Bob?

Who did they sign?

4

Bob's your uncle.

How did you know?!

Just a hunch

So,... is my uncle Bob safe?

Maybe he likes BBQ? :shrug:

I'll keep it secret, keep it safe.

ok, that makes me feel good. with no weaknesses in the o-line and Cassel will have all day to throw and ****ing still won't throw the ball past 8 yards and dump it off to DMC or Hillis every single time. We'll probably squeak into the playoffs, unless Manning signs with the donks (no chance to win division then) and unless our defense goes 2000 Ravens, we ain't going anywhere though.

Obviously this is the biggest upgrade we could have made outside of QB, great signing.

I wonder - is this bad for our QB situation? A great offensive line could make Cassel look passable this year and stick us with him for two or three more years, even though he isn't good enough to win a championship with.

On the other hand, this should remove any offensive line-related excuses for his play.

Seriously, we signed him for 5/22?

That's 10 million less than I thought he would get on a 5 year deal.

4 years

I think what helped a lot was the zone blocking scheme. The other interested teams didn't run one and Winston is a guy who excels with it.

Yay!

This is probably the best FA signing since Kendrell Bell!

Best deal in recent history!

It awesome my sis in law sad cause she a texans fan but i love it.

Can we sign a hot cheerleader now?
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It's a sad state of the team when you look at moves like this and think to yourself: "This is a great move, except that it's only going to make it even more likely that our shitty QB looks good enough to stay."

It remains to be seen whether the Chiefs have a center that's not a weakness. Casey Weigmann will probably not come back and that leaves the relatively untested Rodney Hudson as our center. We all hope he's up to the task, but there's no way of knowing.

It's more stupid than sad. Cassel is our QB because there is no better option out there. It seems clear that Pioli recognizes that we need an upgrade. If he could draft Andrew Luck, he would. It's just not an option.

Those aren't allowed in KC. It would show too obviously how horrible the uniforms are. If you don't have a square jaw, don't apply.

4 YEAR DEAL! :banghead:

Best in all history.

Samson Satele?

Hudson already proved he can handle guard in the NFL. Quite well.

1. Trade down, draft Konz

2. ???

3. Profit.

I don't get the whole "how sad is it that we celebrate a RT signing." bullshit.

Barry Richardson probably cost us some games the last two seasons. Signing one of the best right tackles in the league after being plagued by Richardson's play is worth celebrating. Winston might have been the difference in two games last year. At least A GAME. When your right tackle is worthy of me starting a thread over, he sucks pretty ****ing badly.

I'm glad richardson is gone and I hope he gets stabbed with a rusty aids needle.

What if that rusty aids needle is too rusty to break the skin?

Dude IS a fricken turtle.

Off the top of my head, I can't really think of one I'd blame him for.

I know he didn't cost us a playoff game. In fact, that was one of his better games ironically.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4232/samson-satele

Free agent C Samson Satele was arrested in Honolulu, Hawaii on disorderly conduct charges early Saturday morning.
Oakland's starting center the past three seasons, Satele is a Hawaii native. Not expected back with the Raiders, Satele graded out as the league's 18th best center in 2011 by Pro Football Focus. He has yet to line up a visit in a free agent market unusually ripe with centers, however, and getting arrested won't help his cause

Holding nullifies 1st down and moves chiefs inside the 10 yard line on 2 minute drive when we are down by 4 points (don't remember which game)

Hell, he's had crucial holding penalties in several games that really hurt iirc

one game he sort of just freaked out and almost had to be physically removed from game when he screwed up several times in a short time frame

Chiefs had to waste a timeout because he didn't know the play or snap count?

When you kill multiple drives a game that generally ends up in losing points. A long time ago Vermiel talked about the fact that teams that won games had X amount of drives. Well when you have 1 guy killing the ****ing offense (outside of Cassel) over and over again, that costs you drives.

This thread was full of classics.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...rry+richardson

My usual detractors are in there. Making complete fools of themselves. You'd think at some point people would respect that I know a thing or two about this ****ing game.

:(

He's got such a kickass name.

Ah, yes. Wasn't that the Raiders game in 2010? Week 17?

It's really not one play or two. It's the fact that his protection disablility constantly handcuffed our O and killed many promising drives. As a whole I bet Richardson's play alone has accounted for more than a couple of games we could have won and didn't.

I imagine he had a negative effect on our offensive game planning every week.

Quit pimping dog$#it overhyped corners and combine heroes and we might...

I don't really have any doubt that Richardson alone cost us some games. He killed tons of drives with penalties, false starts, holding, and flat out getting his ass WHIPPED on a weekly basis. The guy never improved one ****ing iota the entire time he was here, or as a starter. He was beyond dreadful.

