What? Young QBs don't immediately excel because sometimes they find themselves in terrible situations? No ****ing way.

Don't be stupid. You're being way too impulsive and irrational.

Did you not enjoy our fantastically successful season considering we lost a whole bunch of starters to injury at the beginning of the year and were two blocked field goals away from a second consecutive division title after facing a very very difficult schedule?

If you want more of the same next year, it's not a very good idea to go with an unproven starter at QB. You're risking moral victories for us here, and it's not appreciated!

Repent for your transgressions against The Zorn

I see your Zorn and raise you Crennel and Daboll.

I think Daboll will be good. Cassel needs his ass chewed out constantly. Haley got kind of soft on him towards the end there and it showed.

I'm telling you.....you're going to see a different Quinn this season. And if I'm wrong.....I'll eat my words.

Just curious, what makes you say that?

Or, why do you feel that way?

So what is so special about Dabolls offense that might make the Quinn the ideal QB to run it other than already being familiar with it?

He'll actually be surrounded by talent and he won't be stuck behind Jesus.

... and he's pretty hot.

Sinking.......feeling.........




We are all really just grasping for any kind of hope right now. Quinn represents the 1st round QB we have always wanted, even if he is horrific.

God damn I hope you are right.

Sadly I think you are like most ND fans who can't think straight because their 3-leaf clover is stuck so far up their ass, it hits the brain.

But why would he fit Dabolls offense better than Cassel or Stanzi?

He won't, he will. I don't know.



He was drafted to be a franchise QB, which is something we have never had. That's why we are reaching like a midget at a urinal right now.

I guess....what is the emphasis in Daboll's offense? I mean he isn't a WCO guy...what is he?

Whatever Weis ran is what Quinn succeeded with.

Pioli promised to bring in competition for Cassel.


Quinn is competition. Peyton is not.

At least it wastn't Tebow. TYG!

He already knows the system.

You know, I was thinking the other day, and I said to myself,

what if.....this guy(Brady Quinn) ends up rejuvenating his career in KC. Suppose he lights it up, team starts winning and provides the long-term solution at QB that Chiefs fans have been craving for.

Then, Peyton on the other hand, plays 2-3 seasons with the Donkeys. Donkeys get a short term solution at QB(in Manning) and we get the long-term solution at QB(Brady Quinn)...The QB that they let go and was an afterthought there. That would be something huh?

Lastly, I like to dream. To bad my dreams don't come true with this stinkin franchise:deevee:....they never answer.

I'll need a bigger guarantee if I'm going to put any stock in this prediction.

Could you do something gross? Like eat a worm or something?

Quinn can throw the ball longer than 20 yards.

I love seeing some of the Cassel bashers using the same excuses for Quinn.

for me, looking at our QB situation from here the jury's still out on Quinn.

Pioli says Chiefs not done shopping for players
By ADAM TEICHER

Updated: 2012-03-20T02:54:50Z

Pioli says Chiefs not done shopping for players

IOWA CITY, Iowa -- The Chiefs added four new players the first week of free agency, and general manager Scott Pioli indicated Monday that they weren’t finished.

“We’re planning and hoping to continue to sign players,” Pioli said at the University of Iowa, where he and coach Romeo Crennel were part of a contingent of Chiefs officials attending the school’s pro day.

“We’re not done.”

The Chiefs were to visit Tuesday with Jerricho Cotchery, a former Jets and Steelers wide receiver. Cotchery, 29, had a career-high 82 receptions for the Jets in 2006 and 2007 but has been a reserve the last couple of seasons. He caught 16 passes for Pittsburgh last year.

After signing offensive tackle Eric Winston, quarterback Brady Quinn, running back Peyton Hillis and tight end Kevin Boss, the Chiefs have about $15 million of salary-cap room. They’ll have to save some of that for their eight draft picks. The Chiefs have their own pick in each of the seven rounds plus a seventh-round choice they received from New England in the trade that sent safety Jarrad Page to the Patriots.

If history holds, the Chiefs will also hold some money back in an attempt to sign offensive tackle Branden Albert and defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey to contract extensions. Both players are entering the final season of their contracts.

“We improved the team with the guys we added,” Crennel said. “They all play at a position of need. I think they all have something to prove as well. I think that will bode well for us.”

Quinn was drafted by the Browns in 2007 when Crennel was head coach. Quinn indicated his familiarity with Crennel was among the reasons he signed with the Chiefs.

Crennel said Matt Cassel would remain the starting quarterback.

“But we’ll take a look at (Quinn) and see where he is and what he brings to the table,” Crennel said. “We told him the best guys are going to play. If he’s the best guy, he plays.

“He gives us someone who’s lined up in a game and done it in the NFL at that position.”

Hillis joins Jamaal Charles and Dexter McCluster at running back. Crennel said the Chiefs would have no problem finding ample playing time for all three.

“He’s an all-purpose back,” Crennel said of Hillis. “He’s shown he can do everything. He can catch. He can run. He can block. We’ll use him by game plan. He might line up at fullback, he might line up at running back. There might be times where he’ll be in the backfield with Jamaal (Charles) or Dexter McCluster.”

