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Saccopoo 08-30-2009 08:52 PM

With their first pick in the 2010 draft, the Chiefs select...
 
So many holes...so many...it's honestly a toss up at a multitude of positions that the Chiefs could address with their #1 pick next year.

Here's a list of potential Top 10 canidates, in order of personal preference:

1. Brandon Spikes, LB; Florida
2. Terrence Cody, DT; Alabama
3. Jermaine Gresham, TE; Oklahoma
4. Sergio Kindle, LB/DE; Texas
5. Russell Okung, OT; OSU
6. Taylor Mays, S; USC or Eric Berry, S; Tennesee (either or)
7. Trent Williams, OT; OU
8. CJ Spiller, RB; Clemson
9. Dez Bryant, WR; OSU
10. Kris O'Dowd, C; USC

Bane 08-30-2009 08:54 PM

:cuss:

Priest31kc 08-30-2009 08:55 PM

We need to just take OL every single round next year.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 6016885)
We need to just take RT every single round next year.

FYP

Hammock Parties 08-30-2009 08:55 PM

Taylor Mays.

I'll give you one guess why.

DBOSHO 08-30-2009 08:56 PM

dez, then oline

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2009 08:56 PM

For me, it's gotta be Cody. You don't draft an ILB that high (lesson from Curry).

Cody is 365 lbs. If he's that big and can play, talk about a mammoth of a nose tackle.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6016888)
Taylor Mays.

I'll give you one guess why.

He'd be awesome paired up with Pollard. Mays could guard the deep middle and let Pollard roam the field making plays.

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 08:58 PM

Eric Berry has the least amount of question marks at this point.

Tribal Warfare 08-30-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6016894)
For me, it's gotta be Cody. You don't draft an ILB that high (lesson from Curry).

Cody is 365 lbs. If he's that big and can play, talk about a mammoth of a nose tackle.

I concur

DBOSHO 08-30-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6016888)
Taylor Mays.

I'll give you one guess why.

cause hes a ss? and thats where pollard is? and that might mean no more pollard?



i like it

DBOSHO 08-30-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016895)
He'd be awesome paired up with Pollard. Mays could guard the deep middle and let Pollard roam the field making plays.

we have the ballhawk in page

Hammock Parties 08-30-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016895)
He'd be awesome paired up with Pollard. Mays could guard the deep middle and let Pollard roam the field making plays.

Shut the **** up.

Reaper16 08-30-2009 09:01 PM

It depends on where the team is drafting. I love Berry and Mays, but not at, say, #1 overall. This team has a glaring need for someone like Cody, too.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6016905)
we have the ballhawk in page

Mays isn't a ballhawk. He's a deep coverage guy who is excellent at stopping the big play.

philfree 08-30-2009 09:01 PM

Sergio Kindle

We still need a pass rusher in the worst way and we do have two 2nd round picks to use on a WR and O lineman. Or a NT and O lineman.

PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:02 PM

Ha he has a point, for all of his size Taylor has been playing FS for his college career..he's gonna get a shot at SS this year and do alot of different stuff.

But yes he just spent 3 years making Kevin Ellison look good because Ellison played at the line since Mays could cover the entire deep middle by himself.

KCrockaholic 08-30-2009 09:03 PM

They wont pick #1 overall because if we get that selection we will trade out of it and pick up an extra 3-4 picks.

But if I must guess I think it will be Russell Okung.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:04 PM

If they have the first pick odds are they won't be able to trade out...that's how it works.

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 09:05 PM

Terrence Cody can make this a lot easier if he watches his weight. He's a controversial prospect.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016923)
If they have the first pick odds are they won't be able to trade out...that's how it works.

Someone will want to trade up to draft McCoy.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:06 PM

I will say this if they take Cody in the top 5 people will freak out because he's not considered a 3 down player.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016930)
Someone will want to trade up to draft McCoy.

Which one!

KCrockaholic 08-30-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016923)
If they have the first pick odds are they won't be able to trade out...that's how it works.

I understand. I know the history of the 1st overall pick. But I also believe Pioli will do everything in his power to trade out. I think he would end up getting his way.

KCrockaholic 08-30-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 6016927)
Terrence Cody can make this a lot easier if he watches his weight. He's a controversial prospect.

Cody might be the next Andre Smith. Watch out.


I know, I know, different position. Same type of player.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016935)
Which one!

Colt of course.


Everyone loves a spread QB.

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 09:08 PM

I'd like to see them keep those three picks in the first two rounds.

first round: Taylor Mays or Eric Berry
first pick in the second round: outside linebacker
second pick in the second round: wide receiver

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016940)
Colt of course.


Everyone loves a spread QB.

HaHa...you and I know both know Gerald is going before Colt in the McCoy battle.

Tribal Warfare 08-30-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 6016927)
Terrence Cody can make this a lot easier if he watches his weight. He's a controversial prospect.

