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Why Not? 08-11-2023 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17052423)
I knew Wainwright was struggling but I hadn't seen him pitch. Dude looks completely cooked. I mean completely. Can't locate, can't get swings and misses, everything's hard hit. 8.78 ERA. Atrocious.

The pitch he threw that Bobby hit out has no business being seen in a major league game. Anyone with arms would've hit that to the moon.

MAG 08-11-2023 07:51 PM

Lose some damn weight, Salvy. You look in pain running the bases.

ChiefsCountry 08-11-2023 09:10 PM

Royals win!

duncan_idaho 08-12-2023 02:54 AM

***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread***
 
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17051725)
Because you are always trying to maximize value. If you have two MLB starting shortstops then you have value you are not able to achieve whereas trading for other assets you may be able to realize such value.


Are they getting equivalent value back, though?

I mean, if a team like the Dodgers wants to send someone like Bobby Miller for Garcia in a direct exchange, maybe something like that would work.

Otherwise, a guy who plays GG-caliber defense at 3B and is a productive offensive player who can run and hit at the top of a lineup is probably a 3-4 win type of guy. Sure, he might hit for less power than you’d typically see at 3B, but KC is also going to have more power at SS than average.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Witt’s defense has improved so much with strong defenders on both sides of him in Garcia and Massey, either.

Long-term, the Royals best outcome is if Garcia continues to be a viable hitter and so does Massey. Even if Pratto doesn’t stick at 1B, an IF of Garcia, Witt, Massey, and Pasquantino offers something to dream on.

nychief 08-12-2023 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MAG (Post 17052496)
Lose some damn weight, Salvy. You look in pain running the bases.

Frankenstein out there.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17051651)
If Bobby is entrenched in SS by this org then I see no reason to keep Garcia around. Hes a plus SS and is more valuable to any other team other than the Royals. May want to consider trading him. You need your 3B be a power guy if you are going to have a good team and if you think SS is Bobbys indefinitely u are just wasting Garcias talents at 3B

You are just so stupid it's unbelievable. You're not wasting his talent. He's a GG caliber 3B, but you don't know for sure that'd translate to him playing at BWJ's level at SS.

BWillie 08-12-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17052931)
You are just so stupid it's unbelievable. You're not wasting his talent. He's a GG caliber 3B, but you don't know for sure that'd translate to him playing at BWJ's level at SS.

Do you think Jeff Passan is stupid? He presented the argument the other day and it made some sense.

Ocotillo 08-12-2023 02:04 PM

Tooled up prospect was once No. 15 on the 2021 Baseball Prospectus' top 100 list. His stock has fallen due to off field issues that kept him out due to Visa problems, but he's still only 22. His OPS was .839 this year after not playing in an official game from 2020-22.

He would be the Royals' top prospect if the organization got him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Diamondbacks Designate Kristian Robinson For Assignment <a href="https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe">https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe</a> <a href="https://t.co/PT2mauBgEp">pic.twitter.com/PT2mauBgEp</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690451129383923712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cabletech94 08-12-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17053175)
Tooled[SIZE="7"][/SIZE] up prospect was once No. 15 on the 2021 Baseball Prospectus' top 100 list. His stock has fallen due to off field issues that kept him out due to Visa problems, but he's still only 22. His OPS was .839 this year after not playing in an official game from 2020-22.

He would be the Royals' top prospect if the organization got him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Diamondbacks Designate Kristian Robinson For Assignment <a href="https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe">https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe</a> <a href="https://t.co/PT2mauBgEp">pic.twitter.com/PT2mauBgEp</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690451129383923712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


DO IT VEATCH!!!!!!

dlphg9 08-12-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17053044)
Do you think Jeff Passan is stupid? He presented the argument the other day and it made some sense.