While watching Iowa’s draft-eligible players run through drills, the Chiefs learned they’ll have to play twice against Peyton Manning next season. Manning on Monday told the Denver Broncos he will sign with them.

“It makes things tougher,” Crennel said. “I don’t know where he is with his injury situation, but it sounds like he can throw it. If he get used to his new situation quickly, he’ll be very effective like he has been his entire career.”

Crennel’s defenses have generally been able to frustrate Manning over the years. That includes Crennel’s time as defensive coordinator in New England, but also includes a 2010 game with the Chiefs.

“Some guy named Willie McGinest and some guy named Ty Law and some guy named Richard Seymour,” Crennel said, reeling off the names of his better Patriots defensive players when asked why he’s defended Manning well. “They’ve had a big part in it. We’ll have to see how these guys are able to do against him this time around.”


: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/19...#storylink=cpy

I'm less inclined to think anything of Brady Quinn other than his usefulness as a backup.

Still, it's a new QB on our roster, a former first round pick who played far below expectations on a shit team, and has at least demonstrated in college as well as the pros that he can throw an accurate pass beyond 20 yards.

I definitely welcome being pleasantly surprised by him come the regular season, but I'm not holding my breath at all.

I haven't seen anything in the media that suggests that Quinn will even get a fair shot on this team. He has pretty much been tagged as a backup already. I am worried that he won't even get a fair shot to compete, even if he might be better than Cassel.

i think Romeo will see to it that he plays if he gives the team a better chance at winning.

this is Crennel's second shot at being HC and he knows he better not blow it.

Cassel remaining the starter is exactly what I expected but still an utter buzzkill nonetheless. Despite being given years he's done absolutely nothing that explains the front office's faith or that in any way demonstrates that he deserves the job. And Quinn obviously wasn't brought in to fill any role other than making sure we don't run a QB like Palko out there ever again. And he hasn't really done anything at any point that would show that he could take the job if given the chance. All we have is a position full of backups.

Tim Tebow who couldn't hit a barn in the regular season had a QB rating 40 points higher than Quinn in preseason. Yet this is the guy some people think has a legit shot to be a starter? Getting your ass kicked by Tebow?

kid is YOKED.

If we're winning games 9-3 with Cassel throwing for 80 yards 0 TD 1 INT, Crennel doesn't have the balls to bench Cassel. "We're winning, that's all that matters" in the words of the Unspeakable One himself.

Which makes me kind of sad. We've got the talent on defense and now on the offensive line to give Cassel those kinds of wins. I'm expecting another 10-6 season with Cassel throwing under 3000 yards, only to lose in the ****ing playoffs because those teams are actually able to do shit besides run the ****ing ball.

It's why if we're going to get off this Cassel horse shit, we need him to get injured, and we need his replacement to be instant offense. I don't think Stanzi or Quinn can do that at this point.

I just thought I read somewhere that Daboll likes to go over the top in his offenses...taking multiple shots downfield.

If this is the case...

Cassel won't be able to do that.

Stanzi fans say he can, but all the scouting reports I've read says he has an average NFL arm at best.

Quinn has the arm...but just seems to go full reerun under pressure.

Yep. And it will cost us big time AGAIN.

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What does Turner Gill think of Brady Quinn?

Welp. I'm going to climb on board the Quinn bandwagon. WTF else is there to do?

I've heard rumors of Stanzi being the greatest fifth-rounder ever, and many a team will rue passing on him, again, and again, and again.

Pioli has this unbelievable instinct, which he learned when he didn't select Tom Brady. But he was in the room when it happened.

You will just continue to suck him off until he cuts off his own dick, if and when he gets a chance to take the starting job away from Cassel. I'm amazed. Thought you were pretty smart until now.

Either he can play the position better or not.

We bash Cassel because he ****ing sucks. Period.

Again, kill yourself.

Try to engage conversation instead of taking a dump on what everyone posts.

Are you 12?

At this point, you're nothing but a boring troll.

I'm in.

/bookmarked - If Pest is wrong, he will need to write out this post (or print) on paper and he will have to eat it. Pics or GTFO.

LMAO

Yup, if Quinn was hands down the best option in elway & fox's eyes, they dont shove Tebow out there, elways a noob GM but i doubt he's THAT dumb, he wasnt tied to Tebow in any way whatsoever.

If Quinn had been able to earn the right over such an obvious one-off fluke kinda player... he would've started, period.

Fact is, he couldnt beat out a TE/RB who can chuck the ball around a little bit... Fox would've probably rather brought in Delhomme off his gator boat than start Quinn.

Elway wanted Luck
Tebow got in the way by winning
Not that I think Quinn is worth a shit

I haven't quite figured out what you are yet. I get that you're a gators fan, but here you are vomiting up cum about the Jaguars all the time. Are you even a Chiefs fan? I'm asking because I don't know.

what ive seen or know is that BQ can throw a really good ball on the run eeven rolling to his left

Separated at birth?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1013207/twins.jpg

When are we going to see this? In preseason? I doubt we get enough of a look for him to prove it. We certainly won't see him prove it in a real game, whether he deserves it or not.

