That whole speech was just so goddamn self righteous. He's incredibly soft and completely full of shit.

100% cuck.

I like the inside the locker room bits Taylor brings about 5 times per season, and Keysor knows X's and O's well enough. Briscoe is an obnoxious douche who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

That podcast is good when they are actually talking about football (so only Nate and Seth), but when they are doing their ridiculous ad libs, annoying screechy voices, and going on non football tangents...yuck.

Man, that was painful to listen to.

They're up and down, for sure.

That was easily - EASILY - the worst show they've ever done even going back to their early Time's Ours day.

FFS the last 5 minutes were Brisco talking about his goddamn birdfeeder. It was horrible. If that were my introduction to that show, I'd have never even given it a 2nd chance.

If they insist on doing 2 episodes a week in the off-season and THAT'S the caliber of episode they're going to put out...don't.

Nate Taylor…goodness. This is insane.

“To hell and back”…uhh yeah. Being falsely accused of a horrendous crime and having your dream ripped away from you is about right. Dude’s life was almost ruined.

He kept saying that Araiza “technically wasn’t there”. Technically? All evidence says he wasn’t there. What’s this “technically” qualifier?

Just bad writing. Like when people use the word "literally" all the time.

In fairness Josh is probably the one who derails things the least. They like to joke about Seth being the problem, but when it's the worst it's always Nate.

It sounded like he was intentionally using the word to diminish the fact that Araiza wasn’t present when the alleged gang rape occurred.

I’m no attorney or judge, but I’d say someone not even being in the building during that is pretty ****ing important.

They’re fortunate that YouTube started hiding the number of thumbs down.

They’re getting destroyed in the comments though. Deservedly so.

I understand people have Chiefs fatigue, but this team is just so more likeable than them old Patriots teams. It's just full of personalities.

I had no idea what he was blathering on about. Does he know something the rest of us don't?

Because all I know is he wasn't there at the time this supposedly happened. Why would you throw shade on the guy?

I still generally like those guys, but I agree that that episode was...rough. More broadly, it feels like they've leaned into the slap-happy schtick a little too much this year (and since becoming OWG). Some episodes have just been hard to watch because they're just pure chaos. The one with Nate on radio row during Super Bowl week was a mess.

To be fair though, the dude was like the greatest college punter ever.

It sounds to me like they believe Araiza wasn’t charged but probably committed the crime anyway. So they’re still going to hold it against him.

I might be on board with that, except that all the evidence shows Araiza wasn’t even in the house. It’s not like there just wasn’t enough evidence. As far as we know, the evidence proves he’s innocent.

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that he did choose to bang this chick earlier in the evening. It was consensual. She was a minor (although she lied about her age).

Being an idiot and sticking your dick in a (underage) crazy rando in the back yard of a party is not comparable to the alleged/debunked gangrape. But it does show poor judgement.

Let's hope he's learned his lesson and is a better person for it.

And he’s a solid back-up kicker.

And he runs a 4.8… fake punt potential.

It was at a college party too, right? So there’s reason to assume she’d at least be 18.

It’s not like he met her at the Scholastic Book Fair or something.

They don't think he's a team player now. Because it looked legit at the time?

Seems like the poor judgement of a drunk college kid. The same poor judgement damned near every college freshman or sophomore has.

And lets be honest - the first thing freshman boys do is find and bang HS girls that will for once bang them. I don't know a single human male that was single and didn't throw a chip in that dip. I know a ton of guys at Rolla that didn't lose their cherry until St. Pat's day - when the HS girls flocked in.

This situation reminds me of a situation when I was in college.

I worked at a restaurant in college, one of the hostesses was a high school 17 year old and all of the guys thought she was hot but too young obviously.

Well one time I was out at the club and she was there with a fake ID. You have to be 21 to enter that place. She was like "hey bump! woohoo!' and I was like "what in the **** are you doing here? please leave" and she was like "**** you bump!" and so whenever I saw a guy hitting on her I made sure to inform them that she was in high school.

