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Imon Yourside 12-19-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16677766)
I particularly liked when the defender was flagged for getting shoved to the ground by a receiver.

I also don’t think Smith-Schuster’s “fumble” was legit. The ball didn’t pop loose until he hit the ground.

Loved that blindside block on the same play lolz give them the ball and 15 to kickstart the drive. Ye ole 14 point swing mateys!

Imon Yourside 12-19-2022 07:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just absolutely egregious of Juan Thornhill. I just can’t believe he would commit such a a terribly foul and disgusting act. <a href="https://t.co/5sBfM9K4St">pic.twitter.com/5sBfM9K4St</a></p>&mdash; Adam Kimberling (@adamkimbo) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamkimbo/status/1604571463658373120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS������<a href="https://t.co/sHxe6MIVg1">pic.twitter.com/sHxe6MIVg1</a></p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1604557009679966218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Imon Yourside 12-19-2022 07:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s so obvious <a href="https://t.co/XtuIovnhoy">pic.twitter.com/XtuIovnhoy</a></p>&mdash; BBQ Dom (@RealBBQDom) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBBQDom/status/1604589111729274881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THIS “illegal blindside block” called by Carl Cheffers has given the Texans the lead. This clown has decided too many important games. The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> MUST do something. <a href="https://t.co/NimDoBAvzT">pic.twitter.com/NimDoBAvzT</a></p>&mdash; Krown City King (@KrownCityKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrownCityKing/status/1604572232285491200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jettio 12-19-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16677817)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s so obvious <a href="https://t.co/XtuIovnhoy">pic.twitter.com/XtuIovnhoy</a></p>&mdash; BBQ Dom (@RealBBQDom) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBBQDom/status/1604589111729274881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THIS “illegal blindside block” called by Carl Cheffers has given the Texans the lead. This clown has decided too many important games. The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> MUST do something. <a href="https://t.co/NimDoBAvzT">pic.twitter.com/NimDoBAvzT</a></p>&mdash; Krown City King (@KrownCityKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrownCityKing/status/1604572232285491200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The blindside block was not made by the referee Cheffers, it was called by the side judge.

Punwit 12-19-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16677113)
Mahomes has a black daddy and will never get a fair shake on roughing the passer calls. That non-call was bullshit and it was disappointing that Trent Green said it was a good call because the only roughing the passer he knew was body weight. Except for Romo, every CBS non play-by-play guy always says the referees original call was great unless there is an overturn or a replay makes it clear that the call was wrong.

Don't know what McKinnon play you are talking about? who was the player called for the penalty?

I'm good with no call on the Pacheco losing helmet. There was no grabbing of the facemask. What call do you think they should have called? If it is not a clothes line tackle or a actual grabbing of the facemask cage or earhole, I don't think it is a penalty unless excessively violent.

The flag was against McKinnon on a Mahomes scramble and I haven't seen a replay of Pacheco getting his helmet ripped off but the dudes hands were at the front of his helmet and I don't think it's possible to remove his helmet that violently without using his facemask.

jettio 12-19-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Punwit (Post 16677966)
The flag was against McKinnon on a Mahomes scramble and I haven't seen a replay of Pacheco getting his helmet ripped off but the dudes hands were at the front of his helmet and I don't think it's possible to remove his helmet that violently without using his facemask.

I think the McKinnon call may be the JuJu fumble. Looks like a legal block because McKinnon's belt buckle was facing the end zone the Chiefs were attacking and not the one they were defending.

McKinnon did not use much force and the defender saw McKinnon before the contact and delivered a blow to McKinnon that knocked McKinnon down.

I could understand why a dumbass official that is on a dumbass crew would miss the call, but that McKinnon block on that play was not the type of block that the rule was intended to prevent.

Punwit 12-19-2022 09:54 AM

You are correct. I was wrong about which play it was.

Punwit 12-19-2022 09:59 AM

The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.

Eleazar 12-19-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Punwit (Post 16678015)
The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.

That crew sucks in general and throws way too many flags.

jettio 12-19-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Punwit (Post 16678015)
The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.

No doubt they sucked. Put as for extending drives on 3rd down penalties on passing plays. The Texans were playing that Lovie Smith Tampa 2 zone scheme and not using hands before the ball got there, they were trying to hit the intended receiver and cause incompletions or turnovers.

If the other team is not using hands on receivers and the officials are calling DBs using hands on receivers, change your technique and stop getting penalty calls.

It was poor officiating and it was one sided, but one sided on pass defense starts to become the Chiefs fault if they do not adjust for the way pass defense is being officiated.

Mecca 12-19-2022 10:15 AM

Carl Cheffers has a massive issue with Travis Kelce and likely the fan base after the Raider game.

You saw a ref crew make it personal yesterday.

penguinz 12-19-2022 10:21 AM

22% of Chiefs penalties have come in the two games Cheffers has called this season.

Meatloaf 12-19-2022 10:33 AM

If I was Clark, I would quietly "suggest" that Mr Cheffers never, ever again call a Chiefs game. End of story.

louie aguiar 12-19-2022 10:34 AM

NFL officiating is broken. Mahomes is the face of the NFL. They need to protect him. How does he not get that call?

Mecca 12-19-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16678066)
NFL officiating is broken. Mahomes is the face of the NFL. They need to protect him. How does he not get that call?

To be fair Mahomes is not very protected by any reffing crews. He doesn't get calls a lot of guys get.


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