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RealSNR 12-07-2024 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17844522)
get to know that WR you all hate

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Just dlphg actually.

dlphg9 12-08-2024 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17844664)
Just dlphg actually.

Don't hate him. Just hate how much he's used. He accomplishes the same stats if he plays 65% of the snaps or 25% of the snaps. I don't care what reasons or excuses people have there is not a single reason for him to be playing more than every single WR on the team.

RealSNR 12-08-2024 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17844770)
Don't hate him. Just hate how much he's used. He accomplishes the same stats if he plays 65% of the snaps or 25% of the snaps. I don't care what reasons or excuses people have there is not a single reason for him to be playing more than every single WR on the team.

You sure do bitch about him a lot.

The number of Justin Watson snaps on offense aren't close to being a contributing factor to our offense not resembling 2018-2022.

Give it a rest.

dlphg9 12-17-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17844802)
You sure do bitch about him a lot.

The number of Justin Watson snaps on offense aren't close to being a contributing factor to our offense not resembling 2018-2022.

Give it a rest.

Not gonna do that. Last 6 games

10 targets - 6 receptions - 53 yds - 1 TD - 240 snaps - averaging ~60% of the offensive snaps a game.

ThaVirus 12-17-2024 01:14 PM

I don’t hate this dude. He’s made some big catches these last couple years.

Definitely a spot we can look to upgrade, but he’s certainly no worse than a Skyy Moore or Kadarius Toney. Hell, he was better than MVS last year when you weigh in contracts.

Megatron96 12-17-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17863345)
I don’t hate this dude. He’s made some big catches these last couple years.

Definitely a spot we can look to upgrade, but he’s certainly no worse than a Skyy Moore or Kadarius Toney. Hell, he was better than MVS last year when you weigh in contracts.



Definitely better than Skyy/KT. At least in terms of being functional. Probably better than MVS.


He's just not a volume WR. Every time Andy's tried to get him to absorb more than 4-5 targets, his completion% rate drops to 50%. Basically, JWat is the best possible version of Skyy. The problem is, no team should realistically have even the best version of Skyy on the field 60+% of the time. If you do, something is broken with your offense.

Wallcrawler 12-17-2024 01:29 PM

Chiefs are playing 4D Chess, essentially hiding Dhop until the post season, trying to keep his trade compensation lower.

When Hollywood returns, assuming they don't treat him like a China doll, he should seriously eat into those reps, because he really needs game reps to get acclimated to playing in this offense.

But, Andy is a package guy. Mahomes clearly likes Watson, so he's not going to just vanish outright.

Dunerdr 12-17-2024 01:34 PM

Does hopkins snaps have to remain under 60% in the playoffs too or whatever the number is?

htismaqe 12-17-2024 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17863366)
Chiefs are playing 4D Chess, essentially hiding Dhop until the post season, trying to keep his trade compensation lower.

When Hollywood returns, assuming they don't treat him like a China doll, he should seriously eat into those reps, because he really needs game reps to get acclimated to playing in this offense.

But, Andy is a package guy. Mahomes clearly likes Watson, so he's not going to just vanish outright.

That's just the thing. It doesn't appear that anyone has ever eaten up his snap count. He played 494 snaps his first season here and over 500 both of the last two years. He had the 3rd most snaps for a WR in both 2022 and 2023. And he's 2nd this year.

Maybe it's more of an indictment of the other guys on the roster but the guy is getting way too many snaps proportionate to his targets and receptions. He just doesn't bring much to the table at all.

sedated 12-17-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17863368)
Does hopkins snaps have to remain under 60% in the playoffs too or whatever the number is?

Overall, regular season and playoffs

Dunerdr 12-17-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 17863416)
Overall, regular season and playoffs

**** it. Just donate the draft pick.

htismaqe 12-17-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17863419)
**** it. Just donate the draft pick.

No shit. The difference between a 4th and 5th isn't worth it.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17863412)
That's just the thing. It doesn't appear that anyone has ever eaten up his snap count. He played 494 snaps his first season here and over 500 both of the last two years. He had the 3rd most snaps for a WR in both 2022 and 2023. And he's 2nd this year.

Maybe it's more of an indictment of the other guys on the roster but the guy is getting way too many snaps proportionate to his targets and receptions. He just doesn't bring much to the table at all.

Mahomes and Andy Reid disagree vehemently with you. He's out there because they WANT him out there.

So much hate for a guy who does his job, runs the right route, blocks well and catches the ball when it comes his way.

In any case you won't have to worry about this much longer because Brown will eat into his snaps.

htismaqe 12-17-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17863431)
Mahomes and Andy Reid disagree vehemently with you. He's out there because they WANT him out there.

So much hate for a guy who does his job, runs the right route, blocks well and catches the ball when it comes his way.

In any case you won't have to worry about this much longer because Brown will eat into his snaps.

I don't hate him at all. I totally understand Andy wants him out there. I also understand that him getting 500 snaps a year in any offense is a sign there's a problem with WR depth.

dlphg9 12-17-2024 03:28 PM

I don't hate the guy. I just hate his usage.

He's literally been 2021 DeMarcus Robinson this year. It's pretty nuts how close their stats are.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/75e68ffb...9e664341c7.pnj

People hated D. Rob that year. They damn sure weren't posting highlights of him making a ****ing block lol.


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