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DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 09:29 AM

Torrey Craig looks like a really nice option off the buyout market. Lakers have a roster spot now but can't sign anyone over about $11 million in initial salary as a 1st apron team. So unless they were able to get below the apron somehow (which seems quite unlikely) then they're looking at cheaper buyout players.

Craig as a bench 3 and D option to replace what Christie was bringing would be a nice fit.

chiefzilla1501 02-06-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17952803)
Injuries.

Back and feet, no less - literally the LAST two things you wanna see are injured for big men. But that's the risk you take to get a young guy with his ceiling.

The real twist of the knife? Those are the assets that Pelinka talked Harrison off of in the Doncic deal...

The other thing thats interesting is Williams and doncic kind of have the same issue. Both of these guys give really inconsistent effort on defense. Have they decided that with the offensive onslaught this won’t matter? Or do they think there’s a formula for turning that around.

I certainly think that cutting back on doncic’s crazy utilization would help. Overweight or not

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17952918)
The other thing thats interesting is Williams and doncic kind of have the same issue. Both of these guys give really inconsistent effort on defense. Have they decided that with the offensive onslaught this won’t matter? Or do they think there’s a formula for turning that around.

I certainly think that cutting back on doncic’s crazy utilization would help. Overweight or not

It is worth pointing out how young both of them are.

Maturity can really help iron out consistency issues.

But oddly enough, the lakers - outside of LeBron and DFS - are suddenly a really young team. Luka, Williams, Reaves and Rui is a core 4 just entering their prime years.

dirk digler 02-06-2025 10:56 AM

KD to GSW almost happened but he shut it down. He must still hate Dray and probably some of the organization.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Golden State Warriors reportedly underestimated Kevin Durant’s “coldness” toward the organization. Even a conversation between Steph Curry and Durant left Curry feeling that a reunion was unlikely, per <a href="https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@anthonyVslater</a> <br><br>“At some point in the last several days, Stephen Curry… <a href="https://t.co/VwxDWQU0cK">pic.twitter.com/VwxDWQU0cK</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1887498180012425380?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17953032)
KD to GSW almost happened but he shut it down. He must still hate Dray and probably some of the organization.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Golden State Warriors reportedly underestimated Kevin Durant’s “coldness” toward the organization. Even a conversation between Steph Curry and Durant left Curry feeling that a reunion was unlikely, per <a href="https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@anthonyVslater</a> <br><br>“At some point in the last several days, Stephen Curry… <a href="https://t.co/VwxDWQU0cK">pic.twitter.com/VwxDWQU0cK</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1887498180012425380?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Draymond probably cost that team multiple more championships (and not just because he got suspended in the 2016 Finals for repeatedly kicking players in the groin) and nobody in that organization still has the guts to tell him that.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17952831)
Why are people acting like a pick swap has ANY value for the Hornets?

I guess the idea is that they could trade the rights to swap to someone that DOESN'T suck. But strictly as an asset to Charlotte - what are the odds that the Hornets are swapping pick spots with the Lakers in 2030? 10%? 5? I mean c'mon - the Hornets ALWAYS suck. The Lakers...don't. Even if Williams is an injury case, he's off the cap for the 2026 FA derby.

There's just no way that is going to mean anything for them. The 2031 pick MIGHT have some shot at being in the mid-teens where they could, if they're lucky, get someone as good as Knecht. And Knecht, who I REALLY like, is still just going to be a very good role player.

So the Lakers gave up what probably amounts to a couple of 6th/7th man types for a 23 year old starting C with genuinely elite physical tools.

And there are folks considering it an overpay? Why? The only real risk is the injury concern and if those come to fruition, you just move on from him. And you've maintained some flexibility should another deal come along today for Rui (who I still think is an awkward fit).

Now they have a playoff starting 5 of

Williams
DFS
Luka
James
Reaves

With Rui as your 6th man and offensive leader off the bench. You still have Vanderbilt and Vincent off the bench as well as matchup specific pieces.

I don't think that's better than the Celtics but now it COULD beat anyone in the West. They'll have to come together quickly and play damn well to get past Oklahoma City, but there's still the "is OKC actually ready to win a championship?" question.

This is a damn good move and makes the Lakers a legit possibility to win a championship, even if you don't quite put them at 'contender' status due to how good Boston and OKC have been to this point.

I also think they'll add another shooter in the buyout market.

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953104)
I also think they'll add another shooter in the buyout market.