I've stated this before, but he's trying to get to 350 and will probably be around 340 to 345 when the combine starts. He'll maintain that weight under Haley's tener.

Coogs 08-30-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016923)
If they have the first pick odds are they won't be able to trade out...that's how it works.

Colt McCoy, baby. Colt McCoy! #1 overall pick is going to be a hot commodity this year. ;)

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:10 PM

I'm already prepared for the fools to hype up McCoy, it's gonna be a long offseason.

Basileus777 08-30-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016948)
I'm already prepared for the fools to hype up McCoy, it's gonna be a long offseason.

I think it will be worse with Bradford. I can already see the people hyping up his completion percentage and how it means he will be a good NFL qb.

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2009 09:15 PM

As much as I'd hate using a top 5 pick on a safety, historically teams will use it on a very rare talent. And in a 3-4, they have more opportunity to be a playmaker. If Mays becomes the next Harrison or Polamalu or Ed Reed, sign me up. I still think that when the Ravens moved to a 3-4, Reed became 100 times more important to that defense than Ray Lewis.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016957)
I think it will be worse with Bradford. I can already see the people hyping up his completion percentage and how it means he will be a good NFL qb.

It's really funny seeing as Bradford will only be the 4th best prospect in the draft from his own team...

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016957)
I think it will be worse with Bradford. I can already see the people hyping up his completion percentage and how it means he will be a good NFL qb.

It will be really bad if some mock drafts continue to have him going No. 1 overall to Seattle.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6016959)
As much as I'd hate using a top 5 pick on a safety, historically teams will use it on a very rare talent. And in a 3-4, they have more opportunity to be a playmaker. If Mays becomes the next Harrison or Polamalu or Ed Reed, sign me up. I still think that when the Ravens moved to a 3-4, Reed became 100 times more important to that defense than Ray Lewis.

Eric Berry is more Reed...Mays is kind of like LaRon Landry, he is huge fast and physical but he's not really a playmaker, he'll do his job as well as you could ever imagine but don't ever expect him to go Reed and change games.

doomy3 08-30-2009 09:17 PM

If we draft a safety, and both are on the board, I would much prefer Eric Berry. He reminds me of Ed Reed.

Coogs 08-30-2009 09:20 PM

I'm kind of surprised you would go TE with your 3rd overall preference.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:22 PM

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Saccopoo 08-30-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6016977)
I'm kind of surprised you would go TE with your 3rd overall preference.

A playmaker is a playmaker, and I think that Gresham has all the tools to be one of the really special players at his position. A bigger, faster version of Gonzalez that is, at the same point in his career, a substantially better blocker. A reliable passing game safety valve that helps your qb from getting killed is okay in my book.

The 2010 draft is really interesting. I think that there are a number of players who are substantially better than their 2009 counterparts. It's a deep draft talent wise at the top, and I think that there will be better opportunity for a team to move out of a top spot than the last draft, but if you stay, there is the chance to get a really special player. While their positions are not considered as typical "Top 5" draftable positions, I feel that Spikes, Berry and Gresham represent truly "special" type players. Once in a generation types. As well, guys like Okung, Mays, Cody and Kindle represent substantial upgrades at their respective positions versus their '09 draft counterparts; i.e., Okung looks to be a much better tackle prospect than Smith or Monroe, etc.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:39 PM

I question of when Berry and Mays measure in and workout that will be the point when Mays jumps ahead in rankings.

doomy3 08-30-2009 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6017032)
I question of when Berry and Mays measure in and workout that will be the point when Mays jumps ahead in rankings.

Yeah, I question of when that too.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6017035)
Yeah, I question of when that too.

Ok don't be a smartass.

Mays is 5 inches taller 35lbs heavier and his 40 is supposedly faster....

DeezNutz 08-30-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6016948)
I'm already prepared for the fools to hype up McCoy, it's gonna be a long offseason.

Intraweb towel parties will be in order.

I have no desire to hear one ****ing word about Brodie McCoy.

doomy3 08-30-2009 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6017038)
Ok don't be a smartass.

Mays is 5 inches taller 35lbs heavier and his 40 is supposedly faster....

Yeah, I get that. And he hits hard. He's definitely a good prospect and will be very good in the NFL.

If I am drafting a safety in the top of a draft, he better be a playmaker, a la Ed Reed.

That's why I take Berry, no questions asked.

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 09:43 PM

I would really suck to find out that Berry is 5-foot-8 instead of 5-foot-10.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:45 PM

I think he really is 5'10 based upon what I've heard from people who've been close to him.

Mays is going to be used in numerous roles this year not just playing deep middle so he'll get a chance to show if he's a playmaker.

Saccopoo 08-30-2009 09:45 PM

And this is just looking at it from a Chiefs perspective. Guys like Gerald McCoy of OU and Ndamukong Suh of NU are amazing players, who should be highly coveted by teams running a 4-3.

