, so your statement is flat absurd.

Whatever he does or doesn't do with the Chiefs isn't going to change the fact that he was a very important part of getting those rings his fingers.


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