Yeah -- Torrey Craig is the guy I suggested.

They can't add Schroder because he makes too much for a 1st apron team and I don't think LA can get below that 1st apron.

But as a physical defender and solid outside shooter, Torrey Craig just seems a perfect fit for them.

BWillie 02-06-2025 03:02 PM

Ugh. Cavs got De'andre Hunter.

Really wanted him in a trade.

Very underrated player.

chiefzilla1501 02-06-2025 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17953343)
Ugh. Cavs got De'andre Hunter.

Really wanted him in a trade.

Very underrated player.

Tremendous trade for the Cavs. Fills in a lot of blanks for them. Badly needed an additional wing. Mitchell is consistently good but can’t do it on his own. Garland is too streaky and most of their other guards/forwards are shooters or defenders. Levert has just been terribly inconsistent for what they need.

The Cavs are a really good team capable of having just a really bad night. Especially against Boston where if everyone isn’t red hot it meant abusing usage from Mitchell.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17952654)
Young teams always choke their first time.

There will be no more choking.

I'd love for them to somehow trade for De'andre Hunter. Not sure if it is possible.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Windhorst says teams aren’t really afraid of the top-seeded teams in the West<br><br>&quot;There&#39;s not a lot of fear from the teams out there about these teams at the top of the West.&quot;<br><br>(h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/clutchfans?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@clutchfans</a> ) <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/wPK5CJjtmV">pic.twitter.com/wPK5CJjtmV</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1887581145270735139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mescalito345 02-06-2025 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953104)
I also think they'll add another shooter in the buyout market.

Ten days ago, the Lakers 2025 championship odds were 40:1

Now the odds are 12:1

Mescalito345 02-06-2025 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17952650)
Won't beat the Thunder.

SGA > Luka

Not even really close.

Healthy Chet and night night Western Conference

So far this season, SGA has been better than Luka, because Luka has missed the last 20 games due to injury. But in a month, they will be about equal in value. Luka led the NBA in scoring last season, and finished third in the MVP race.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17953633)
Ten days ago, the Lakers 2025 championship odds were 40:1

Now the odds are 12:1

Adding one of the top 3 players in the sport who is a proven playoff performer will do that.

There’s a decent argument that Luka and LeBron is the best duo in the league currently.

Mescalito345 02-06-2025 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17952803)
Injuries.

Back and feet, no less - literally the LAST two things you wanna see are injured for big men. But that's the risk you take to get a young guy with his ceiling.

The real twist of the knife? Those are the assets that Pelinka talked Harrison off of in the Doncic deal...

His back injury last season was a bone bruise to the lower back. It's completely healed now, so not an issue.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953108)
Yeah -- Torrey Craig is the guy I suggested.

They can't add Schroder because he makes too much for a 1st apron team and I don't think LA can get below that 1st apron.

But as a physical defender and solid outside shooter, Torrey Craig just seems a perfect fit for them.

Perfect fit for the Celtics too, it seems. Can’t blame him, they’re the favorites.

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17953655)
His back injury last season was a bone bruise to the lower back. It's completely healed now, so not an issue.

That's what LA said.

But I watched some scouting breakdowns of him from this season and he's noticeably less explosive than he was even as a rookie.

You hope it's an effort thing that comes from playing for a bad team, but if could also be injury related.

I wasn't all that surprised by guys pushing him around - that happens to those high-cut, levery sort of bigs. The 'rim-runners' get shoved around from time to time. You live with that.

But those guys also tend to show really good burst and he just kinda hasn't this year and parts of last. One thing that really stood out to me was that when he collects and tries to jump again, there's just nothing there. That second leap is a good sign of raw athleticism and I haven't really seen it from him since the injuries.

Mescalito345 02-06-2025 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953660)
That's what LA said.

But I watched some scouting breakdowns of him from this season and he's noticeably less explosive than he was even as a rookie.

You hope it's an effort thing that comes from playing for a bad team, but if could also be injury related.

I wasn't all that surprised by guys pushing him around - that happens to those high-cut, levery sort of bigs. The 'rim-runners' get shoved around from time to time. You live with that.

But those guys also tend to show really good burst and he just kinda hasn't this year and parts of last. One thing that really stood out to me was that when he collects and tries to jump again, there's just nothing there. That second leap is a good sign of raw athleticism and I haven't really seen it from him since the injuries.

