Will the Chiefs still draft a QB?
 

With Cassel/Stanzi/Quinn now on board, do you think they we still draft a QB?


I say no...

I think Quinn was brought in because of his familiarity with Daboll's offense. -Won't be cut-

Both Cassel is Pioli golden-boy and Stanzi was drafted under Pioli. -Niether will be cut-

We aren't going to go into the season with 4 QBs on the roster.

Damn well better.

Polio said you have to draft a QB in every draft so I am thinking he'll grab one in the later rounds.
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Doubtful now. If they do it won't be till late.

I see the Brady Quinn signing as the perfect smokescreen to prevent anyone from thinking that they need to trade in front of us to take Tannehill.

Maybe in the later rounds.

Nope.

We've done all we could to prepare this offense for a QB.

I can only hope the next step is to actually try to draft one...

Depends whether they sign Manning or not...

I agree, but Jacksonville also bought a smoke screen...Henne for 2 years, they aren't sure about Cleveland.

Yep. We're gonna draft one.

Seems unlikely with two projects (Quinn and Stanzi) on the roster already. Hopefully the Chiefs are in a position to take a legit QB prospect early in the draft next year.

Sorry, but Quinn has been in the league way too long to still be called a project. He is what he is, a career backup.

Damn I love your positive thinking and strategy here:thumb:

What's everyone's thought about Hasselbeck if Manning chooses the Titans? When Hasselbeck has had the talent around him with a good O-line he has always produced and has been to a SB. I realize his best days are behind him but he is still better than Cassel.

I'm not sure I even want Tannehill. I dont want to draft a QB just for the sake of doing it. We need the right QB

We already have 3 projects on the roster....why not add a 4th! :facepalm:

Works for me but it won't happen cause he'd beat Casshole out in about 3 passes.

No. Shame too because the most important position on the team will set them back. :shake:

Beyond Luck, RGIII, and possibly Tannehill, there are no solutions to our QB problem in this draft

I would draft Foles with our second rounder.

You know what would be real nice?

Richardson drops to 11 and the Bengals offer their #17 pick and their second rounder to move up to take him.

We take Konz or Decastro at 17 and Foles with our original second rounder and Chapman or one of the good backs that could fall to our pick.

The line is fixed and looks to be in God mode for a few years...we have a good quarterback prospect as well as a pretty good nose guard, too.

Whatdoyathink?

What do I think? I think I just came a little.

I'm a big fan of foles, even as an ASU fan.

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I like this.

I think the answer is no on "will they", but yes on "should they". With the rules of the game today and the fact that it is so dangerously out of balance toward offense and the pass, a smart team today should spend every single draft pick on quarterbacks every single year until they find a franchise guy. Then when that guy is in place you start drafting other positions.

NFL football is starting to disgust me. It's a quarterback and 21 bit players now. I see no reason why a kid today would start playing the defensive backfield. Either be a quarterback or go take math and science courses.

I wonder how this gay pic came about? Seriously.

"Hey bros! know what would be funny? If we all took a pic where we grabed each others junk, bros"

Sidenote. I'm gonna try this at a bar sometime with a couple of chicks.

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Funny how things can change over the course of a single season.

Prior to this last season of college football, I though the top three quarterbacks, come draft time, would be

Luck
Barkley
Foles

I was a big fan of Foles and thought that if he played well, he could very well be the second qb off the board.

Here we are, a month away from the draft and the top 3 are

Luck
Rg3
Tanehill

And Foles is a 2/3 rounder.

Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if we moved up from our second rounder to take him because I think he is vastly underrated by most everybody.

draft a qb and have 4 qbs under contract? probably not. Signing quin really intrigues me. Crennel drafting him. I remember him being a really good college player. How old is he? 27? Hopefully he beats cassel out for the starting spot. hopefully stanzi beats them all out.