Also, the prosecutor decided not to charge anyone in a gang rape, saying the video and testimony showed she lied about her age and it appeared to be consensual.

I couldn't bring myself to look. Invariably a team like that gets their cult following and I was just sure the white knight brigade would flood the comments to tell them all how brave they were.

Glad to hear otherwise.

It won't mean anything.

Even reddit seems to be glad he's getting a shot even though it's with the Chiefs. Though we'll never know for sure, the evidence sure seems to suggest he didn't do anything wrong beyond being a horny college guy and not carding his hookup.

The cult followers either weren’t commenting at all (wisely) or posting something like “I love you guys, but I have to disagree because…”.

More casual listeners were brutal. Hopefully those comments haven’t been suppressed.

In between the radio row episode and this one was 55 minutes of shitting on Nick Bolton in between Nate openly mocking the draft nerds who love draft season and bother to inform themselves.

Ive listened to these guys since episode 1 of Times Ours but if they don't eat a great big shit sandwich on their next episode, I'm out.

This is 3 straight weeks of wholly unacceptable 'content'. It's been really, REALLY bad and honestly reflects poorly on all of KCSN if Tucker, Craig and Matt don't demand they fall on their swords next week.

If nothing else they have to stop doing this live. They clearly aren't equipped for it.

Gaining huge advantages in the pros where everyone is elite is very difficult. This means that acquiring players to gain as many edges as possible, no matter how slight, is very important. This is a good signing for the Chiefs.

I’d be astonished if he was the only player on the team guilty of this at some point

Tommy T. Thank you! You got 2 SB rings now get paid else where! BYE! :thumb:

Good bye Tommy Townsend and hello Matt Araiza :thumb:

Here is what we are getting for the future minus T. Townsend who reaches for $$$$$ Oh he tackles too?

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I just had a weird hallucination as I was scrolling this thread that fans of a team that always makes deep runs in the playoffs, who lived through the kicker who shall remain nameless, and a bunch of other playoff kicking mishaps, were considering the idea of getting rid of one of the most clutch postseason kickers of all time to save a few bucks.

I need to lie down now until the swamp vapors pass.

this team next year is going to be like the globetrotters against the generals...

the stars are aligned :D

Even ultra-woke Around the Horn was supportive of Araiza getting another chance.

I agree with the other posters about Times Ours/Only Weird games. I used to love that show, and still really like all those guys as they seem like good dudes. But the signal to noise ratio has gotten worse and worse. One 45 minute show a week in the off-season would be enough.

They need to learn that a little goes a long way on stuff like Seth getting sidetracked, laughing at each other w/o saying anything, Nate's bits where no one knows where he's going and it just goes on and on and on, etc.

And wtf Brisco, leave Bolton alone. The dude's a great player. Remember when you were apoplectic about us letting Bashaud Breeland go? And Fenton to a lesser degree? Looks like the team knew what they were doing. I trust the coaches if they tell us Bolton is doing a ton of little things that set the other players up for success.

Better than a three year period!

That’s pretty much it. “Well, there are questions still…”

What ****ing questions? The guy was cleared.

‘The DA said that video showed Ariaza wasn’t there when these events happened so technically he was cleared but still…”

Really?!?

How about this: “A bank teller sued Nate Taylor for emotional distress and putting a gun in her face when he robbed the bank with Chiefsaholic. The US Attorney’s office declined to prosecute because video of the robbery showed he was not there at the time so Nate Taylor has technically been cleared but questions remain.”


They also complained that this woman’s lawyer said they dropped the case because she couldn’t afford the legal fees for the counter-suit. That is a load of crap. Representing her on the counter-suit is part and parcel of representing her as a plaintiff. It’s covered by the contingency. The lawyer will keep track of fees related to that for purposes of damages if she wins the lawsuit but you don’t drop the case because of that. You drop the case because it’s a dead-bang loser and you know it. You use the “legal fees” excuse tags a way to cover your ass.

The latest episode really pissed me off. They ask how KC fans are supposed to feel when Araiza booms a punt that pins an opposing team deep in their territory? I’m going to feel great that our team can avail themselves of his services after he was falsely accused of a crime, after he’s been to hell and back.

