Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs BY ADAM TEICHER
 

Pioli doesn’t know why Manning spurned Chiefs
BY ADAM TEICHER

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli said today he wasn’t aware why quarterback Peyton Manning spurned the Chiefs, and Pioli never asked him why.

“When this whole process started, after he was released, he and I were in communication with one another, as I was with his agent,’’ Pioli said on the same day that the division-rival Broncos announced they had signed Manning. “He had a plan, and he let me know that. He didn’t get into the details. He was up front about what he was doing and some of the visits he wanted to take and that we weren’t initially going to be a part of that, and I respected that.

“He had a plan and he executed it. He didn’t explain to me nor did I ask . . . I don’t think it was my place to do that. Those private conversations with a guy like Peyton, I don’t think it’s my place to divulge what he and I talked about or communicated about.’’

Manning wound up meeting with the Broncos, Cardinals, Titans and Dolphins. Other interested teams, including the Chiefs, couldn’t get an audience with him.

“That doesn’t necessarily mean the other teams he wasn’t going to talk to, that there was anything wrong with those places,’’ Pioli said. “He just had favorites and places he wanted to pursue for his reasons. I don’t think it would be fair for me to characterize why those teams and why not other teams. It’s not really my place to do that.’’

Asked why he didn’t press Manning on the issue, Pioli said, “If you spend time and energy and emotion fretting over things you can’t control, that’s time and energy we would have wasted not getting Eric Winston done, not getting Kevin Boss done and not getting the other players done.’’

Pioli said the Chiefs notified starting quarterback Matt Cassel that they would be attempting to contact Manning.

“He was aware of it before, during and after,” Pioli said. “Matt is aware there’s going to be competition. There’s nothing to hide from him. Peyton was available, we were interested and Matt knew about that.’’

Instead of Manning, the Chiefs signed Brady Quinn, who joins Cassel and Ricky Stanzi at quarterback. Quinn said Monday he was told Cassel would be the starting quarterback.

The Chiefs had earlier indicated they would bring in someone to challenge Cassel for the starting spot.

“It’s something we were very clear with Brady about and something that’s abundantly clear to Matt and Ricky: The best players that give us the best chance to win on Sunday are going to be the ones to play,’’ Pioli said. “I think we have three quarterbacks on our roster that certainly have the potential and the ability to be starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So there is competition here. Brady has started and played in the National Football League. Ricky hasn’t done that yet, but I also think Ricky has some upside.’’

The Chiefs claimed Kyle Orton off waivers from Denver late last season, and he ended up starting three games for them. But the Chiefs were unable to re-sign him, and he instead joined the Cowboys as Tony Romo’s backup.

Pioli suggested that Orton’s contract with the Cowboys became too rich for the Chiefs.

“I know it was one heck of a contract he received,’’ Pioli said. “A very, very generous contract.’’

Posted on Tue, Mar. 20, 2012 01:45 PM


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy

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ROFL @ this organization.

I think I'd turn down an offer to come in and "compete" with Matt Cassel for roughly 2.5 mil a year, too, if I were Peyton Manning.

Nice. "We didn't get the biggest QB free agent in the history of ever, but we DID spend time energy, and emotion getting Kevin Boss and Peyton Hillis signed! Season tickets are still available!"

Not one red dime of mine this year, Scott.

Times Two ROFL

Pioli doesn't know why, because he's an arrogant smug butt-hole.

damn straight.

Can someone photoshop Peyton Manning littering Arrowhead with candy wrappers?

Pioli is flat lying when he said he doesn't know why.

Flat out lying.

"If you have two starting Quarterback, you don't have one."

**** me!

"we weren’t initially going to be a part of that"

Money talks.

I'm glad it worked out this way, though. Maybe we'll get a rookie high draft pick, sooner, rather than later.

I'm almost afraid to ask....but what is that?

really ... how many times have you talk to Pioli?

Cue ball

Cue

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lol.

I don't hear many people getting called a butt-hole anymore.

Pioli talks (screams) to him about all the ****ing trash he leaves in the stairwell.

:doh!:

simple. yet, effective.

I definitely didn't start a thread in the Streaming Video Test forum calling frazod a butthole, that's for sure.