Dude about got killed by a tree, so yeah I think he's stupid

KCUnited 08-12-2023 02:28 PM

So did Yost and he’s going into the Royals HoF

tk13 08-12-2023 02:37 PM

Nicky Lopez basically hadn't played since the Braves traded for him. Today was actually the first time they let him hit and he probably had the best game of his career.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nicky Lopez pitched a scoreless 9th after going 4-for-6 with a homer and 5 RBI.<br><br>Unicorn <a href="https://t.co/FZJhH8y1eP">pic.twitter.com/FZJhH8y1eP</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1690461727916179457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

nychief 08-12-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17053209)
Nicky Lopez basically hadn't played since the Braves traded for him. Today was actually the first time they let him hit and he probably had the best game of his career.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nicky Lopez pitched a scoreless 9th after going 4-for-6 with a homer and 5 RBI.<br><br>Unicorn <a href="https://t.co/FZJhH8y1eP">pic.twitter.com/FZJhH8y1eP</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1690461727916179457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



They should put JJ shrugging about the return on Nicky on his ****ing headstone. Such apathy. Such incompetence.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17053175)
Tooled up prospect was once No. 15 on the 2021 Baseball Prospectus' top 100 list. His stock has fallen due to off field issues that kept him out due to Visa problems, but he's still only 22. His OPS was .839 this year after not playing in an official game from 2020-22.

He would be the Royals' top prospect if the organization got him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Diamondbacks Designate Kristian Robinson For Assignment <a href="https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe">https://t.co/rbHxN0dOCe</a> <a href="https://t.co/PT2mauBgEp">pic.twitter.com/PT2mauBgEp</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690451129383923712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did he get those issues taken care of? Why'd he get DFA:d?

Ocotillo 08-12-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17053228)
Did he get those issues taken care of? Why'd he get DFA:d?

Beat writers haven't said why.

Speculation here, but here's what I think:

1. Robinson had another screw up (it could even be internally) and the Diamondbacks had enough. His last transaction was getting sent back to the rookie Arizona Complex League, which makes you wonder.

2. The D-Backs are in the pennant race and thought they could no longer keep him protected on their 40-man roster. He's played in the low minors this year. They have their share of young, athletic outfielders, too. He's also comes with some risk, 30% strikeout rate at both Single-A levels. But he also has a double digit walk rate, 70 grade power on Fangraphs and had 7 HR/18 SB in 43 games.

If he's not a total **** up, I think he's worth the shot. His numbers show promise for a guy who hadn't played in an official game since 2019.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17053235)
Beat writers haven't said why.

Speculation here, but here's what I think:

1. Robinson had another screw up (it could even be internally) and the Diamondbacks had enough. His last transaction was getting sent back to the rookie Arizona Complex League, which makes you wonder.

2. The D-Backs are in the pennant race and thought they could no longer keep him protected on their 40-man roster. He's played in the low minors this year. They have their share of young, athletic outfielders, too. He's also comes with some risk, 30% strikeout rate at both Single-A levels. But he also has a double digit walk rate, 70 grade power on Fangraphs and had 7 HR/18 SB in 43 games.

If he's not a total **** up, I think he's worth the shot. His numbers show promise for a guy who hadn't played in an official game since 2019.


What type of issues was he having? Like being a shit head or what? I guess I could read the article, but I'll just make you work lol

Ocotillo 08-12-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17053248)
What type of issues was he having? Like being a shit head or what? I guess I could read the article, but I'll just make you work lol

From MLB Trade Rumors:

His career has been in limbo for the past few years for legal reasons. Robinson pled guilty to what was initially a felony assault charge stemming from an April 2020 incident with a law enforcement officer. (Zach Buchanan of the Athletic wrote in 2021 that Robinson said he’d been amidst a mental health crisis at the time.) As part of the plea agreement, Robinson’s charge was to be reduced to a misdemeanor if he successfully completed 18 months of probation without incident. In the interim, having a felony on his record prevented him from renewing a work visa that would allow him to continue to participate in minor league games. Robinson had been permitted to partake in extended Spring Training workouts but could not play in official games.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17053198)
So did Yost and he’s going into the Royals HoF

Yost fell out of tree and was 60+ years old. Passan had a branch crush him lol. Yost almost killed himself, not a tree.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17053250)
From MLB Trade Rumors:

His career has been in limbo for the past few years for legal reasons. Robinson pled guilty to what was initially a felony assault charge stemming from an April 2020 incident with a law enforcement officer. (Zach Buchanan of the Athletic wrote in 2021 that Robinson said he’d been amidst a mental health crisis at the time.) As part of the plea agreement, Robinson’s charge was to be reduced to a misdemeanor if he successfully completed 18 months of probation without incident. In the interim, having a felony on his record prevented him from renewing a work visa that would allow him to continue to participate in minor league games. Robinson had been permitted to partake in extended Spring Training workouts but could not play in official games.