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Since he's exonerated, it gives us the excuse to use this dandy when Araiza punts

Yep. As someone who lived through He who shall not be ****ing named, I agree with this. Butker is money, pay the man.

Butker can’t never leave, he’s almost as dangerous as Hill was for us. The fact he can consistently make 55+ is a difference maker

Given the egregious history concerning Punt God, CP, and me, I'll just pop in and say good signing and leave it at that. :)

If nothing else the commentary on the video motivates me to tune in to the next episode to see if there is a mea culpa, or to find out what the guy with an actual law degree has to say about all of it.

Then I'm probably done listening to them at least until football season starts again.

People please, we have Buttkicker and now Matt Ariaza? Really? This is HAPPENING! Accept it! We just got better on special teams for the win!

:evil:

A Patrick Mahomes led Chiefs team is like a singularity in space and there's no escape for the opposition. The only thing they can do is put the head between their legs and kiss their asses goodbye.

I doubt we got better. Tommy T was the ****ing man, especially in the most recent Superbowl.

Have you watched the highlights?

What do you think is unlikely to translate?

(We can even put aside the fact that the real trade off is Araiza + 3mm/4mm of cap room per over the next 4yrs vs Townsend.)

So now we have Punt God & QB God and TE God


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And Kicker God. Butker is nails.

Umm... he was our starting punter, I'll give him that.

The man? No. Not at all. Not even close. No.

No.

He should have kept his defamation suit, but I get it. He wants to get this behind him as quick as possible so he can earn money to play football.

There is a real possibility Ariaza is already a Top 3 punter in the league...right now. Even if he is SLIGHTLY worse than Townsend it's a great way to save money. You don't get to be called punt god for nothing.

The only thing you worry about is holding kicks for Butker. Assuming the Chiefs are confident in his ability to do that well.

Pat McAfee learned how to do it in a summer. I'm pretty sure this guy can.

This guy is a great punter. Tommy had a great SB moment but he was
Wad bottom half in 23.

I think KC metro & pod listeners deserve better. These guys were lucky to be in the right place right time, riding a massive wave. I always felt they relied on Twitter too much initially for content. They just don’t get or understand their audience… it’s not a bunch of dudes like themselves. I’ve listened intermittently over the last year… clinching my teeth, never lasting the entire show. I was hoping they would get better over time. I read Nate’s in-season Athletic work, it’s fine, but when he’s opining… I don’t care. Guess this is as good as gets in flyover land?

Everyone has a different opinion but I feel like Seth carries that show. Nate the insider has very little quality insider info imo. Last year he said theres absolutely no way Orlando Brown would walk. Its purely just him speculating that the Chiefs were going to run back the super bowl roster. The chiefs not only didn't bring him back but drew a firm line in the sand and were comfortable signing a late offseason tackle to replace him.

Seth carries the show imo. He's not a 10/10 but he's willing to admit hes wrong and that he fan boys for some players. Another quality host with actual football back ground would probably go a long way. A show with Craig Stout, Seth and one other person with some knowledge and the ability to move them along would probably be pretty damn good. Both of those guys will readily admit they don't know it all and that its a hobby but are willing to learn.

Brisco just irratates me because he knows jack shit about football but will just take a hard stand on stupid shit like a radio host does.

Taking on rehab projects is an Andy thing. Most recently Toney. Reid took on Michael Vick(I don't recall the Karen shit storm, but wow). Sure Vick worked out for him, it was a huge risk. I'd say very Christian move, but that's a shit typhoon

Yeah - I really don't understand this "Townsend was a great punter" stuff.

He was an average punter who had one great year. He may have another great year at some point soon but in the end, his 4 year track record shows 3 mediocre years (including his most recent one) and one excellent one. Sure looks like the excellent one is the outlier, no?

He's...fine. He's no sort of problem at the position and not a genuine asset either. He's a JAG. He's as replaceable as they get. And for all the "Oh my god, can Araiza hold!?!?" stuff, people were WRECKING Townsends holding until he got one damn high snap down in a SB. He's as likely as not to duff the next one.