The Winston signing is worth celebrating because his play alone will elevate the offense. Even if Cassel is still the starter, the running game will benefit highly from the addition. And if Quinn can unseat Cassel the offense should be several notches better.

Chiefs score big with Winston signing
March, 17, 2012
7:20PM ET
By Bill Williamson

Agreeing upon a contract with the former Houston right tackle is a big move by the Chiefs. Winston solidifies a real weak spot in Kansas City.

The Chiefs have added running back Peyton Hillis, tight end Kevin Boss, cornerback Stanford Routt and now Winston. This is arguably the biggest move.

Winston, who was a surprise salary-cap cut, was one of the better offensive linemen on the market. He replaces Barry Richardson, who was the weak link on the Chiefs’ line.

Winston is known as a strong run-blocker, so this will help an already-good running game. He had other trips planned, but the Chiefs kept him in town until a deal was finalized.

Former San Diego left tackle Marucs McNeill said Friday he will visit the Chiefs next week. It will be interesting to see if he still makes the trip. He could have been backup plan had Winston not signed there.

I doubt the Chiefs would replace left tackle Branden Albert with McNeill.

I think most of the Chiefs’ remaining moves in free agency may focus on depth. With Winston signed, expect the Chiefs to focus on either an inside linebacker or a defensive tackle with the No. 11 pick in the draft.

You gotta have me confused.

I've never been a workout warrior guy or combine guy. You're confusing me with Mecca, somehow.

And what overhyped corner have I pimped? JFC.

The addition of Luke Kuechly would be a solid move to play next to DJ. Who ever comes and and replaces Cassel would be getting one hell of a team.

My bad.

For some reason I had you confused with Voyager...

Kuechly isn't going to play next to DJ.

He plays the same position in this defense.

It's all good.

HEY GUYS WHAT IF THE CHIEFS DRAFTED ROCKY BERNARD INSTEAD OF RYAN SIMS?

I DON'T KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED?

I can't remember what voyager's conclusion was. It was something idiotic like we would have had a top 15 defense or some shit because then we could have spent our 1st rounder on something else

ROFL

Seriously. I don't know why people want Kuechly/Hightower when they will fill DJs role. They will be backups for like three years!

Hightower would ostensibly be an upgrade for Belcher; dude is more of a thumper.

While I really like Hightower and agree that right now he would be an upgrade...Im not sure it would be a smart move.

Jovan Belcher is our linebacker version of Brandon Carr.

Talented, Small school guy with loads of upside that after a couple years starting has shown to be able to do his specific job extremely well.

Im just hoping that Tanehill or Richardson are still on the board when we pick so that we can either add another blue chip player (in TRs case) or (in Tanehills case if Seattle still has a need at QB going into the draft) get really good value to a team looking to jump in front of Seattle to take a quarterback.

My best case scenario is us sliding back with the Bengals for them to take Trent and for us to be able to take Kontz or the safety from Alabama with our pick and add a couple more picks this year or a premium pick next year.

I think with the Bengals having two firsts this year, they would be willing to move up by using one of the firsts this year and next years first rounder to move up for a back like Richardson.

It will be a very interesting draft day, thats for sure.

Why would we draft a safety in the first, again?

Berry = RAWESOME
Lewis = Eh... okay. Adequate as long as he's surrounded by quality guys
Depth = Moldy poop

Lewis or our first rounder as safety depth this year would be incredible.

Again, we're drafting rich. We can go any position. Safety's one of our weaker spots in terms of depth. It makes sense to shore it up.

I disagree, Lewis is a good player, and yes the depth is moldy poop, but it is also the same on the o line and d line.

We have positions that need to be shored, I'm going to be pissed if we draft a safety.

we still need improvement at starting positions

Defense:
Lewis(FS)
Belcher(MLB)
Amon Gordon(NT)

Offense
Cassel(QB)
center (Hudson at LG or C?, is he ready?)
Fullback

It's not like we are pro bowl everywhere. Just have freedom and flexibility.

tbh we need depth just about everywhere

I'm cool with trading back, but I don't want to go safety in the first. I believe that Lewis is a solid starter, and depth can be acquired in later rounds.

I'd be cool with the plan to select Konz, as others have put forward.

Well that got answered quickly.

We're one interior lineman away from having a solid, solid group of fatties. And it doesn't need to be a first rounder, either; we could just draft/sign a guy for depth. On the defensive line I really don't know what's up with that. Pioli doesn't seem to concerned about our NT hole, but in any case the depth is already there. Gordon can swing depending on formation, and we're already two-deep at both DE positions.

Point is- we've got the backups. We don't have the backups at safety. I'd hate for our defense to take a huge hit like it did last year incase of injury. Shabby Pissonthetelly simply can NOT see action in our base defense next year at any point. That was atrocious.