That makes sense. 100% take a shot on this dude, JJ!

Ocotillo 08-12-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17053254)
That makes sense. 100% take a shot on this dude, JJ!

The D-Backs can't trade him because he's on the 40-man roster and it's past the trade deadline, so he's either going to get claimed by another club or be sent back down to the minors.

The Royals would technically have the No. 2 waiver priority behind the A's, but I think it reset and they went back to the bottom when they claimed Joe Barlow off waivers from the Rangers.

From MLB.com

If a club has already previously claimed a player on outright waivers in a given year, the club’s claiming priority will be moved to last among the 30 clubs.

dlphg9 08-12-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17053267)
The D-Backs can't trade him because he's on the 40-man roster and it's past the trade deadline, so he's either going to get claimed by another club or be sent back down to the minors.

The Royals would technically have the No. 2 waiver priority behind the A's, but I think it reset and they went back to the bottom when they claimed Joe Barlow off waivers from the Rangers.

From MLB.com

If a club has already previously claimed a player on outright waivers in a given year, the club’s claiming priority will be moved to last among the 30 clubs.

Shit that sucks ass.

Ocotillo 08-12-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17053274)
Shit that sucks ass.

I misread that. I'm sure Royals are still pretty high. I would bet every team or close to every team has claimed at least one player off waivers this season. I'd have to research it.

PurpleJesus28 08-12-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17053209)
Nicky Lopez basically hadn't played since the Braves traded for him. Today was actually the first time they let him hit and he probably had the best game of his career.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nicky Lopez pitched a scoreless 9th after going 4-for-6 with a homer and 5 RBI.<br><br>Unicorn <a href="https://t.co/FZJhH8y1eP">pic.twitter.com/FZJhH8y1eP</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1690461727916179457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is awesome,i'm glad for Nicky,i thought he's a good dude when he was here. It probably helps to hit with all that talent around him.

ChiefsCountry 08-12-2023 05:56 PM

Cuas trade had been a win

dlphg9 08-12-2023 11:07 PM

****ing Dayton Moore's shitty shitty pitchers. Frank Mozzicato is now 20 and getting absolutely shellacked in high A, so far with a 11.72 ERA in 5 starts. Ben Kudrna hasn't been as awful (6.27 ERA), but he's just getting worse and worse.

Just amazing to me the amount of draft picks that stupid mother****er used on pitchers and our cupboard is absolutely bare. The guy just had no ****ing clue what he was doing when he came to drafting and developing pitchers. So many issues from prospects in the minors with how they were being handled. Thank God that idiot is gone.

Ocotillo 08-13-2023 12:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals Claim Bubba Thompson, Option Edward Olivares <a href="https://t.co/EqhxbodG66">https://t.co/EqhxbodG66</a> <a href="https://t.co/nVxFe3JUpq">pic.twitter.com/nVxFe3JUpq</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690791493236133888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 08-13-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17054542)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals Claim Bubba Thompson, Option Edward Olivares <a href="https://t.co/EqhxbodG66">https://t.co/EqhxbodG66</a> <a href="https://t.co/nVxFe3JUpq">pic.twitter.com/nVxFe3JUpq</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690791493236133888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good waiver claim. Former first round pick with speed, speed and speed.

BWillie 08-13-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17054562)
Good waiver claim. Former first round pick with speed, speed and speed.

I have not figured out a way to view his MiLB stats. No matter what browser I use I cannot get the MiLB per season stats to show up.

Ocotillo 08-13-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17054562)
Good waiver claim. Former first round pick with speed, speed and speed.

If he ever had BABIP fortune, he could lead the majors in steals. That's a huge if though.

