Disturbing video that I have to comment on
 

Sorry for being so morbid today(2nd thread of violence) but I just came across this video on another site and thought it might make for some good discussion as I'm sure if you watch it your emotions will be triggered(no pun intended).

Possibly some of you have seen this or if it's been posted before I apologize.

Before I post the video my take is two-fold and split in that I think law enforcement officers are grossly underpaid and yet in this paticular video I was thinking what a dumbass cop,you've given fair warning,why not just shoot and wound this crazy bastard before he does something crazier.

Below the video is the story,again,fair warning,while not graphic in nature the video is quite disturbing.

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Deputy Kyle Dinkheller, Laurens County, GA, was minutes from being off duty when he encountered a speeding pickup truck going 98 mph. The deputy was an ICE (Interstate Criminal Enforcement) officer that dealt with traffic infractions, speeding and the occasional drug bust. This was a low risk or unknown risk stop for speeding. He radioed in the speeding infraction, made a U-turn in the median and pursued the vehicle. The driver, Andrew Brannan, stopped his vehicle, exited and started a crazy, dancing jig in the middle of the road while swearing at the officer and shouting Im a god-damned Vietnam vet. At first, he ignored Dinkhellers commands to step towards the deputy, which always began with `Sir. When he finally complied, he attacked the deputy and a scuffle ensued. The deputy implemented the use of his asp and ordered Brannan to `get back. This procedure was repeated, but after what appeared to be a second scuffle, the suspect returned to his vehicle and retrieved a M-I Carbine from under the seat. The first shots were fired nearly 50 seconds after Brannan returned to his vehicle despite the deputys commands. Brannan ignored the repeated commands to put the gun down and Deputy Dinkheller apparently fired the first shot. Brannan, a Vietnam veteran, advanced firing on the deputy. Dinkheller returned fire, but succeeded only in breaking a window in the drivers side of the pickup and wounding Brannan in the stomach. Using `suppressive fire, Brannan systematically, methodically shot Dinkheller in the arms, legs, exposed areas that would not be covered had Dinkheller been wearing a bulletproof vest, slowly executing him. Reloading his weapon Brannan continued firing with the final death shot to Dinkhellers right eye. "The entire incident was videotaped by a camera in Deputy Dinkheller's patrol car. On January 28, 2000, the suspect was found guilty of murder and was sentenced to death two days later."

Why would this be posted on YouTube? Seems like something that shouldn't be glorified in that way.

FYI, that's not the only thing I'm disturbed by, but that's just something I'm thinking.

What hurts the most is how ANYONE can take a human life and not feel any remorse, any hesitation, and simply drive away.

unreal. I hope that guy is burning in hell.

this is why the Tazer was invented. Today, that cop would have just tazered the suspect and likely still be alive.

People die when you slice the PIE.

Dude....I couldn't make it as a cop. The first time someone fires a gun at me....it's over. I'm ending his life.

Fires a gun? Youre as good as dead. Id of shot his ass the second i though he was gonna produce a weapon. Maybe you lose your job but atleast you go home.

I know the story, this is an old video that has been on Cops or Scariest Police Chases or some show like that. That’s probably how it got on YouTube, copied from the show it was on.

True.

I just think it's insulting to the police officer who died to have people watching his death over and over again.

And facing charges for police brutality.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

I can see both sides. i think it is important that the average citizen see this type of stuff to be able to understand WHY cops ask you to do what they do. WHY cops sometimes shoot before being shot at.

People are very quick to judge actions sometimes based on the end result. If more people know how crazy things can get, I think there would be less unfair judgement.

According to the poster on the other site this video is being used on a gun forum by an owner of a firearm training facility to show that cops are in need of more training.

At the same time, you know there are some equally crazy people who think it's funny. Personally, I just think death is sacred and isn't something that should be relived for the sake of entertainment or education. Again, that's just my opinion.

this is why i couldnt be a cop even though id be awesome at it.;)

I posted it for discussion and gave ample warning to how disturbing it is.

That's just heartbreaking. My thoughts go out to the family of the officer.

true, but while it is shocking, it at least does not show his actual death or remains. I do find the clips online of actual death and dead people repulsive.

WTF man. Disturbing doesn't describe this video.

anyhow...yeah, if he pulled a gun after doing his little cooky dance, I would've began firing immediatly.

Cops need to have really badass guns to use. Seems the perp probably had more firepower.

Really sad.

again, then youd more than likely be dead.

The drop is everything next to a kill shot.;)

It's not a criticism. It was a comment.

He’s dead. He doesn’t care.
I can understand that the family would be upset, having to live through the moment over and over, but hopefully some good can come from it like what Nzoner posted below.

looked like an sks, i kept waiting for him to pop the trunk and bust out the ar.

For all of you cop haters, I'd like to see you be this patient. Cops don't get paid enough to deal with all the crazy assholes in the world.

Didn't take it as criticism,just stating why I posted it and so far the discussion has been good.

Exactly.

I think it's an insult to his honor, let me specify. Perhaps there were things he could have done differently, perhaps he did everything perfectly. Either way, he didn't die on some grand mission, he died trying to give someone a speeding ticket.

If you were to die in that way and had a choice for the video to be used over and over again as training, etc even though you knew your family would be left to endure it, would you?

It's an M1 carbine. The insane thing is the cop is watching him load it when he's standing at the driver's door in the beginning.

Yup. That asshole should have been shot in the legs at least when he went for the gun. Torture would certainly be justified for this one who sucks the penis.