Right now, Mark Williams is fifth in PER (Player Efficiency Rating). He's behind Jokic, SGA, Giannis, and AD. But ahead of Wemby, KAT, Durant, Curry, and others.

BWillie 02-06-2025 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17953642)
So far this season, SGA has been better than Luka, because Luka has missed the last 20 games due to injury. But in a month, they will be about equal in value. Luka led the NBA in scoring last season, and finished third in the MVP race.

It is impossible for Luka to be of equal value to SGA. For Luka to be of higher value than SGA he would have to average 42 ppg at the same efficiency to make up for his defensive shortcomings, while SGA is one of the best defensive guards in the league.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 10:04 PM

LeBron is 23-11-5 at half right now. At age 40.

smithandrew051 02-06-2025 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953726)
LeBron is 23-11-5 at half right now. At age 40.

Sounds washed

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17953715)
Right now, Mark Williams is fifth in PER (Player Efficiency Rating). He's behind Jokic, SGA, Giannis, and AD. But ahead of Wemby, KAT, Durant, Curry, and others.

PER doesn't scale up well. It means far less over small sample sizes.

And again, I REALLY like the trade for LA.

But I do have concerns with his health. The athleticism isn't what it was. You can even see it in HOW he defends, especially against the stretch 5s where he stays at the elbow instead of risking getting blown by. He looks like someone who seems to know he's a step slower than he was.

Just try to find some videos of him early in his career vs this season. He absolutely isn't moving the same way.

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953726)
LeBron is 23-11-5 at half right now. At age 40.

Think you can go ahead and call a time of death on that Warriors Dynasty you've been trying to bury for 5 years.

The Butler trade was a desperation swing and it just won't matter.

BWillie 02-06-2025 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953735)
Think you can go ahead and call a time of death on that Warriors Dynasty you've been trying to bury for 5 years.

The Butler trade was a desperation swing and it just won't matter.

Yeah it will make them more competitive and fun to watch. Ultimately no chance to contend.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 10:47 PM

The Warriors are back.

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953773)
The Warriors are back.

They aren't good.

You can let your hate go now. They can't hurt you anymore.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953780)
They aren't good.

You can let your hate go now. They can't hurt you anymore.

Not until Draymond is gone.

Pitt Gorilla 02-06-2025 11:11 PM

Dallas didn't look terrible tonight, missing much of their lineup.

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 11:38 PM

42-17-8 for “washed” GOAT LeBron

KC_Connection 02-06-2025 11:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A 73 win team had to beg KD to join them because they were so scared of LeBron. That says everything you need to know.</p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1887740104518561960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 02-07-2025 12:06 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LEBRON TROLLING THE WARRIORS LMAOOO <a href="https://t.co/JQQkqfodY4">pic.twitter.com/JQQkqfodY4</a></p>&mdash; LakeShowYo (@LakeShowYo) <a href="https://twitter.com/LakeShowYo/status/1887736586764517567?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Much deserved for Draymond.

Al Bundy 02-07-2025 12:57 AM

Awesome, Lebron beat a team that hates their coach/GM.

PAChiefsGuy 02-07-2025 02:07 AM

SGA with three 50-pt games this season.

Yes LeBronies the NBA is bigger than LeBron now.

KC_Connection 02-07-2025 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 17953830)
Awesome, Lebron beat a team that hates their coach/GM.

Is that the excuse for the Warriors having a poor roster and Steph declining significantly this year? Granted, not everyone can maintain an elite level into their late 30s/40s like the GOAT though.

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17953788)
Dallas didn't look terrible tonight, missing much of their lineup.

They're not going to be terrible - that's a good team.

Maybe not a great one, but they do a couple of things really well, especially when Davis is back.

I don't think they'll fight their way out of the play-in because they have too much climbing to do, but I think they'll get through the play in and be a tough opponent in the 1st round.

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17953797)
42-17-8 for “washed” GOAT LeBron

He was outstanding last night -- played as well as I've seen him play in a really long time.

I think we're starting to get our answer to "how will the addition of Luka impact LeBron..."

He absolutely seems re-charged by it.

BWillie 02-07-2025 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17953843)
SGA with three 50-pt games this season.

Yes LeBronies the NBA is bigger than LeBron now.

All NBA players whine about calls but do you know what I love about SGA? He whines less than any superstar I've seen.

chiefzilla1501 02-07-2025 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17953949)
All NBA players whine about calls but do you know what I love about SGA? He whines less than any superstar I've seen.