Ocotillo 08-13-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17054609)
I have not figured out a way to view his MiLB stats. No matter what browser I use I cannot get the MiLB per season stats to show up.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=thomps000bub

dlphg9 08-13-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17054542)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals Claim Bubba Thompson, Option Edward Olivares <a href="https://t.co/EqhxbodG66">https://t.co/EqhxbodG66</a> <a href="https://t.co/nVxFe3JUpq">pic.twitter.com/nVxFe3JUpq</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1690791493236133888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Getting pretty tired of Olivares, honestly.

tk13 08-13-2023 02:00 PM

I didn't realize Olivares still had options. Gonna guess they want to see Velazquez more in the OF. Already a crowded OF with Waters, Melendez, Velazquez, Blanco and Isbel. Blanco can fly and Isbel plays great defense which might give them an edge if the other three guys can hit.

WhawhaWhat 08-13-2023 02:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 519 games with the Kansas City Royals, Nicky Lopez never had 5 RBI in a game.<br><br>In his first start with the Atlanta Braves, Nicky Lopez had 5 RBI.</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1690490141738237952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie Bunker 08-13-2023 02:31 PM

Lopez isn’t a trade I care about winning, losing, or how he does. I’m just glad he’s gone.

jerryaldini 08-13-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17054978)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 519 games with the Kansas City Royals, Nicky Lopez never had 5 RBI in a game.<br><br>In his first start with the Atlanta Braves, Nicky Lopez had 5 RBI.</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1690490141738237952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bitching about petty shit again.

Ocotillo 08-13-2023 04:55 PM

A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WhawhaWhat 08-13-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055213)
A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Very Florida of him.

poolboy 08-13-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17054978)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 519 games with the Kansas City Royals, Nicky Lopez never had 5 RBI in a game.<br><br>In his first start with the Atlanta Braves, Nicky Lopez had 5 RBI.</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1690490141738237952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

good for Nicky..I dont hate em

dlphg9 08-13-2023 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055213)
A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****ing yuck. This is good for BWJ though. If Franco were to miss some time and become ineligible for the Gold Glove at SS, then Witt has a decent shot at winning it.

dlphg9 08-13-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055213)
A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17055202)
Bitching about petty shit again.

Rany has been a bitch ever since that trade. I can't remember if it was the Grienke or the James Shields one.

WhawhaWhat 08-13-2023 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17055288)
Rany has been a bitch ever since that trade. I can't remember if it was the Grienke or the James Shields one.

He was all for the Greinke trade but did not like the Shields trade based on how much they gave up. He loved Wil Myers. He did admit he was wrong later on though.

BWillie 08-13-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055213)
A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit these age of consent laws are so creepy, even in some developed countries.

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankin...nt-by-country/

jerryaldini 08-13-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055213)
A lot of rumblings about the Rays' Wander Franco dating a 14-year-old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rays Manager Kevin Cash says Wander Franco&#39;s day off was just a day off. No other reason for him not playing today. <a href="https://t.co/UJfrVRknfY">pic.twitter.com/UJfrVRknfY</a></p>&mdash; David Schiele WTSP (@Deacon_Schiele) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deacon_Schiele/status/1690828578236063744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I guess Elvis did something like that, in the 1950s. Will be interesting to see how MLB thinks about an appropriate punishment.

Mecca 08-13-2023 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17055382)
Holy shit these age of consent laws are so creepy, even in some developed countries.

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankin...nt-by-country/

Did you just now realize this?

BWillie 08-13-2023 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17055426)
Did you just now realize this?

Correct.

Ocotillo 08-13-2023 10:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB is looking into the social media posts and has yet to verify the information. This early in the process, without confirmed facts, Franco could be placed on the restricted list or administrative leave. The Rays, when asked about Franco not being on the plane, declined comment.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1690928261646176256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 08-14-2023 07:13 AM

That's not what playing ball in the minor leagues means, Franco.

dlphg9 08-14-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17055287)
****ing yuck. This is good for BWJ though. If Franco were to miss some time and become ineligible for the Gold Glove at SS, then Witt has a decent shot at winning it.

Scratch that. He's already eligible I believe.

RockChalk 08-14-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17055676)
Scratch that. He's already eligible I believe.

If this dude has been with a 14 year old, no baseball writer is going to vote him in for GG.

Anyone know more to this story?

Tylerthigpen!1! 08-14-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17055709)
If this dude has been with a 14 year old, no baseball writer is going to vote him in for GG.

Anyone know more to this story?