If it's used for the sole purpose of training- Yes! However, this isn't solely used for training. It's on YouTube because some asshat believes the public ought to view it for its entertainment value. If it was used solely for the purpose of training, we'd never see it.

was the cop just not armed? Like I don't get that at least from what I was observing that he even fired a shot? Did he?

I would. Whether it's a military mission, a cop doing his job, or an average worker, if something can be learned and taught from my death to prevent others, by all means.

Yes. This video show cops need to be far less hesitant when dealing with crazy, non compliant assholes. If this video teaches one cop to be quicker thinking and acting and saves their own life or some innocent bystander, then good.

There's nothing wrong with showing this video. What's been done is done; and I wouldn't give two shits who saw it after I was gone. I'm sure my family would be sensible enough to understand why the video was being viewed and for what purposes it was being used and hopefully wouldn't have an issue either.

this may seem unrelated, but it's slightly related and I'm curious....are you an organ donor?

If my death was instrumental is saving other lives, yes. That is the “grandest mission” of all. And I would hope my family could find honor in that.

He is, but he has (most likely in 1998) a 6 shot .38 cal revolver, or perhaps a semi-automatic pistol. But he is very much out-gunned by the semi-auto rifle in stopping power and number of shots.

he probably did get shots off, but he was driven to cover and it would be pretty difficult for someone to get off accurate shots on a suspect with a semi-auto rifle who has you pinned down.

You guys need to read the story. The cop had a hand gun and fired the first shot, 50 SECONDS AFTER THE GUY RETURNED TO HIS CAR! I'd have capped him after he started reaching around in the car, if not sooner.

ftr, when I die, don't record it even if you guys could use it, even if I'm naked and someone wants to use it as art. BUT, if someone does record it, let it be henceforth known that I DO NOT want people watching me die over and over again. My guess is though, whatever way I die will probably not need to be studied to further the human race in any way.

I'm curious as to how you think it's slightly related.

sorry, I generally only read picture books

like i told my old lady, 'weapons are made for killin, not wounding'.

if you die eating sushi, it could be interesting. Probably have to edit the last bit out though.

Man the whole thing's terrible.Especially the part where you can hear the poor guy screaming as he's beng shot!:cuss:

if it's okay to use someone's death for others to learn and you're okay with people watching your death so others can learn....then it seems reasonable you would also be ok with your dead body to be used so others can learn. It seems there's a correlation there at least to me, it does.

shoots the drivers glass out just before crazy guy slices pie.

I'm an organ donor. I don't give a shit what happens to me when I'm dead. Because....I'm dead.

Yup. You put a jacketed hollow point center mass or run away.
The fact that the purp took one in the gut and kept coming indicates to me the cop was using a smaller caliber, probably a 9mm so he could carry more ammo. One .45 ACP jacketed hollow point in the gut and that dude sits down and doesn’t want anymore.

There's no correlation. As I stated earlier, this video should ONLY be available to law enforcement personnel for the sole purpose of training. The public learns absolutely nothing from this other than the fact that it's a dangerous job to be a police officer. Something the majority of the public already knew. This video you and everyone else is commenting on was posted on YouTube for entertainment and entertainment alone. 'Cause unfortunately, there's still a small percentage of ****tards on this planet that get their jizzles up over something like this.

As for being a donor, you do so because you want to be able to be able to extend the life of another being because there's not enough donors out there in this world. Being a donor doesn't mean, "Geuss what, videotape my naked dead body and post it on YouTube for the entertainment of others."

OK, since it matters to you, yes I am an organ donor.

my question wasn't about posting it on youtube, it was about using it for education, you tube not an option.

I wonder how many more years the pile of shit got to live before his appeals ran out. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if he was still alive.

IMO, the officer would have been justified tazing him from 40 secs to 1:10 and shooting him any point from then on.

You can hear his final gasps for air. That was horrible.

It doesn't matter to me, I was curious if those of you who felt it was okay to use the video for education purposes also felt it was okay to use your own body for education purposes. I really wasn't meaning for it to be an argument.

I was curious if

a. Yes, use the video for education = yes, I would also use my dead body for education

still appealing as of May 2009.

http://dockets.justia.com/browse/sta...cat-6/nos-535/

He should have tazed him the moment he was dancing. A man died who didn't deserved to die and another man lives who doesn't deserve to live. Think about this the next time a video is posted about a cop using a tazer too early on someone. There's loads of videos out there where cops are chastised for tazing or using effective force too soon.

Yeah, that part was just ****ed....that asshole deserves to fry.

Figures,taxpayers have been supporting this worthless POS ever since the murder.

thats the sound of fear and frustration. Bone chilling.

this incident occured before Tazers were in wide use by law enforcement.

:shake: With evidence like this there shouldn’t be any appeals.

unreal. wtf is left to appeal?

I'm not sure tazers even existed in 1998.

Thanks for all the comments....this is one I'm going to skip watching.

mmmm....crossthread humor. And I might have to let that be recorded so that I could say I did it and be a legend on CP.

his arguments have included ineffective counsel, mental health issues, and even "the impact his mother would feel from his execution"

I have a HiDef camcorder. 7:00 work for you?

I bring this up and it seems noone remembers Dave Tate....how did he not get the death penalty?

if I didn't have to drive to freaking Nebraska to get it done....

Fine, execute her too for spawning the POS.

oh, I'm in Kansas. :)

If that was my relative he killed, I'd pay the most disease infected guys in prison to gang rape him every day.

ROFL

I'm sure it's the government's fault for putting a gun in his hands in the first place.

The un-born (at the time of the incident) son this officer never knew is now 12 years old.

No problem, execute all of them as well.

seems like alot of the videos of firefights show the cops using poor tactics.