For whatever reason, the front office has little faith in Stanzi. Unless Quinn has a miraculous series of performances, this could be his last stop in the NFL. I think Pioli drafts a QB and hopes for a sleeper. If he finds one, Quinn is gone. If not, they cut either the late round pick or Stanzi.

How could they possibly improve THAT group of all stars??? Don't even try! ROFL

I voted no. We might pick one up in the later rounds, but that would just be for training camp fodder, so I did not count that. I think the signing of Quinn sealed the deal. Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi will be our qb's, and probably in that order.

They absolutely should not draft a QB this year. You are automatically reaching for anyone, because the elite propects are gone. If we can trade down, then hopefully it gives us firepower to move up next year for Landry or another top prospect.

**** Barkley though. USC turd quarterbacks.

So drafting a project late is a reach?

This is so jacked up, it's hard to know where to begin.

"Elite" QBs only go at the top of the first round, right? Tom Brady, Joe Montana and a host of others are laughing at you.

And, for my money, if KC could get Barkley next year, I wouldn't think twice...you do that in a heart beat.

Elite QB PROSPECTS - that's different than elite QB. The guys with obvious, unarguable potential go early. Tannehill at 11?? Are you ****ing kidding me?

And if one more person brings up Tom Brady as an example of how to draft and develope a QB I'm going to murder someone.

People win the lottery. That doesn't make it a good bet.

Did you watch Barkley? Living in LA, I end up seeing a lot of USC games. The guy just seems way too overhyped for me. It's the same as Palmer, leinert, Sanchez...surrounded by NFL talent in a weak conference. The guy had the best left tackle in the draft and two LEGIT first round picks at wide receiver.

No thanks.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

It's a bandaid.

We did that with Stanzi. I want a TOP qb prospect that the players, coaches, and front office are behind as the future from day one.

Enough projects.

It sucks. I'm not saying it doesn't. But it's the reality of missing out on Manning, Luck, and RG3.

I don't want us to go Vikings style and reach for a Christian Ponder.

Sell me on 4 or 5 quarterbacks coming out next year that are better than Tanehill.

With the amount of talent this team has, we will almost assuredly make the playoffs and be picking well out of range of the elite guys.

If I have the choice between taking Tanehill now (while Cassel is entrenched as the starter, anyway and Tanehill could sit and learn as he should) or waiting next year HOPING FOR A GUY LIKE LANDRY ****ING JONES....well, Ill take the bird in the hand.

From what I can tell, the kid has natural instincts for the position...has a live arm...is very mobile...is smart...

His only real drawback seems to be inexperience. Te rest is there.

If you say Landry Jones, Im gonna kindly ask you to go to your local wal mart...purchase 1 large glass and a gallon of Peak Antifreeze (tm) and dont stop drinking that shit till the jug is gone.

Obvious, unarguable potential like who??? David Carr, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf...the list goes on and on. Are YOU f'ing kidding me???

Don't like Tom Brady. Fine. What about Drew Brees? Don't like him? Okay, I could name a dozen other non-first round, non "elite" QBs who had very productive NFL careers. However, we all know that you don't have to be a high first round pick to develop into a great QB in the NFL, right?

I watched Barkley too...I live in California and see most USC games. You give nothing to back up your dislike for Barkley. The kid can make all of the throws, he's very competitive, and he is a leader. I'm not a USC fan, but that kid looks pretty darn good to me.

Landry Jones. Request denied.

"the list goes on" is a euphemism for "I have no other examples."

And i gave a very legitimate reason for not liking Barkley. The usc system surrounds good College QB with elite NFL talent. I dont trust Barkley at all to transition to the pros, where the other team has speed, size, and strength as well.

To your other point:

Of COURSE there are plenty of capable quarterbacks take. In later rounds. I'm talking about prospects.

And bringing up busts only supports my point that QB prospects with OBVIOUS potential are snagged as early as possible.

Every ****ing year we hear this total crap.

