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Jenson71 02-03-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry (Post 6502881)
Exactly...the lawyers are making good jack over this POS dirtbag.
I hope his lawyer has f'n nightmares :grr:

His lawyer probably makes $50,000 and hates the guy. I don't see why you fault the lawyer whose duty is to defend his client with zeal. Law and due process aren't new developments in America that came with socialism. So **** off.

DaFace 02-03-2010 05:57 PM

I think I'll take a pass on this one. The description is enough for me.

Radar Chief 02-03-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6503015)
I think I'll take a pass on this one. The description is enough for me.

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6502540)
Thanks for all the comments....this is one I'm going to skip watching.

Understandable.
I didn't actually watch the embedded video either.
I've seen enough death, no need to seek it out here.

Boise_Chief 02-03-2010 06:31 PM

This is why we need to spend more on training for law enforcement. No way does this perp make it to his next b-day in Boise. I feel for the deputy but he shouldn't have been in law enforcement. His hesitancy to end it before he was put in danger cost him his life.

That said the perp shouldhave been dead within a year of capture. The legal system needs an enema.

Fritz88 02-03-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boise_Chief (Post 6503069)

That said the perp shouldhave been dead within a year of capture. The legal system needs an enema.

within a ****ing week.

bevischief 02-03-2010 06:40 PM

If I was a cop(or other law enforcement) I would shoot 1st and answer questions later in this day and age.

Bane 02-03-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6503078)
within a ****ing week.

I wish I was the guy that cuffed him.:bang:
He'd never made it to the car breathing.

Halfcan 02-03-2010 08:17 PM

wow that is just sad

Bane 02-03-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6503341)
wow that is just sad

I know.I wish I hadn't watched it now.:cuss:

Rausch 02-03-2010 10:24 PM

And people complain because cops use force at the drop of a hat...

suds79 02-03-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6503341)
wow that is just sad

Ugh that was really sad.

I mean hindsight being 20/20 you wish the officer would have done something different or opened fire when the man appeared to be going back in his truck for something. But I mean what can you do? You don't want to go over the line but at the same time you have to protect yourself. It's got to be a tough job.

Just sad to see that. Really, really was.

Norman Einstein 02-03-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 6502382)
Before I post the video my take is two-fold and split in that I think law enforcement officers are grossly underpaid and yet in this paticular video I was thinking what a dumbass cop,you've given fair warning,why not just shoot and wound this crazy bastard before he does something crazier.

I thought cops were trained to shoot to kill?

The description was enough for me, I haven't watched the video.

niblet 02-03-2010 11:14 PM

The question on everyone's mind is, why didn't he shoot him earlier? It's easy for us to ask but being in that moment is an entirely different thing. I imagine it's incredibly hard to to bring yourself to pull the trigger.

BIG K 02-03-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CTTCS_WLR (Post 6504085)
I thought cops were trained to shoot to kill?

The description was enough for me, I haven't watched the video.

Here lies the reason why not everyone can be in law enforcement. In my very first interview before I became a Sheriff, I was asked could I take someone else's life. It was obvious to me that the officer, peace be to his family, was not capable of taking anothers life. Strange behavior by people is normal but, as soon as he returned to his vehicle, I thought he was going to get a gun and I would have taken cover and pulled my weapon. (Don't bother with the argument that I wasn't in his shoes because I have been)

The officer took the step of asking the guy to drop the weapon, I would not have taken the time to ask. As an officer, if you see a weapon, the persons intent is implied and you cease to negotiate, period. To answer your question, we are trained to "stop" the agression. We train to 'shoot' center of mass, (the body, more defined as the chest area) if they stop and are still alive fine, if they die, oh well. He had a gun and the implied intent was to cause me harm or death, it would have been a justified shoot.

KCbroncoHATER 02-03-2010 11:31 PM

That happened to Trooper Brashear in Lee's Summit a few years ago. He pulled over a car on 470 and 281, less than 5 minutes from Troop A Headquarters. The driver shot him 9 times with a 9mm and he lived.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kv_uKgGX5k&feature=fvw

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