And I don't mention a guy like Carlos Dunlap, who is a beast, because we just picked up Jackson.

Then there are the qb's in McCoy, Bradford, Tebow and Snead.

There is a lot of talent at the top of this next draft. Big time. Might push a lot of guys into the second that have first round potential.

Saccopoo 08-30-2009 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 6017050)
I would really suck to find out that Berry is 5-foot-8 instead of 5-foot-10.

Doesn't seem to hurt Bob Sanders any.

Mecca 08-30-2009 09:46 PM

Suh can play in a 3-4...the other guys can't.

Another guy who's an outstanding 3-4 prospect is Vince Oghabaase.

Oregon chief 08-30-2009 09:47 PM

Please no more DT's

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6016895)
He'd be awesome paired up with Pollard. Mays could guard the deep middle and let Pollard roam the field making plays.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

I am seriously laughing my ****ing ass off at this!!!!! REP!

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6016906)
Shut the **** up.

FOILED AGAIN!LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Sam Hall 08-30-2009 09:49 PM

I'd jump for joy as a Husker fan if the Chiefs draft Suh to play nose tackle or defensive end. But I think it's wishful thinking.

DeezNutz 08-30-2009 09:49 PM

Pollard and Mays.

The bait and switch. Come lured by the initial suck to meet a legit hammer.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6017079)
Pollard and Mays.

The bait and switch. Come lured by the initial suck to meet a legit hammer.

ROFL See, the difference between GoChiefs and myself on this whole Pollard/LJ-trip, is that I'm not gonna' cry if Pollard gets the shaft because I know it's best for the team.

If LJ got benched or beat out by Charles? You'd find GoChiefs two months later in his Mom's basement surrounded by discarded pizza-roll boxes and wrapped up in a blanky while stuttering gibberish to the wall.

Saccopoo 08-30-2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 6017077)
I'd jump for joy as a Husker fan if the Chiefs draft Suh to play nose tackle or defensive end. But I think it's wishful thinking.

I'd cringe if they picked defensive line again, but watching this pre-season, it's obvious that they need a DT in the worst way. But you can say that about a lot of positions - tight end, right tackle, offensive guard, center, linebacker. I just don't know if you can actually say one position is more important than the other in terms of what the Chiefs need.

But Suh is one of the meanest guys I've seen play in a long time. Dude is just a baby eating hate machine on the field.

listopencil 08-30-2009 10:04 PM

Wait. Do you mean "with the first pick in the 2010 draft" or "with their first pick in the 2010 draft" because that's two different things.

Saccopoo 08-30-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 6017130)
Wait. Do you mean "with the first pick in the 2010 draft" or "with their first pick in the 2010 draft" because that's two different things.

I think that it might just be synonymous considering the state of the Chiefs talent and schedule this season.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 6017130)
Wait. Do you mean "with the first pick in the 2010 draft" or "with their first pick in the 2010 draft" because that's two different things.

I'm gonna' say "potentially both" at this juncture.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2009 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 6017140)
I think that it might just be synonymous considering the state of the Chiefs talent and schedule this season.

JINX!:)

listopencil 08-30-2009 10:11 PM

Don't count on it fellas. You'll have us and the Raiders fighting you for it just in this division alone.

Kyle DeLexus 08-30-2009 10:18 PM

I hope Mays shows that he has playmaker ability this season. He is a freak athlete. What around 6'3 230lbs and could run in the 4.3-4's.


Gotta love these two plays from Berry though.
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Basileus777 08-30-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 6017145)
Don't count on it fellas. You'll have us and the Raiders fighting you for it just in this division alone.

I think you mean Seattle.

KCChiefsMan 08-30-2009 10:40 PM

It's time to step away from the d-line. It seems that 75% of our first round picks are d-line and we still haven't gotten 1 great player. Although I think Jackson will end our bad streak.

I'd be happy with Taylor Mays if we pick #7 or beyond. Cody is a hell of a prospect, but still. Gresham wouldn't be bad either, but if there are any o-lineman out there we need to go for that too. Whoever said we shouldn't go after any tackles this offseason because you don't pay too much money to a right tackle, well, how do ya feel about that now?

58kcfan89 08-30-2009 11:08 PM

As of right now (without reading the rest of the thread), my draft board (based on needs) goes:

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee. Guy has the least amount of question marks and I think he's going to be a monster/superstar S.

2. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama. Monster DT and although I don't like taking a DL 3 years in a row, it's a very important position and Cody is a helluva prospect.

3. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St. Considering we have abosolutely no big playmakers outside of Bowe, we need one. If we're bad enough to be picking in the top 3, I'd pass (unless we sign a sh*tton of free agents), but he could be a great WR, especially opposite Bowe.