"next year is better to get our franchise quarterback"

then, next year comes and

"well, we are just out of range....just look at how many franchise quarterbacks are in the next draft"

rinse and repeat.

Is Tanehill a sure thing?

No, no draft pick is.

Does he have the tools to do everything that Cassel does?

Without question he does, and the potential to do a whole lot more.

He isnt a pussy, so he does have that going for him.

sapho...you can't even argue your own point. The point is that there are busts at every stage of the draft. There are very few sure things out there, especially at the QB position. Obvious potential means nothing, Ryan Leaf had more "obvious potential" than did Peyton Manning (according to most GMs and draft experts at the time).

Greatness at QB is not dependent on being a high first round pick.

As for euphemisms...I have no interest in listing 50 busts just for your amusement. You're the one that has the jacked up reasoning here. Show us how many HOF QBs were "elite" prospects coming out of college? Johnny Unitas can't wait to hear you bungle through that strained logic again.

I'm with you BossChief. I think Tannehill has at least as much talent as Dalton did a year ago, and Dalton looks like he will do well in Cincy...with very marginal talent around him. I don't think Tannehill would be a bad pick at all where the Chiefs are picking.

TBH Stanzi has as much talent as Dalton. That's not just an Iowa fan telling you that, either. Look up Mayock or Kiper or most of the other draft guys takes on him and pretty much everybody said Stanzi was in the same class as Dalton and Ponder.

Im just tired of this team only having one option...even though we already have Stanzi I would be totally ok with making a move to grab what they might see as a legit option for a franchise quarterback to "double up" on the position...remember, we interviewed the kid at the combine.

I wonder if they will get him in for a private workout.

So what does our QB depth chart look like after we draft Foles? Are we cutting Cassel?

I know we should, but that's not what will happen.

What, I'm not rude...Ill wave goodbye to Brady Quinn when he is cut.

Or

If they feel like Stanzi just inst getting the mental part of the game and that Quinn is...then you cut Stanzi.

Cassel
Tanehill
Stanzi/Quinn

Im a Chiefs fan that happens to like Stanzi...not the other way around. I just want a real quarterback and am not willing to waste 3 or 4 more years waiting forever for NEXT YEAR when an option is there THIS YEAR that is probably every bit as good as the guys that would be available to us NEXT YEAR.

If that means we have to call it on the Stanzimania, so be it.

Hell, its not out of the question to keep 4 quarterbacks, either. Shit we basically kept 2 fullbacks last year in McClain and Battle...whats the difference?

This roster is stacked...time to make a real attempt to upgrade at quarterback

Whether that is in the first with Tanehill or Foles in the second, I don't really care.

That's why 1 was a 2nd round pick the other was a 5th round pick.

I'm with you on that, but I'm also not a fan of drafting project guys only to abandon their progress so quickly. They're projects. They take time. They need coaching, training camp snaps, and time on the sidelines during games finding out just how different the NFL is from the NCAA.

Personally, I don't see what others do in Foles. I like his size and athletic attributes a lot, but he's kind of like a smaller version of Brock Osweiler only with a slightly better arm. From the game footage of Arizona I just don't see the NFL throw. I see a guy with a big arm, but it's not connecting. It's not dissecting the defense. It's throwing to open guys down the field and checking down, just like Cassel. And the throws downfield aren't that impressive. He's not even close to threading needles like Luck does. Hell, he doesn't even thread needles like Kirk Cousins does. He's got a lot to work on his arm to make it more compact and accurate, and I'd rather not waste several seasons on that bullshit.

We've got a year invested in Stanzi. That's good. We're making progress there. What we SHOULD be doing is trying to find a team that would be willing to sacrifice a first round pick in next year's draft. Let's say Trent Richardson is available at 11 and the Redskins want him. We should absolutely take the Redskins' 2nd rounder this year and their 1st rounder next year plus some other draft pick. It puts us in a good position to have a QB available to us next year, and if we're still out of reach, now we have added firepower to trade up and grab a first round guy who doesn't need the bullshit coached out of him like Foles does.

