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DJ's left nut 12-21-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11968600)
Walterfootball.com has KC taking him in the 2nd round in his latest mock draft.

I wouldn't hate the pick, but I wouldn't love it either.

Brothers isn't going to be a differencemaker, IMO. He's going to be a good player but I think you can find a lot of that kind of player in the later rounds.

If Smith fell to us at the end of the 1st, I'd take him in the 1st before I'd take Brothers in the 2nd. I just think Smith has the ability to be an anchor on the defense and I don't quite see that ability with Brothers.

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11968625)
I wouldn't hate the pick, but I wouldn't love it either.

Brothers isn't going to be a differencemaker, IMO. He's going to be a good player but I think you can find a lot of that kind of player in the later rounds.

If Smith fell to us at the end of the 1st, I'd take him in the 1st before I'd take Brothers in the 2nd. I just think Smith has the ability to be an anchor on the defense and I don't quite see that ability with Brothers.

Jaylon Smith?

If Jaylon Smith fell to us.....I'd JIMP.

DaneMcCloud 12-21-2015 03:26 PM

I'd be surprised if the Chiefs chose a WR any higher than the 5th round. Albert Wilson has made strides this year and Conley has as well. I'd expect Conley, Wilson and Maclin so see most of the action next year and if the preseason was any indication, Da'Ron Brown will likely make the roster as well.

I could see them taking another Gronk-like TE and letting Harris, Parker and O'Shaunessey battle it out for the final roster spot/Practice squad but as a few others have mentioned, Right Tackle and Left Guard are the priorities, IMO, followed by another CB.

But I'm also confused as why the left guard of the future shouldn't be Mitch Morse. Fulton was very good at Center, Morse played Left Tackle in college and started out the season at right guard, so I'm just not sure why we haven't seen an offensive line combo of Fisher/Morse/Fulton/LDT/Reid.

It's kind of puzzling to me.

DJ's left nut 12-21-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11968640)
Jaylon Smith?

If Jaylon Smith fell to us.....I'd JIMP.

Yeah...I guess that's probably not going to happen. I hadn't really started following the draft stuff much and as I'm looking around, it looks like he's getting Kuechly treatment. He may not make it to the teens at this point.

Maybe Scooby Wright's injury will push him down a bit. He has a tendency to freelance a little too much but if you put him out there to learn from DJ for a season between Ford and Houston, the amount of athleticism in the LB corps would be virtually unparalleled.

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11968652)
Yeah...I guess that's probably not going to happen. I hadn't really started following the draft stuff much and as I'm looking around, it looks like he's getting Kuechly treatment. He may not make it to the teens at this point.

Maybe Scooby Wright's injury will push him down a bit. He has a tendency to freelance a little too much but if you put him out there to learn from DJ for a season between Ford and Houston, the amount of athleticism in the LB corps would be virtually unparalleled.

If Smith fell to the 12-15 range (highly doubtful).....I'd trade up for him. Sac doesn't think he's an ILB in a 3-4.....but I think he's wrong.

JohnnyHammersticks 12-21-2015 03:29 PM

Legitimate #2 & #3 WR's are huge needs for us next year, in my opinion. Arizona has 6 WRs better than anyone we have except for Maclin. Wilson may be the worst #2 WR in the NFL, and Conley might be the worst #3 WR.

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11968655)
Legitimate #2 & #3 WR's are huge needs for us next year, in my opinion. Arizona has 6 WRs better than anyone we have except for Maclin. Wilson may be the worst #2 WR in the NFL, and Conley might be the worst #3 WR.

ROFL


No.

DaneMcCloud 12-21-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11968652)
Yeah...I guess that's probably not going to happen. I hadn't really started following the draft stuff much and as I'm looking around, it looks like he's getting Kuechly treatment. He may not make it to the teens at this point

I wouldn't sleep on Justin March.

Apparently, he was a beast in training camp and looked good in preseason before injury.

JohnnyHammersticks 12-21-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11968658)
ROFL


No.


ROFL

Name a #2 WR who's worse than Wilson.

DJ's left nut 12-21-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11968654)
If Smith fell to the 12-15 range (highly doubtful).....I'd trade up for him. Sac doesn't think he's an ILB in a 3-4.....but I think he's wrong.

What's his beef? Too 'long'; afraid guards can get under him?

Man, I can't see anything in Smith's game to say he wouldn't excel in a 3-4. Sure, he may be a slightly more natural fit as a 4-3 WLB but I think the edge to his game and his willingness to go out there and lay a hit make him a very nice fit as the Mike in a 3-4 and his athleticism makes him a true 3-down backer.

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11968665)
ROFL

Name a #2 WR who's worse than Wilson.

Ravens - Marlon Brown
Carolina - Corey Brown
Cleveland - Taylor Gabriel
St. Louis - Kenny Britt
Tennessee - Harry Douglas

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11968667)
What's his beef? Too 'long'; afraid guards can get under him?

Man, I can't see anything in Smith's game to say he wouldn't excel in a 3-4. Sure, he may be a slightly more natural fit as a 4-3 WLB but I think the edge to his game and his willingness to go out there and lay a hit make him a very nice fit as the Mike in a 3-4 and his athleticism makes him a true 3-down backer.

Can't remember exactly. I'd have to find his post and quote it....but basically I think most of it is what you just said.

penbrook 12-21-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11968665)
ROFL

Name a #2 WR who's worse than Wilson.

Dwayne Bowe!

The Franchise 12-21-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11968678)
Dwayne Bowe!

He said #2 WRs....dipshit.

ToxSocks 12-21-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11968655)
Legitimate #2 & #3 WR's are huge needs for us next year, in my opinion. Arizona has 6 WRs better than anyone we have except for Maclin. Wilson may be the worst #2 WR in the NFL, and Conley might be the worst #3 WR.

They're serviceable. I honestly don't think the #2 and #3 matter so much, unless Maclin is injured. Smith is a one read QB. Even the announcers yesterday were talking about it, "If his 1st read is covered, he's looking to run", so guys like Wilson and Conley won't see many targets anyway unless it's drawn up like that.


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