Those are my top 3. Mays seems like a slightly better version of Pollard to me (goes for the big hit to often for my taste from what I've seen, which is admittedly a small amount) and I hope we can find some good LB prospects in the middle rounds. Same with RT, I hate the thought of drafting any OL that aren't LTs in the 1st.

Kyle DeLexus 08-30-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6017205)
It's time to step away from the d-line. It seems that 75% of our first round picks are d-line and we still haven't gotten 1 great player. Although I think Jackson will end our bad streak.

I'd be happy with Taylor Mays if we pick #7 or beyond. Cody is a hell of a prospect, but still. Gresham wouldn't be bad either, but if there are any o-lineman out there we need to go for that too. Whoever said we shouldn't go after any tackles this offseason because you don't pay too much money to a right tackle, well, how do ya feel about that now?


I still feel it would be wrong to take a tackle at #3 when you already have a LT. We could have went OL later in the draft though. If/when we pick high again I still won't want to go RT.

I don't know about Cody, he seems like a major risk as a player that will eat himself out of the league once he gets his big payday. Has anyone watched any tape of Boo Robinson as a NT we could take with one of our 2nds or 3rd? I would love to get Mays or Berry. Berry is the kind of playmaker that we could use and Mays is just an athletic monster that would be a force (I'm curious to see if he shows playmaker potential this season)

Mecca 08-30-2009 11:16 PM

I must be like the only guy who isn't really a fan of Dez Bryant.

Kyle DeLexus 08-30-2009 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6017249)
I must be like the only guy who isn't really a fan of Dez Bryant.

I don't like him for where we'll be picking. There are only 2(maybe 3) picks I can agree with the OP on for where we will be picking.

Eric Berry/Taylor Mays
Cody
and possibly Kindle depending on his season.

KCCHIEFS27 08-31-2009 02:04 AM

Everybody knows that the hand of god will come down from the heavens and smack the teams GM that holds that number one pick..Goodell will walk to the podium with a glorious light bestowed on him and he will read these immortal words.."With the first pick in the 2010 NFL draft..the (insert team name) select..Tim Tebow"

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2009 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27 (Post 6017330)
Everybody knows that the hand of god will come down from the heavens and smack the teams GM that holds that number one pick..Goodell will walk to the podium with a glorious light bestowed on him and he will read these immortal words.."With the first pick in the 2010 NFL draft..the (insert team name) select..Tim Tebow"

Oh....

WIN MOTHER****ERS! WIN! WIIIIIIINNNNNN! WIN FOUR GAMES, YOU SORRY ****S!!!!!

salame 08-31-2009 02:45 AM

It will NOT be Jermaine Gresham
the chiefs will probably not have a super high caliber TE on the roster as long as todd haley is here

TrickyNicky 08-31-2009 02:52 AM

I would love to have one of the elite prospects in rd 1 (cody, Berry/Mays, Spikes, or Bryant) and have Selvie in the 2nd, if he doesn't have a spectacular year and falls.

Mecca 08-31-2009 03:32 AM

The most physically gifted TE that got drafted over these few years won't be Jermaine Gresham...it's Martellus Bennett, Dallas got a massive steal with that guy.

beach tribe 08-31-2009 10:13 AM

Cody, or Berry...........or Mays.

beach tribe 08-31-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6017205)
Whoever said we shouldn't go after any tackles this offseason because you don't pay too much money to a right tackle, well, how do ya feel about that now?

Anybody with a brain feels exactly the same about that decision. We should have went after o-linemen, but not with that pick. It would have been a huge mistake. Albert and Monroe would have both wanted to play/be paid like a LT when their rookie deal was up, and we would lose one of them the same way we lost Tait.

beach tribe 08-31-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6017205)
It's time to step away from the d-line. It seems that 75% of our first round picks are d-line and we still haven't gotten 1 great player. Although I think Jackson will end our bad streak.

I'd be happy with Taylor Mays if we pick #7 or beyond. Cody is a hell of a prospect, but still. Gresham wouldn't be bad either, but if there are any o-lineman out there we need to go for that too. Whoever said we shouldn't go after any tackles this offseason because you don't pay too much money to a right tackle, well, how do ya feel about that now?

Then who do you think is going to play NT? The most important, and hard to find player in the 3-4 that we are switching to. Actually, besides franchise QB, NT is the hardest position to fill in all of football. If you have a chance to get one, you take it. .

The Franchise 08-31-2009 10:24 AM

Berry or Mays.

TEX 08-31-2009 10:25 AM

The post should read," With the FIRST pick in the 2010 NFL DRAFT, THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS select..."

Saccopoo 08-31-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 6017145)
Don't count on it fellas. You'll have us and the Raiders fighting you for it just in this division alone.

Oh, I just remembered. You guys traded away your #1 pick for a short punt returner. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!


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