The worst character trait about sga is that he’s a little bland. He’s the mike trout of basketball. I mean that endearingly, of course

DJ's left nut 02-07-2025 09:01 AM

The guy I didn't see coming with OKC and the person who might determine their true ceiling is Williams.

I figured he played a little over his head last season -- then he got better THIS season.

I think I just fell victim to draft status bias there. You just don't figure someone that falls outside of the top 10 is going to be THIS good. And he's really really good.

And maybe I need to give Mark Daigneault more credit as well. I mean he has that entire team seemingly playing smart offense and aggressive, sound defense.

OKC is playing damn well and should clearly be the favorites out of the West right now. But a lot of this could've been said last season and they pooped on their shoes.

BWillie 02-07-2025 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17953953)
The worst character trait about sga is that he’s a little bland. He’s the mike trout of basketball. I mean that endearingly, of course

Old guy fan will love him then. Spread the word.

Aint nothin more they like when a guy scores a TD and hands the ball to the ref.

Respect the game!

KC_Connection 02-07-2025 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953942)
He was outstanding last night -- played as well as I've seen him play in a really long time.

I think we're starting to get our answer to "how will the addition of Luka impact LeBron..."

He absolutely seems re-charged by it.

Looks to me like he's wanted to give everyone a reminder (including and especially the Lakers organization) about who he is after that trade. Usually he's saved these efforts for the playoffs in recent years.

KC_Connection 02-07-2025 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17953965)
Old guy fan will love him then. Spread the word.

Aint nothin more they like when a guy scores a TD and hands the ball to the ref.

Respect the game!

Good Canadian kid. Too bad he plays with a bunch of chokers.

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 04:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“He’s not fat, bring him back” is a generational chant<a href="https://t.co/uAICc5GEok">pic.twitter.com/uAICc5GEok</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1888340248779800983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AD also just got hurt with a non-contact injury

DJ's left nut 02-08-2025 05:23 PM

Austin Reaves may put up 50 today. And he's stealing balls and flipping no-look dimes. This is a clinic while surrounded by G-Leaguers.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2025 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17955620)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“He’s not fat, bring him back” is a generational chant<a href="https://t.co/uAICc5GEok">pic.twitter.com/uAICc5GEok</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1888340248779800983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AD also just got hurt with a non-contact injury

Looked like a groin maybe?

Was a bummer because he was in full killer mode before he went down.

I still don't think there are 5 more impactful players in the league when he's tuned up.

Sassy Squatch 02-08-2025 05:30 PM

The full Street Clothes experience in one game.

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 05:48 PM

I can’t imagine there’s anybody on the planet who thought Reaves would be this good coming out of OU, not even his family.

FloridaMan88 02-08-2025 06:07 PM

AD injured already? LMAO

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 08:15 PM

Mark Williams trade rescinded. The NBA is ****ing wild, man LMAO

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 08:23 PM

Have to admit that I felt a lot more confident in my Lakers to the Finals prediction when their starting lineup projected to have Williams in it than Jaxson Hayes, but Luka and LeBron will find a way. Need to add a buyout vet big now.

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 08:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Williams&#39; physical with the Lakers showed multiple issues and the team failed him on the exam, sources tell ESPN. The physical was not failed due to his back, however. <a href="https://t.co/lY4XrSIlHf">https://t.co/lY4XrSIlHf</a></p>&mdash; Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1888415642371686502?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty clear now that the Hornets were trying to get some value out of a player who was simply ****ed from an injury perspective before he became the next Greg Oden.

smithandrew051 02-08-2025 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17955916)
Have to admit that I felt a lot more confident in my Lakers to the Finals prediction when their starting lineup projected to have Williams in it than Jaxson Hayes, but Luka and LeBron will find a way. Need to add a buyout vet big now.

Getting Knecht back isn’t terrible even if it isn’t the pressing need

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17955939)
Getting Knecht back isn’t terrible even if it isn’t the pressing need

Another shooter around Luka/LeBron is never a bad thing

DJ's left nut 02-08-2025 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17955916)
Have to admit that I felt a lot more confident in my Lakers to the Finals prediction when their starting lineup projected to have Williams in it than Jaxson Hayes, but Luka and LeBron will find a way. Need to add a buyout vet big now.

I think Mo Bamba would be a possibility even as a 1st apron team?

Yeah - this one smarts a bit in terms of present roster construction.

But like I said a little bit earlier in this thread - he was NOTICEABLY less athletic this year. Something was amiss.