You guys over react to every single article and bit of info that comes out, it ludicrous. What exactly were you expecting Pioli to say?

Yea it looks bad we got blown off by Manning, no shit. But again, what did you expect to hear? What GM would be answering this differently?


Oh nooooooooossssssss, this is just soooooo baaaaaaaddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never spoken to him, so it's an assumption on my part.

I don't see the problem.

He tried. Brokedick wanted more money.

Thank God

If he could just stop using the word 'competition', I would hate him less.

Be honest - "We believe that we have a franchise caliber quarterback in Matt..."

Everyone sees that's honestly what he thinks. He clearly has no interest in anyone actually pushing Matt Cassel because he believes in him.

He's wrong, but that's what he truly believes - why hide it at this point?

All it does is piss me off when he acts like I'm a kindergartner.

"process" "plan"

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KC Star's @adamteicher says it "wouldn't surprise me" if Chiefs draft QB in first 2 rounds. Flexible to do just about anything.

OMG WE'RE DRAFTING RGIII1!1!11!!!!!!

I don't really care that we didn't get PM, but Pioli claiming he didn't know 'why' Manning didn't include us is BS.

totally wild ass guess on my part, but I just don't see how if you PM and his Agent gave out an intial criteria in asking price/starting point, you wouldn't know 'why'.....unless the Chiefs didn't meet that threshold / well below it.

"I think we have three quarterbacks on our roster that certainly have the potential and the ability to be starting quarterbacks in the NFL."

He is satisfied the team has a roster of QBs that have the "potential" and "ability" to be starters. Nothing about the ability to win playoff games or Super Bowls, just be "starters".

Here is a better question for you. Read the article again and tell us where it actually says anywhere in the article that Pioli doesn't know why Manning didn't consider the Chiefs.

I'd say we could start with 5 years $96 mill.

Hunt is not going to pay that for 2 Manning's. And Peyton knew it, if he didn't, his agent sure the hell did. Waste of time.

so you're saying Pioli thinks Mediocre is good enough?

:shake:

Nice, Why do we continue to torture oursleves then? Because you are right. If they don't care about the QB we just don't have a chance. :mad:

“He had a plan and he executed it. He didn’t explain to me nor did I ask . . . I don’t think it was my place to do that. Those private conversations with a guy like Peyton, I don’t think it’s my place to divulge what he and I talked about or communicated about.’’



Sounds like bullshit to me, but I think that will answer your question.

More likely Peyton told Pioli EXACTLY why he didn't want to come here, and Pioli didn't care for it one bit. BUT, he can't flame him in the press over it, or else no free agent would want to come here while Pioli still had on office on premises.

JMO

Besides the title of the article?

Yes he does. He just doesn't want to admit that he's the problem.

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Scottt might want to look into getting one of these for his office or home.

Are you ****ing shitting me you arrogant, globular crime lord?

What the **** did you pay the crossbar-hitting wonder?

God, I hate this bastard more each time he opens his fat maw. Can't wait to see him hung by his own 60 million dollar rope.

Wow... I didn't know Piloi could control where Peyton wanted to play... Since when can another human make one other do something? He wanted to play in Denver... Reason, I don't know. We were not going to get Peyton anyways. So why would we waste time and energy doing something that we knew we were going to lose?
Hop off of the Pioli Bash Wagon... **** off.

Based on things I've heard today, no way we go quarterback.

Pioli's going to draft someone to help the Chiefs win in 2012.

Peyton Hillis, Kevin Boss, Stanford Routt, Eric Winston >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aged and injured Peyton Manning...

You ****ing choose.

We don't know what Manning is going to do yet. If he is healthy Peyton would help KC more than those free agents.

Great tickets still available!

I wanted Peyton but I really don't think he's worth that contract at this point. I don't care why we didn't get him anymore. Let's move on and put his dick in the dirt!

Spin, spin, spin.

It's the 90s all over again.

Great running team with D vs the team with the HOF QB.

Don't get me wrong. Scott has done very good this offseason but lets quit being such blind homers and acting like Peyton going to Denver is no big deal. It is.

**** you Fat Scott. **** you hard........

KC wasn't the only team to get snubbed.

Paul Allen got told to stick it also.