Seriously? People think we need to replace Lewis? Dude has been great (IMHO) and has looked to be getting consistently better. I'm hoping we lock him up long term.

Lewis is a solid piece. You can't have hall of farmers everywhere, or you end up in a spot like this year where you have to let Carr go or spend $30+ million on your starting secondary.

Lewis is an average player he does some good things but Barron is a much better prospect who can do it all.

You cant have probowl players everywhere. Lewis and Belcher are solid players.

FYP.

There are tons of players like that on this team. Either way we're going to be drafting for depth this year, and that will push/unseat some of them. It's just the way it works.

If you want to gain depth at a position, you can't always just be satisfied with your starters. Sometimes you have to force them to step aside if they don't improve enough.

Look at the roster.

Anyone we pick will be at a position of not much need unless we reach big time.

Its not that I want to replace anyone...or think they need replacing...its strictly a value thing. In this passing league, we could stand for increased competition at safety.

If last year taught us anything its that we need depth/competition at safety.

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Reminds me of another safety we have on the roster

Agreed. I'll also say that pass rushers are increasingly valuable as well. Maybe blowing some money on Wimbley is going to happen. Or maybe we draft more passrushers for depth?

This is almost completely wrong.

We NEED improvement at QB and C (or Guard if Hudson moves to C, and I hope he doesn't).

It would be very nice to improve at NT and FB (but Hillis could play FB part of the time).

Lewis and Belcher are just fine. They are league average starters or close to it.


There is not a single position that absolutely must be addressed in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

Nose tackle.

With Seattle signing Flynn, that means its gonna be real tough to trade down.

Our only hope is Trent Richardson dropping to our pick and either the Bengals or Steelers moving up to take him.

Pittsburgh brought in Haley to balance the attack and Mendenhall might miss the whole year to injury.

The Bengals would surely LOVE to have a guy like Trent and they have lots of ammo to be able to move up with.

Gordon was serviceable last year. NEED would have been RT if we didn't sign Winston or CB if we didn't sign Routt. NT isn't a need. It's a pretty big WANT, though.

I think it would be real nice to take Chapman in the second or third round.

I think he is gonna be a real solid starter for somebody.

Shit, we can basically blow up a list of Alabamas starting defense...throw aa dart at it and take whoever the dart hits and have a good player.

That D was as stacked as any I can remember....going back to the old Miami days where Ray Lewis was behind Warren Sapp and "The Rock" was Sapps backup.

:thumb:

voyager owned

LOL. Say some team really wants Tannehill: Trade down get an extra 2nd, Draft Barron Round 1, Use both seconds to trade up get Upshaw or Hightower, then round 3 draft Chapman.

Gordon was ok at times last year but overall he graded out negatively according to PFF. He's not a guy I would want taking the majority of the snaps and theres better options in the draft.

Who is going to trade up for Tannehill?

The Colts need a QB. They're getting Luck.
The Skins need a QB. They're getting RGIII.
The Seahawks just signed Flynn.

The Chiefs and Dolphins both need QBs. If the Dolphins think the Chiefs want Tannehill, they'll trade ahead of us. If they don't, they'll stay put.

It would take something crazy like the Broncos moving Tebow to create a scenario where someone traded with us for Tannehill.

Sure. He's below average, but he's a legit NFL caliber NT backed up by Powe. It's less than ideal, but it's not a glaring need.

It's likely we'll address it in the first few rounds, but if someone slips in the draft and presents us with strong value, I'd want us to go for value over positional need at NT.

It was a joke but to answer your question: The Browns do and they have the 22nd pick and some extra picks from the Falcons.

Denver at 25

San Fran at 30.

I've read the scouting reports on Dontari Poe, and I could get behind him as our pick at #11. There's risk, but it sounds like he just needs to be coached up and disciplined. And really, isn't that true for most NT's coming out of college?

DeCastro would solidify the line for years to come, and safety depth would be helpful as well.

But at least for today, I'm hoping for Poe.

Tanehill will go either at 4 to Cleveland, 7 (someone jumping ahead of Miami) and if he falls to 8, Miami will take him.

I dont really think there is a chance he makes it to 11 anymore.

If he does, we should probably just take him....unless we really didnt like his interview we had with him at the combine and would rather trade down, adding another first or second rounder and take a guy like Brock or Foles.

Unless the Dolphins plan on taking a different position at #8 and then trading back into the 1st round for Tannehill.

This. New rookie cap means we won't have to give him a huge contract. No nose tackle worth taking? It's somewhat low risk/ high reward.

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I think Tannehill will be gone by 11.

at #11 there could be a decent wr available or hopefully a NT.
but it is nice to not have a critical "need" position for a change.
maybe a vet center in free agency or later in the draft.