BWillie 02-08-2025 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17956043)
I think Mo Bamba would be a possibility even as a 1st apron team?

Yeah - this one smarts a bit in terms of present roster construction.

But like I said a little bit earlier in this thread - he was NOTICEABLY less athletic this year. Something was amiss.

If you wanna see a player with an awful bball iq...Mo Bamba would be at the top of the list.

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17956043)
I think Mo Bamba would be a possibility even as a 1st apron team?

Yeah - this one smarts a bit in terms of present roster construction.

But like I said a little bit earlier in this thread - he was NOTICEABLY less athletic this year. Something was amiss.

Think it's gotta be Bamba at this point for the shot blocking. Theis is also there too, who at least has the experience playing on a contender.

KC_Connection 02-08-2025 11:07 PM

https://www.bball-index.com/lebron-application/

Bamba ranked out defensively the best of his career this year at least by this metric. Still may have something left to give.

Mescalito345 02-09-2025 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17956070)
Think it's gotta be Bamba at this point for the shot blocking. Theis is also there too, who at least has the experience playing on a contender.

Pelinka is a very good GM, but yesterday he made a serious mistake by cancelling the Mark Williams trade. Since the trade deadline has already passed, Pelinka should buy out/waive Kleber or Reddish, and then try to sign Mo Bamba, before some other team signs him.

DJ's left nut 02-09-2025 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17957169)
Pelinka is a very good GM, but yesterday he made a serious mistake by cancelling the Mark Williams trade. Since the trade deadline has already passed, Pelinka should buy out/waive Kleber or Reddish, and then try to sign Mo Bamba, before some other team signs him.

Not if his feet are as screwed up as the rumors are suggesting. That would explain his relative lack of athleticism since he came back and would mean that he'd remain a defensive liability against the very sort of players he was acquired to defend.

KC_Connection 02-09-2025 04:45 PM

I imagine the Lakers saw something in the physical that suggested he wouldn't be able to play effectively in the NBA longterm (and Williams having a serious issue is the biggest indicator as to why Charlotte even wanted to deal him in the first place; otherwise they absolutely shouldn't have been making that trade given where their franchise is).

Not sure you can criticize Pelinka for shutting it down.

loochy 02-09-2025 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17955779)
AD injured already? LMAO

Yip, out 2 weeks.

Idiots

Sassy Squatch 02-10-2025 09:37 PM

So is this game just not on TV?

smithandrew051 02-10-2025 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963810)
So is this game just not on TV?

Supposed to be on espn.

Bottom corner of my screen says Baylor vs Houston continues on the other ESPN channels.

So I’m guessing they're switching soon.

Sassy Squatch 02-10-2025 09:40 PM

Finally did.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2025 10:18 PM

Can't say I've seen the Jazz play this year.

I haven't missed much.

These guys suck. The Lakers aren't even playing terribly well and are on pace to score about 150.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 10:19 PM

There's no stopping this team. Championship bound.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17963842)
Can't say I've seen the Jazz play this year.

I haven't missed much.

These guys suck. The Lakers aren't even playing terribly well and are on pace to score about 150.

Utah starts Svi Mykhaliuk regularly. They are purposely trying to lose as many games as possible to get Flagg (which is the right approach instead of whatever the Raptors are doing).

DJ's left nut 02-10-2025 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17963843)
There's no stopping this team. Championship bound.

Hornets looking to dispute the rescinded Williams deal now.

This is just kinda funny at this point. Meanwhile poor Williams is just gonna feel dragged as hell by all this.

DJ's left nut 02-10-2025 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17963844)
Utah starts Svi Mykhaliuk regularly. They are purposely trying to lose as many games as possible to get Flagg (which is the right approach instead of whatever the Raptors are doing).

Wait - the ex-beaker? The big dude who just kinda stood around looking to take 3s and do...well pretty much nothing else. That guy is in the NBA?

Jesus. That's bad.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17963846)
Hornets looking to dispute the rescinded Williams deal now.

This is just kinda funny at this point. Meanwhile poor Williams is just gonna feel dragged as hell by all this.

Saw that. Complete joke of an organization. They really should just tip toeing out of this situation after what they clearly attempted to do there.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17963848)
Wait - the ex-beaker? The big dude who just kinda stood around looking to take 3s and do...well pretty much nothing else. That guy is in the NBA?

Jesus. That's bad.