Signed - Steve Young & Joe Montana / Brett Favre & Aaron Rogers

Haley wondering outloud if his phone was bugged killed any chance
I hope they wouldn't have paid the price Manning got
They'll have to spend that money anyway, but not there

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I'm reaching for good news. The good news for me is that in he past, pioli would never talks like this. Methinks he knows the fans are pissed. And I hope that means he knows fans aren't happy with cassel either. Its not often you see pioli playing defense like this.

THIS

All you can do is make the call.

People act like Manning and his agent went off or something.

Here is how things went down in the minds of CP members.

SP: Hey Peyton, it's Scott Pioli with the Kansas City Chiefs.

PM: Who?

SP: Scott Pioli

PM: Listen up you fat fu@k candy wrapper littering fool, I don't want anything to do with your shit ass KC Chiefs. You know why? Its because you suck Scott. You're a fu@king dickhead, and I don't want any part of it. Would I like to play with Jamal Charles, D Bowe, and that awesome Defense of yours, yeah because I'd win three Super Bowls, but I don't want to do that because it would mean you win too, and I don't want to be part of that.

SP: OK

PM: I'm not done Scott. Listen, I'm going to fly to Denver. Hang out there for a few days. Then go to Arizona. WHY? Because I can. I'm not going to KC because I want to make you look like the a$$hole you really are. Got it? Then Bud Adams is going to offer me a ton of money, and people are going to say, "whoa, I knew it, Manning is going home to Tenn." Yeah, not so fast fu@kers. Then San Fran is going to get into the action, which will create a shit storm for Alex Smith, and then I'm going to sign with the Broncos. WHY? So I can beat your ass twice a year Scott.

PM: You suck Pioli, and now your fans know how much you are hurting their team by still being alive. Just wait until I put Eric Decker on my back and make him a pro bowler. it's going to be just like when Jesus made water into wine.

Have a nice life, Scott. fu@king dumbass.

SP: Hey Peyton, can we keep this just between us? Could I just say that you had a plan, and I didn't really know what the plan was, but we talked?

PM: Eat shit and die Scott.

I am a little shocked that he even addressed it.

I am coming over to that side. In 8 years, from total homer to just **** them.

Lots of my money and time freed up for this coming season. I guess even Romeo has been put in his place by Pioli in regards to Cassel.

the point of the article isn't whether or not Pioli could control where Manning wanted to sign.

the point of it was Pioli didn't know "why". Which is BS IMO.

I've always sort of had that respect but I hate relationship with Peyton Manning, pretty similiar to the way I felt about Elway, only Elway was a Bronco, so naturally I hated him a lot more. But I don't think we've ever beaten Peyton and they've always beat us in the playoffs, so i guess it's back to hating him.

Pioli wrote the title of the article? Odd.

it's just my assumption:shrug:

I assume eating a turd on a popsicle stick is nasty. I don't need someone to specically say "eating a turd on a popsicle is nasty" for me to assume that.

:D

I think you're ignoring the implications of it all... The Chiefs have a very obvious need at QB, an improving offense otherwise, and a defense on the rise. Most everything regarding the team itself looks pretty good. It should be a prime environment for someone in Peytons situation. The fact that Peyton wouldn't give us the time of day indicates a perception of the team outside of the players on the team themselves. It's strong indication of disfunction at the top. And this isn't the first report that would allude to this. Just more wood for the fire.

I'm disappointed we didn't get Manning, but that doesn't mean Pioli sucks at wooing free agents. It also doesn't mean he doesn't want someone to replace Cassel. All it means for certain is that Peyton wanted to go somewhere other than KC. Period.

Pioli and co. seem to have gotten their way with every other free agent they've been after this offseason. There could only be one winner in the Manning sweepstakes. Y'all need to calm down a bit. The only real QB option they avoided was Flynn and I'm not too sold on taking another backup that excelled briefly in an elite offense. Especially when his own OC didn't go after him. We have the competition in for QB that was available to us. Hopefully they continue to address it in the draft. (Now that our FA moves have made us flexible enough to do so.)