There's just no reason at all to bemoan the loss of Tommy Townsend and I was hoping they'd let him walk this off-season before we signed Araiza. Not because he's a liability, but because he's just not an asset and we were going to have to pay him as though he were.

Townsend is well on his way to being forgotten about. The same as 90% of other punters in the league.

Stout is the guy that carries that whole network, IMO.

He's legit. He knows his shit. He's the only one of any of them I actually learn from. Seth will show me stuff I occasionally miss because he's good at video clipping and he's articulate. So he'll see something I overlooked and mention it. So he brings things to my attention.

Stout, OTOH, will flat out teach me things I didn't know or understand.

This is why I love CP. Where else can I find a 20 page thread on a punter?

Brisco ruins the whole thing for me. He's a smug, self righteous douche who has no real value to the show and doesn't even seem to take a fact based stance on much of anything. His arguments on everything come from his feelings and not any facts or actual analysis. The worst part is I can almost tolerate Jason Anderson on their radio show but Brisco makes it a complete train wreck.

Such a Veachy move!

Is it just me or is Matt Lane pretty tough to listen to?

Heavily agree. Stout when he's on with DJ or Devito is even better. I'd like Seth in the mix there.

I dont listen locally. To me they are still better than Ryan and Dan on RGR.

Agree Stout is the best. Matty Lane also has some good stuff from time to time.

I really like AHPKC. They don't do deep play analysis like the Lab, but come up with some pretty good stats, and are just really entertaining and professional imo. I always feel like I'm in good hands with them, whereas I never know when OWG is going to go completely off the rails.

Personally can't stand AHPKC. Maybe I need to give them another try.

Two Bills Drive.

You really need to adjust your viewed posts per page.

User CP/edit options/thread display options/number of posts to show per page.

The max is 80.

You're welcome.

I like to keep is small so the thread seems bigger. This is not compensating.

AHPKC is almost a different genre from all these others to me. The other podcasts seem like they're trying to come across as experts of one sort or another. The AHPKC guys are unapologetically just fans. They pay a little closer attention and do a little more homework than the masses. They're generally PRETTY rational, and they have their pulse on the fanbase to know what people are interested in discussing. But beyond that, it's about what I'd expect if we took a couple of our more astute CP posters and put a microphone in front of them.

Whether you find value in that is the question. I generally find them to be an easy listen.

I did that a while ago and changed it back. Just prefer it with less posts per page.

Townsend may have cost us $6 million. We save $5 M cap space and get a potentially better punter. Great move.

Yeah, I tried to give them a listen a couple times and I'm just sitting there like "who are these dildoes and why should I give a shit what they have to say?"

Eh.

Fair enough. Personally if I'm perusing a long thread I'd rather click five times instead of 20.

I gave them a try when they came to KCSN. I liked them at first. Then when the playoffs rolled around I realized they don't really talk X's and O's, they just break down statistics. So they for both the Ravens and 49ers games, they were raining doom and gloom about how much better those teams were statistically. They don't claim to be experts (hence Amateur Hour) but damn that was depressing.

Meanwhile the lab guys are looking at matchups and schemes and seeing specific places the Chiefs could take advantage. They see where the path to victory is, acknowledge the statistics, but point to what built those statistics.

And yet you're here on CP...

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Yeah this is why I like them. Sometimes you just want to revel in the game with other fans. By their own admission they're more of a review show than a preview show.

Their shows are usually about 45 minutes, which is about what OWG would be if you just took the content and stripped out all the grab-assery.

They're also the ones who looked at team DVOA in Tom Brady's championship seasons with the Pats, and found it wasn't correlated much at all with the Patriot's top regular season DVOA over those 17 years. I thought that was really interesting.

Until we get our offense "CRUISING AGAIN" you pay the man, PERIOD!!

Honestly, I usually start with Last Page and if I'm still interested, then I click back a page or two. Don't have the time to read as much as I might otherwise.

Interestingly, looks like Brisco is leaving 810.

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