Some maybe, but I think most say these things out of desperation. We have seen Cassel prove it in front of our eyes for a few years. I never really watched Quinn play. I don't expect much, but if you are putting him next to Cassel, yeah I am going to want to atleast see Quinn since .0001 is better than .00000 as far as chance of being a solution.

Now if you put Quinn next to a real option at QB, then you are really stretching it to want to see Quinn. I don't think many people are saying that. Its not like, for example, the options are Schaub or Quinn and we are saying "hey lets try Quinn."

:spock:
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He's a Fn moran. Period.

I'm not exactly sure if that's a valid reason. I honestly believe a great quarterback succeeds without the weapons and elevates the play of others around him. For example, look at Tom Brady his first year with the Pats and the weapons he had.....Antwan Smith, Troy Brown, David Patten, Jermaine Wiggins, nothing real special.

Montana didn't really have good weapons when he was KC but still managed to put together successful seasons. Those are just a few examples. I think weapons do help, don't get wrong, but I don't think it's the determining factor. A quarterback either has it or he doesn't.

*Now I hope Brady Quinn succeeds. And I hope he matured and learned a thing or two from his experiences. I hope some of the coaches can do wonders with him. It'll be nice if he can light it up.

Eh? The Jags are the worst franchise in the NFL. You don't pay attention at all. And that's ****ing sad. I like the Chiefs. Besides I'll be going to school in Kansas in August anyway. I want to actually enjoy a home game if I ever get the chance to go to Arrowhead.

Ask him about his earthquake drills.

Your two examples are two of the greatest QBs ever. If you're holding out for that kind of rarified air when it comes to the QB position, you're liable to be waiting a long time. But look at QBs like Joe Theisman, Terry Bradshaw, Bob Greise, Lenny Dawson, and Troy Aikman. They all appeared in multiple superbowls and won at least one, but none of them were the kind of guy who did it with "nothing special" talent around them.

BRADY QUINN

MARRY ME

(or at least murder Matt Cassel in his sleep during training camp)

McClain's all, "Mommy daddy stop yelling."

Funny thing about Quinn is after he was drafted he was endorsing EAS or whatever it is. He was never on the field though so I don't think anyone new who the heck he was.

sr, WHERE do you tan?

Br. Quinn, Mediocre Woman

This. I think Elway totally wanted to pick up Luck for the Broncos and Tebow totally screwed them by winning games, as a matter of fact every time the Broncos won last year I cheered because I knew that was one step further away from getting Andrew Luck. I hate the idea of the Broncos having Manning but I would've hated the idea of Luck being in Denver 100 times worse.

Abso-frickin-lutely!!!

I don't think people really understand what separates great QBs from good QBs

Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated QB that I've ever seen

Sure, the Steelers had outstanding talent, but the Steelers won 4 SBs because Bradshaw consistently stepped up and made plays when the Steelers needed them

It's the same thing with Joe Montana, and another underrated QB in Troy Aikman.

You don't win multiple SBs unless you have a QB who responds to pressure situations.

Terry Bradsaw could throw it up & seemed like anywhere on the field his WRs would come down with it. Was it Lynn Swann who came down with spectacular cathes for him?

I don't think you've explained what it takes to be a great QB. All we can tell for sure here is that you, like most people, can identify them after the fact.

Nobody can with any reliable certainty.

I think you're a dipshit that doesn't understand context, since I am talking about Terry Bradshaw, who you suggested was essentially just a guy.

Agreed. I think it has been more than proven that you need a QB to succeed over an extended period of time. Until we start consistently trying to not only groom our own QB but giving that QB a real chance this team will never be doing more than living season to season not knowing how good they will be the next season.

We need to draft another one this year and let him and Stanzi compete to unseat the loser castle.

It's not his job to identify them before the fact. It is the job of the team we have rooted for our entire lives and for most of us here the team has failed miserably and not because they tried and failed, but because of their lack of trying. That is completely unacceptable and it should be to you as well. This franchise will never amount to anything more than a footnote until they do get a great QB that they have developed themselves. We will never win anything if we keep trotting out a reject like castle.

Funny thing is, Tim Tebow fits that discription. When/if he figures out the passing game in the earlier parts of the game, that dude is nails when the game is on the line.

Not suggesting anything, but just sayin'... :shrug:

I still do not want tebow. He's a glitch in the system, an anomaly, one that will not last, he'll burn out quickly, fade to little league water boy in another year or two.

:facepalm:

Has anyone got herpes?

Those other QB's were able to make plays in the first three quarters as well so no Tebow does not fit that description after a partial season with only a couple of plays that a real QB might make.

I'm not saying I want him either. But he does fit the discription put forward by Milkman. He makes plays when his team needs them in the clutch situations.