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I mean , clearly on the spectrum of Draftmasturbator / Castle Hater being on one side and Ballwasher of Mark Castle being on the other side, I am seen as more towards the Ballwasher end...(Although in reality I'm just in the middle)...HOWEVER.......I mean come on, wtf is this shit...? Even a ballwasher (which I claim that I am not) would have to be in favor for at least being in the running to get manning...and finding out why he wouldn't want to come to KC.

“I know it was one heck of a contract he received,’’ Pioli said. “A very, very generous contract.’’

Haha 3yrs 10 million.

I agree. I am sure Pioli knows why Peyton didn't want to consider us and I am sure its because of the money he was looking to get. Honestly I can't blame Pioli at that point because when I heard he was initially looking for 5 years and 90 millions as a starting point I was shocked. I am sure in this article Pioli is just trying to hide the fact that he didn't want to spend that much money, but I think we would all be happier if he just came out and said "as an organization we believe that is too much money and commitment for a quarterback coming off of neck surgeries." Many may have disagreed but at least we would be getting an honest answer that makes sense.

Anyways, so instead of twittling our thumbs and hoping Manning would consider us and proceeding to dumping a WR like Miami did or a tackle like Arizona did to make room for Manning, we moved on and made some good moves in FA instead of purely hoping that Manning would choose us.

I bet GeorgeBlowfish fliped Manning off
& he never forgot it

So in other words, Manning admitted that he was looking for under-the-table money.

Succop: "Yeah, Scott. I just sold my Chevy Aveo"

Pioli" "Really? Sweet. What did you get for it"?

Succop: "I pretty much got market value for it"

Pioli: "Wow...that guy was generous"

that.

The problem is teh title is misleading in the first place. Pioli never says he doesn't know why, in fact he specifically states he doesn't feel that it is his place to disclose content of private conversations with Manning.

Does that sound like "he doesn't know"?

Sounds like he knows, he just don't want to say it because it's probably $ or he wasn't comfortable with the organizational fit.

As I stated before, ask any of the GM's that were spurned and what would you expect them to say?

You ever get turned down by a hot chick? If you friends asked you why what would you tell them?

Nope.:harumph:

Yeah. I'd have a hell of a lot more respect if he came out with a statement like this -

We wouldn't be doing our due diligence if we didn't ask why a free agent the caliber of Peyton Manning was unwilling to discuss a potential future with the Kansas City Chiefs organization. While would have liked to have had further conversations with Manning and his people, we respect his wishes to go another direction.

We aren't at liberty to discuss the reasons, however, we have taken his thoughts into account as we consider free agents now and into the future.

The other Manning thread claims that Manning had a money/year amounts in mind. If the prequalified money to get looks at Manning really was 5 years 90 million then it seems reasonable to me that Pioli didn't like that idea (wish he would just say it) and is the reason why we didn't get consideration. Especially when we look at the other FAs we have gotten this season, most noteably Winston for a reasonably good price.

Holy ****, I'm still in shock.

This guy is 10x more arrogant than Carl ever was. Carl wasn't arrogant until he had actually built the Mecca of the Midwest. I don't even remember him being a huge dick until....maybe until John Tait.

Pioli walks around like he actually earned that exec. of the decade title.

Bottom line for me....

Pioli told the public that there would be legit competition for Cassel.

Quinn was told by management that Cassel would be the starting QB.

Despite which you believe, Pioli is telling us one thing, and the team is hearing the opposite.

I just can't for the life of me figure out why , as the leader of an organization, you wouldn't want to know WHY a player wasn't interested in joining the squad...

Anyone help me think of a reason?

Peyton is Kenny Powers?

Seriously read it in a Kenny Powers voice ROFL

he doesn't give a hoot. He thinks he's smarter than everyone else.

Its one of three things. Peyton and or condon know piolis history of lowballing. Or peyton believes the rumors from arrowhead anxiety. Or the chiefs are lying about serious which should bother all of us because there's no excuse for not at least playing the game.

All those things are scary. Unlike other teams, we have more cap space, we have Avery competitive team. We play in the afc. We play on a weak division. Most teams didn't fit like a glove the way kc did. So no its very tough to lump us on with 28 other teams, half of which already have a an and moat of which either weren't good enough or have zero money to spend.

How many other teams GMs have come out and explained why Manning spurned them?