I don't care about 0-4 in the preseason, but I'm concerned about...
 

... our #1 D looking lost in the first couple of drives of each game. I saw that in some regular season games as well last year and I hope it's not become a KC Chiefs signature.

As improved as we are on paper we cannot afford to start getting it together 14 points behind with the regular season opponents we will have.

Thoughts?

I'm still on the 11-5+ bandwagon.

5+:spock:

Playing possom

16-0

First round playoff loss

Frankie thread. Doomed before it ever started. Frankie bashers in 3, ... 2, ... 1, ...

I'm a little concerned about the team breaking in half midseason.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Subtle, yet funny

ahhhhh :thumb:

Anal warts? :shrug:

I'm concerned that Frankie doesn't look like John from Garfield. That's how I've always pictured him.

It's Jon, actually.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V3VbfaAi7h...600/jon_bd.jpg

No, you're still on meth, little buddy. De-friend me, if you want. No skin off my ass.

4-12, nothing more.

Can't wait to pull this up right before the playoff game.

SHAMEY ON YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

There's no way in hell we lose more than 5 of these games.

I always pictured 4th and long to look like a hairless Yogi Bear. I hope I'm right.

4th, you're the one I most revere, here. nuff said.

So you have decided a 13-3 season.

Thanks fans.

Guys, please stay on task and talk only about the thread topic posted

Hi, I doubt any of you have been following the Chargers, but our Run D is atrocious.
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So we have a chance......

You guys are toast this year.

I do not begrudge your opinion, my friend. My previuos post was filled with Kool-Aid and Homerism. I saw the last Superbowl we were in, and won. I'm still waiting for the next one.

Stay on task? If Haley can pull us into the playoffs, I'm holding the next Planet bash. Burnt ends for everybody!

Your Mother's ass.

The thing that can save us this year is our division. Even with a shitty record I think we can win it again, cause the rest of our division will be pretty bad. We may be last year's Seahawks.

Liuget not working out?

I know Garay is a good player.

will the earthquake cause the mighty Mo to run backwards?

Just like they were before Ron Rivera was brought in?

Ours has been worse than atrocious for the first two drives. Then something happens and they wake up. But like I said, as a Chiefs fan I'm truly worried about that little habit.

Liuget has looked good against the pass, but not the run.

Garay has been out. Hopefully when he comes back we improve.
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My concern after watching that early drive is that teams will target Studebaker at the LOLB position all year long in the run game. They need to get Houston or Sheffield on the field early and often. That's what I see as really the only vulnerable spot on the field now.

Offensively, I've relaxed a little. They looked I thought a good deal better than the last three weeks, even in the stalled first drive, and I think they might just be okay against Buffalo, which was I believe what Haley's intention was. But we'll see. Only time will tell.

6-10. Last years cupcake schedule is past, and Weiss is gone. Plus no injuries last year and several guys had career/last gasp years. This still is not a very good team.

19 and 0!!!!!!!

How about Cam Thomas?

is it stude or jackson or both?

i thought jackson looked like his usual puss self...i didn't catch much of the 2nd half...

The Chiefs are soft against the run. Gonna be a long season if they can't fix it. People will say stuff like,"If it wasn't for that 1 long run we'd have been ok." Problem is they will be saying it every game.

Agree in part but the problems against the run are two-tier. The DL has a several weak links that will also be exploited....

Seems pretty clear to me that when you have Studebaker & Jackson on the same side, that screams to me weak link and teams are taking advantage of it.

I think Houston will replace Studebaker soon enough so I'm not too concerned about that.

But Tyson, wow. Really missing Shaun Smith right about now.

That's something that has been bothering me as well. We are not built to come from behind every game. That shit needs to be fixed asap. The only lproblem is I don't think you can fix it in one week.

Exactly. 9 wins is our ceiling, 8 if we're lucky. Our schedule is brutal, but our division is a joke.

I don't agree that we'll win "8 if we're lucky" and I'll tell you why. It's is because of our division. We were 2-4 last year within the division. If we dramatically improve there, winning 10 games is very possible.

The Chiefs D looked great last night after Aaron Rodgers grabbed some bench. Their 2nd stringer, made Palko look legit.

I think that the d getting gouged just goes to show that in the NFL, one blown assignment or missed gap can lead to a big gain. I know we didn't quite have the preaseason we wanted but it is steal preseason

Meh, in the preseason, not all teams fully open their playbooks. I think that probably explains our O.

But this thing about falling into an early hole is a bad trend with the Chiefs that goes back a few years with us. I want to see our D come out aware and clicking at the very beginning of the games. A little frustrating when they seem to sleepwalk through the first couple of enemy drives.

Why do people keep saying our division sucks? Yeah, the Donkeys suck, but that's about it.

SD has Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates back healthy. Phillip Rivers is an Elite QB. Chiefs fans, it's time for you guys to accept it. As long as Rivers is in the Division, the Chargers will always be a division contender.

Oakland Returns with #2 Rushing Offense in the NFL and they pounded the division last year
....

Yeah, Denver, you suck.

It's going to take 11 wins to take the division, at least.