Basically, I'm saying it's fine to have a project QB. It's fine to have two project QBs if you want to be thorough. It's ****ing idiocy to take a project QB and replace him with another project QB the next year, though. Either you upgrade the position, get better depth, or go fist your grandmother and wait another 40 years for a Super Bowl, because it doesn't do any good sitting around playing with yourself pretending you're doing something about the QB position when you're just keeping the status quo.

I was thinking this

I think it would be a wasted pick at this point unless someone with great potential dropped into our lap.

I'll be really happy if we pickup Lindley in the fourth or fifth round i see Lindley as having as much potential as Tannehill without taking the first round risk.

I voted yes on hope.

With this team?

I voted no, but that said I would prefer Foles over Tannehil just because you can likely get him in the second round. I just don't see Tannehil as being an NFL caliber starter.

NO ... but whats up with Stanzi he has the phys .. is he really stump-dumb .....

-Tannehill
-Foles
-Lindley

I would love if we drafted either of these guys. Have the 4 QBs compete in camp and cut the worst one. [Cassel]

no way the Chiefs draft a QB.
I will eat a stick of deodorant if they do.

I don't necessarily disagree with that but I think the Chiefs disagree. I suppose we will get more insight on that from the draft and/or from preseason.

The Chiefs have enough projects. Lindley (or any other late round project pick) is the same as Stanzi. There is no benefit to Lindley unless the Chiefs are cutting Stanzi. What the Chiefs don't have is a 1st round QB. This year or next, they have to draft a 1st round QB.

Casey Keenum in the fifth.

Does that sound enough like a horse race to ya?

Yes in the 6th round. That's where u get the true competition for Matt.

Draft a mid-rounder!!

Washington is all done with first round picks for awhile.

I can agree that replacing one project with another isn't optimum, but we need to make a move that will pay dividends in a year or two, immediately.

30 on his Wonderlic... :shrug:

I wish I knew what their real plans/thoughts are on Stanzi.

Is anyone foreshadowing him being cut in the near future? Ugh, I hope not. I love Stanzi.

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KC Star's @adamteicher says it "wouldn't surprise me" if Chiefs draft QB in first 2 rounds. Flexible to do just about anything.

Teicher....the Chiefs won't go into the season with 4 backup QBs.
and they sure as hell aren't doing it in the first 2 rounds. I could see a 5th or 6th if they trade down at someponit and get an extra late/luxury pick.

Cassel is their guy. the only competition will be for the back up depth chart.

They don't consider Quinn a "project".

And there is no way that they draft a QB and cut Quinn because they won't be going into the season with basically two rookie QBs behind Cassel.

If they draft Tannehill.....wave goodbye to Stanzi.

FYP

810 was talking about who would get cut if they drafted a QB.

Everyone agreed it would be Stanzi.

Like I said....do you seriously believe that they would cut Quinn and roll with Cassel and basically 2 rookie QBs? Not going to happen.

If that does happen.....then I hope you're happy watching Cassel play all 16 games no matter how shitty he is. Tannehill is a project by every definition of the word. They're not going to throw him out there and **** him up even worse.

No, if we draft Tannehill, Stanzi is gone. Not Quinn.

Sheesh we already tried the whole going into the season with 2 unknowns. They won't do it again.

Stanzi is either gone or he'll be on the practice squad all year.

That's a guess.

If Stanzi were to be pushed to the practice squad, I would think someone would take a flyer on him.

Not saying I think he's anything special. Just saying be prepared to lose him if they try that.

Somewhere at or after the 5th round.

That's why I don't think we take a QB this year. They can give Stanzi an actual offseason to let him learn and see if he has "it". They can give Quinn a chance to prove himself in a new situation and they can give Cassel a year a fall on his ass.

They're not going to cut Stanzi for Tannehill.

Primarily because they're not going to draft Tannehill.