My quick perusing of Reddit suggested this sounds more scandalous than it actually is.
1. Wander was 22 at the time
2. The girl and her mother told Wander she was 18
3. Girl/Mom tried to blackmail Wander 200k and he refused

WhawhaWhat 08-14-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 17055791)
My quick perusing of Reddit suggested this sounds more scandalous than it actually is.
1. Wander was 22 at the time
2. The girl and her mother told Wander she was 18
3. Girl/Mom tried to blackmail Wander 200k and he refused

There's pictures out there of him kissing the girl. Those are going to be hard to get away from.

I hope he kept the text receipts of them admitting to lying about her age.

Ocotillo 08-14-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17055709)
If this dude has been with a 14 year old, no baseball writer is going to vote him in for GG.

Managers and team coaches vote for the Gold Glove, not the writers.

Ocotillo 08-14-2023 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 17055791)
My quick perusing of Reddit suggested this sounds more scandalous than it actually is.
1. Wander was 22 at the time
2. The girl and her mother told Wander she was 18
3. Girl/Mom tried to blackmail Wander 200k and he refused

She apparently has a baby.

She has pictures of herself drinking vodka and driving.

She also has dozens of Dominican ballplayers in her social media circle including the Marlins' Eury Perez.

DJ's left nut 08-14-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17055805)
She apparently has a baby.

She has pictures of herself drinking vodka and driving.

She also has dozens of Dominican ballplayers in her social media circle including the Marlins' Eury Perez.

Yeah - this isn't really "Wander is a predator" thing as much as it's a cautionary tale about sticking your dick in crazy.

I mean ultimately the law is the law and the PR over it is gonna be awful. But from a strict character standpoint, I don't think it says much about Franco apart from the fact that at 22 yrs old he likes to sleep with chicks that sure outwardly appear to be college girls.

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17055818)
Yeah - this isn't really "Wander is a predator" thing as much as it's a cautionary tale about sticking your dick in crazy.

I mean ultimately the law is the law and the PR over it is gonna be awful. But from a strict character standpoint, I don't think it says much about Franco apart from the fact that at 22 yrs old he likes to sleep with chicks that sure outwardly appear to be college girls.

This sounds like the advice I gave my cousins when they went off to college last year. Told the boys be careful what you stick your dick in.

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 06:24 PM

Salvydong

DJ's left nut 08-14-2023 06:26 PM

Holy crap - the Athletics are SHOCKINGLY bad. Like when the Royals were 'led' by Ken Harvey and ESPN pretty much had a daily segment on awful things the Royals did - those teams were WAY better than this Oakland squad.

Cardinals just scored a run because the Oakland pitcher picked a guy off 1b and when the 1b threw to 2nd for the out, the SS and 2b ran into each other and nobody bothered to actually make a tag. Next batter hit a duck-snort to score the guy from 2b.

That's sub-little league.

dlphg9 08-14-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17055818)
Yeah - this isn't really "Wander is a predator" thing as much as it's a cautionary tale about sticking your dick in crazy.

I mean ultimately the law is the law and the PR over it is gonna be awful. But from a strict character standpoint, I don't think it says much about Franco apart from the fact that at 22 yrs old he likes to sleep with chicks that sure outwardly appear to be college girls.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/dbf8659a...f7f84ccb2a.pnj

I guess this is the girl. She definitely doesn't look 14, but to me she looks extremely young, but to a 22 year old I bet she looks well within the legal age.

****ing Reddit was talking like she looked like an extremely young girl, but they always over exaggerate that shit.

BWillie 08-14-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 17055791)
My quick perusing of Reddit suggested this sounds more scandalous than it actually is.
1. Wander was 22 at the time
2. The girl and her mother told Wander she was 18
3. Girl/Mom tried to blackmail Wander 200k and he refused

If he can prove it, should be exonerated

dlphg9 08-14-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1! (Post 17055791)
My quick perusing of Reddit suggested this sounds more scandalous than it actually is.
1. Wander was 22 at the time
2. The girl and her mother told Wander she was 18
3. Girl/Mom tried to blackmail Wander 200k and he refused

The mom should go to jail for pimping out her under age daughter.