Our division always plays us tough. I remember when SD was 1-15 and we were their one and only win. They play us hard no matter what. But I don't think anyone in our division will fare as well against the rest of the schedule.
I would be pretty shocked if anyone in the AFC west gets 11 wins this year.

LMAO

you're on crack ... the Chiefs could be playing well and lose 5 straight


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I think they lose all 5 of those games.

I don't think Jackson's a puss as much I think he doesn't always do what exactly what he's supposed to. Which in this defense is a big deal. But I do think he does an adequate job of occupying his guy(s).

I think too many people (and I don't mean you when I'm saying this, just making a general comment...) are expecting the wrong thing from our d-line. This is not the Cowboys defense, these guys are not busting upfield to make plays in the backfield. That's just not their role. And I think failing to grasp that is what leads to so many people (starting with the media) complaining about Jackson and (I'm expecting...) Gregg and even Dorsey. Not taking down ball carriers in the backfield and not sacking quarterbacks does not mean they're playing poorly. Because, basically, the only time they get to go after guys is when a blocking assignment is completely whiffed. The rest of the time it's boring old trench work. Now if they get blown off the ball, that's another story. But most of the time their job is about holding people up so the linebackers are free to do their thing.

And unfortunately, Studebaker doesn't appear to be able to do that a lot of the time. He's not very agile or quick laterally, he doesn't have any speed in pursuit and he doesn't have the experience and knowledge that in the past let Vrabel compensate (to a degree) for those same limitations. I think we're going to see a lot of people targetting the left side of the defense this year, and while some of that may well be Jackson (he's not Dorsey...), I think the real weak link is Stude. Too many running plays this preseason have been stalled at the line, and then taken outside where he doesn't have the speed to cut them off before they get the corner.

Could lose them all.

Will they? Doubtful.

There's the problem. Stop doing that.

Yeah but its just my opinion.

Don't get me wrong I like both Sheff and Houston better that Studebaker. I don't know about last night but in the previous games a lot of the opponents' success in their initial drives were due to our players over shooting the backfield and playing themselves out of the play.

Both Sheff and Houston's styles are more aggressive than Studey's. Though as non-starters they had little involvement in the 1st couple of drives once they are in they have to learn to protect against overplaying the rush.

I need to see Houston and The Sheriff play better in run support before I go crying that Studebaker should be benched.

If Buffalo gains 20+ yards on an off-tackle run to the right on their opening play I'm gonna huck a rock through my TV.

I thought we took care of the up the middle stuff by signing Craig and Amon whoever.

As for the edge runs I can see what you are saying. Especially our left side.

You don't watch much Chiefs football, do you?

I can't believe I started feeling OK about Palko after the 3rd preseason game. His consecutive passes to Copper which he dropped (and possibly lost his job) were the only brief moments Palko looked good, IMO.

If there's 1 thing I'm pissed about after that game, it's this:

The Bake has done nothing to establish himself, and is being outplayed by his back-ups. Why not let Houston/Sheffield get some time in with the 1's?

It's a two-parter: Same exact thing, except regarding Jackson/Gilberry/Bailey.

The left side has consistently shown problems all preseason when those guys are in there.

Man that's not right. :eek:

I'm concerned about your mother's vagina. her ass is perfectly fine, but her vagina is rather...how do the kids say these days... stank. hey, that rhymes with skank! :)

You don't watch much Chiefs football, do you?

;):evil:

Stay tuned.

yeah, I know. it felt feeble to me too. my heart just isn't in it. I mean, it gets rather monotonous and boring with the same old insults. y'know?

I mean, if I was feeling creative, I could break out a burqa joke. I could make another geriatric comment. I could make a suicide bomber joke. the material is endless, yet I revert to the old stuff? I'm disappointed in me too. :(

My Comment was regarding Craig and Amon Whatever....Not the Left side....

damn, man. I KNEW you reminded me of gollum!

ROFL

You know what sucks about these last 5 games for me...

I am unable to predect the future of the NFL like you guys... Shit its a long season and I cant predict injuries, games and stats...

So All I can say is I am glad they can actually play the games, otherwise you guys would just fold the team permanently out of fear...

I don't disagree with either of those statements. Well, no, I do disagree with "players overshooting the backfield and playing themselves out of plays". That doesn't happen much with the starters. But I'm not saying Sheffield and Houston should start now. I am saying that I think Studebaker is a weak link and I hope one of them is ready at some point during the season (I expect they both will be).

And in the end, if it's about a young guy learning, I will take overpursuit over not able to reach the play 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. But that's just me. Call it the price of doing business

Your boyfriend told us you were locked in a 69. Nice to see you can type in that position. What else is your specialty? Oh, wait, just tell me when we meet.

In the Ram's game it seemed like it was happening on every other play in the Ram's first two drives.

About the crisis that fell of the face of the world.

See me world. Kill the dissenter.

Why?

Not that it matters in the big picture of things, but Sheffield, in the first three preseason games has played better in run support than Studebaker.

But Studebaker offers you nothing at that spot.

Both Houston and Shef are far more athletic and faster and will make more plays by accident than Studebaker will by design.

I think someone else fell off the wagon. Mark that post for us.