As long as you're 6'6 and can shoot even half decently, you can apparently remain in the NBA for a decade. I wish I was a couple of inches taller and learned how to shoot.

smithandrew051 02-10-2025 10:42 PM

Did you know Svi actually has a wingspan that’s shorter than his height?

Jerm 02-10-2025 10:52 PM

Luka has to be one of the most unorthodox and difficult guys to guard…has all the tools and is unpredictable.

Might pull up from the logo, might hit a Dirk fadeaway 2 ft. inside the 3 pt. line, might drive and dish, might drive and draw a foul, etc. etc. etc.

All this while moving like a sloth lol.

It’s incredible…

BWillie 02-10-2025 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17963843)
There's no stopping this team. Championship bound.

Haha yeah right.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 11:25 PM

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What a night. The league is trembling in fear.

KC_Connection 02-10-2025 11:41 PM

Reaves is basically skinny Luka at this point. How do you deal with these guys?

DJ's left nut 02-10-2025 11:46 PM

Jemison is the worst player I've ever seen.

No body control at all - just a complete lummox.

DJ's left nut 02-11-2025 09:33 AM

Y'know what really makes me laugh?

There was actually a large segment of Lakers fans and NBA media that continued to squawk that Darvin Ham got a raw deal as recently as December.

This years Lakers, until Luka showed up, weren't terribly dissimilar from a roster construction standpoint than last year's team and yet they are CLEARLY a better team. They're just so much more cohesive on offense and defense. Their rotations make more sense. Their energy level is higher.

It's all things that come back to coaching.

Now NBA coaches are still disposable as hell and it wouldn't shock me if Reddick is gone in 3 years as well. But I'm not coming here to praise JJ Reddick -- I'm here to bury Darvin Ham. That guy was ****ing awful. I said it during the season, I said it when they fired him and I'm happy to say it again.

That guy completely sabotaged last year for LA and by simply getting mere competence behind the bench again, the Lakers have put themselves in the same spot in the standings they should've been LAST season when they probably should've been a 4/5 seed based on talent and dodged that first round matchup vs. Denver.

Darvin Ham can eat many dicks.

dirk digler 02-11-2025 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17963843)
There's no stopping this team. Championship bound.

Can they beat Denver?

DJ's left nut 02-11-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17964282)
Can they beat Denver?

They're better situated to beat Denver than they were.

I said in the playoffs last season that the biggest sin from Ham was that he subjected this team to Denver in the 1st round.

Both teams were built from the middle out, Denver was just built in that fashion but better. The Lakers had no chance to beat that team because Denver did the same thing LAL did but they had more talent doing it.

I said the Nuggest were gettable (turned out they were) but they had to be beaten by a team that did something DIFFERENT than they did and executed that thing at a higher level over a 7 game series. Because nobody is going to go play Denver and beat them at their own game while they have Jokic.

This team can go be a team that does something different, executes that thing, and beats Denver.

Now can they beat Oklahoma City? That's a different animal entirely.

But yeah, I think this team can absolutely being Denver now because they're not trying to beat them doing the same thing Denver excels at.

BWillie 02-11-2025 01:41 PM

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...C%20truly%20is.

OKC Thunder surpass Michael Jordan's Bulls with best net-rating in NBA history

So far this season, the Oklahoma City Thunder have been nothing short of spectacular. Boasting the best defensive rating in the NBA, OKC has led the league in almost every defensive category all season and has solidified themselves as one of the best defensive teams of all time.

Now, after their dominant 137-101 victory over the New Orleans Pelicans Monday night, Loud City has officially reached the pinnacle of NBA basketball.

When it comes to a team's net-rating, it is the difference between the team's offensive and defensive rating. More specifically, it shows the team's overall efficiency on both ends of the court.

The previous record holder of this statistic (13.4) was none other than Michael Jordan and his 1995-96 Chicago Bulls. This is the same Bulls team that went 72-10, won the NBA title, and is widely regarded as one of, if not the, best team of all time.

And the 2024-25 OKC Thunder just replaced them.

With a current net-rating of 13.5, the Oklahoma City Thunder now have the best recorded net-rating in the history of the National Basketball Association. With teams like the 1996-97 Bulls, 2016-17 Warriors, and 2023-24 Celtics all below them, this measurement goes to show how good OKC truly is.

And of course, all of those mentioned teams went on to win the titles in their respective years. With Loud City having the second-best odds to win the title this year (+230) according to ESPN Bet, history may be on OKC's side when it is all said and done.


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