Demonpenz 08-14-2023 07:13 PM

Angel misses another one

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 07:27 PM

Bob with the inside park dong

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 07:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Witt Jr sliding in for the inside the park home run. First of his career. Royals first inside the park HR since Whit Merrifield in 2019. <a href="https://t.co/tDIKUPC0Q1">pic.twitter.com/tDIKUPC0Q1</a></p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/1691260471993577472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

poolboy 08-14-2023 07:31 PM

those are way more fun than straight dongs
that slide was incredible

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 07:49 PM

Bases loaded and the Mariners bring in the Olathe kid

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 08:00 PM

Singer goes 6 2/3 no hitter tonight.

Ocotillo 08-14-2023 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17056831)
Singer goes 6 2/3 no hitter tonight.

It hasn't been done since Bret Saberhagen in 1991. I thought Quatraro would have needed to push Singer to 115-120 pitches if necessary. It would have been the highlight of the season and would have given the clubhouse a nice moment in a rough year.

BWillie 08-14-2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17056757)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Witt Jr sliding in for the inside the park home run. First of his career. Royals first inside the park HR since Whit Merrifield in 2019. <a href="https://t.co/tDIKUPC0Q1">pic.twitter.com/tDIKUPC0Q1</a></p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/1691260471993577472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

More.

I want to see the whole thing got damn it

BWillie 08-14-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17056831)
Singer goes 6 2/3 no hitter tonight.

If you plan to resign Bobby and start trying, then its time to lock up Singer.

WhawhaWhat 08-14-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17055818)
Yeah - this isn't really "Wander is a predator" thing as much as it's a cautionary tale about sticking your dick in crazy.

I mean ultimately the law is the law and the PR over it is gonna be awful. But from a strict character standpoint, I don't think it says much about Franco apart from the fact that at 22 yrs old he likes to sleep with chicks that sure outwardly appear to be college girls.

Uh oh.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Attorney General of the Dominican Republic says that there is a complaint filed by a minor against Wander Franco.<br><br>According to the Attorney General of the DR, it&#39;s another young woman, not the one on social media, per <a href="https://twitter.com/DiarioLibre?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DiarioLibre</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/AlertasMundial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlertasMundial</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Og1AnsMwxn">https://t.co/Og1AnsMwxn</a></p>&mdash; Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) <a href="https://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1691267599168929792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 08:54 PM

****ing bullpen

siberian khatru 08-14-2023 08:56 PM

Royals blow a 5-0 lead after their starter goes 6.2 hitless innings

tk13 08-14-2023 09:14 PM

Royals win! Salvy and Blanco in the clutch.

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2023 09:14 PM

WALK OFF BUNT!!!!

KC_Connection 08-14-2023 09:17 PM

I never doubted them.

siberian khatru 08-14-2023 09:18 PM

WE’RE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, BASEBALL WITH THE ROYALS!

dlphg9 08-14-2023 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17056899)
Uh oh.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Attorney General of the Dominican Republic says that there is a complaint filed by a minor against Wander Franco.<br><br>According to the Attorney General of the DR, it&#39;s another young woman, not the one on social media, per <a href="https://twitter.com/DiarioLibre?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DiarioLibre</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/AlertasMundial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlertasMundial</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Og1AnsMwxn">https://t.co/Og1AnsMwxn</a></p>&mdash; Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) <a href="https://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1691267599168929792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmmm, age is pretty important and how long ago did this happen? If she was 14, then we have a predator on our hands.

dlphg9 08-14-2023 11:25 PM

Bobby Witt Jr. is ****ing insane. I think hes had probably the best stretch right now of any Royals I've seen. Never got to watch Brett.

dallaschiefsfan 08-15-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17057223)
Bobby Witt Jr. is ****ing insane. I think hes had probably the best stretch right now of any Royals I've seen. Never got to watch Brett.

Yeah...Brett would go on a tear and be an absolute, unstoppable monster as well. Same energy as Witt...super aggressive, but with less speed and fewer smiles. He'd have regular stretches in the 70's and 80's where pitchers just wouldn't pitch to him because he was constantly punishing everything.

myselff77 08-15-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17057223)
Bobby Witt Jr. is ****ing insane. I think hes had probably the best stretch right now of any Royals I've seen. Never got to watch Brett.

I can't imagine being a Royals fan having not gotten to witness George Brett. Anyone who was introduced to the Royals in the 1990's or 2000's and actually claimed them as their team really earned their fan card.


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