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Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:36 PM

Marvin McNutt, WR
 
Okay so here is a solid built Wide Out that is looking at the 3rd or 4th round. Reminds me a lot like Bowe. Great hands and a "go get it" type. I wouldn't mind getting him in the 3rd or 4th assuming he is still there.
He is 6'3 216 pounds
NFL SCOUT: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2012&genpos=WR

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-...cnutt-iowa.jpg

http://thegazette.com/wp-content/upl...1/11/nutt2.jpg

Yes... He caught it.






Sorry if repost.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-20-2012 01:37 PM

:homer:

El Jefe 03-20-2012 01:38 PM

I already has posted my thoughts on Marvin, but I would definitely pick him up in the right round. I have watched him a lot, and he is as clutch as clutch comes IMO. Every time the Buckeyes played them McNutt ticked me off numerous times throughout the game. He is a heckuva ball player IMO.

Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:39 PM

Indeed, homer.

suds79 03-20-2012 01:39 PM

Why is a 6'3 216 WR going in say round 3 then? I haven't seen him play.

He slow?

Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476077)
Why is a 6'3 216 WR going in say round 3 then? I haven't seen him play.

He slow?

Mostly over looked... Some have him in the 2nd but it hasn't came clear yet. I say we pick him up if we fill our NT and OL position in the first 2 rounds.

Hoover 03-20-2012 01:41 PM

He's a stud.

He's also a converted QB, which means he's pretty smart, or could be a replacement for Cassel!

Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476077)
Why is a 6'3 216 WR going in say round 3 then? I haven't seen him play.

He slow?

He has good speed... Not great but good... Again a lot like Bowe.

Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476087)
He's a stud.

He's also a converted QB, which means he's pretty smart, or could be a replacement for Cassel!

One of his first passes (if not his first) in his QB career was a INT... So... He already has a head start on Cassel!

rico 03-20-2012 01:49 PM

Mcnutt broke the record for most receiving TD's this year. Clutch as hell. Awesome in the red zone.

Hoover 03-20-2012 01:53 PM

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Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricoswaff (Post 8476110)
Mcnutt broke the record for most receiving TD's this year. Clutch as hell. Awesome in the red zone.

Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, McNutt.... Solid.

BossChief 03-20-2012 01:55 PM

He and Prater are the only Hawks I'd draft this year.

I'd bet that both come off the board in the second round.

El Jefe 03-20-2012 01:58 PM

I like McNutt as I already stated, but I would be willing to grab Devier Posey out of OSU over McNutt. Posey was suspended almost the entire year for the Tat scandal, but that kid is a baller. He would be a steal, his draft stock isn't too high because of his suspension, but the kid is a player.

Simplicity 03-20-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC (Post 8476139)
I like McNutt as I already stated, but I would be willing to grab Devier Posey out of OSU over McNutt. Posey was suspended almost the entire year for the Tat scandal, but that kid is a baller. He would be a steal, his draft stock isn't too high because of his suspension, but the kid is a player.

I'd take either one.

Hoover 03-20-2012 02:03 PM

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El Jefe 03-20-2012 02:05 PM

I will never forget when Stanzi was hurt a few years back and Vanderburg or something like that came in as a Freshman and almost beat the Buckeyes, dude was throwing darts all game. McNutt has always stayed in my mind because he annoyed me so much that game.

Simplicity 03-20-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC (Post 8476166)
I will never forget when Stanzi was hurt a few years back and Vanderburg or something like that came in as a Freshman and almost beat the Buckeyes, dude was throwing darts all game. McNutt has always stayed in my mind because he annoyed me so much that game.

James Vandenberg.... But yeah he went 7 for 7 for his first 7 passes. I would know... Hawkeye homer :)

Hoover 03-20-2012 02:09 PM

Stanzi to McNutt!

FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 02:13 PM

Stop drafting crappy players from Iowa.

Tommy Streeter is a far better pro prospect and will probably be available in the 3rd round.

tymania 03-20-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8476127)
Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, McNutt.... Solid.

dont forget Moeaki... Then we gotta get Stanzi throwing them balls, it will be an Iowa reunion!! My dream come true.

Hoover 03-20-2012 02:28 PM

He runs a 4.54

If we could get him in the 3rd, we would be stocked.

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:44 PM

Actually, he might get taken as high as the second round.

He has incredibly reliable hands. Runs great routes. Is nearly identical to Bowe in size/weight/speed, and also has a very similar run after the catch ability to Bowe, not to mention his hops and ability to high-point the ball. Killed the combine.

suds79 03-20-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8476323)
Actually, he might get taken as high as the second round.

He has incredibly reliable hands. Runs great routes. Is nearly identical to Bowe in size/weight/speed, and also has a very similar run after the catch ability to Bowe, not to mention his hops and ability to high-point the ball. Killed the combine.

Didn't Bowe run a 4.4? Might not sound like much but it is when it comes to WR.

4.4 = Good speed
4.5 = Average speed

... Not that speed is everything.

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476077)
Why is a 6'3 216 WR going in say round 3 then? I haven't seen him play.

He slow?

He plays for Iowa. It's just not sexy, no respect.

Bump 03-20-2012 02:46 PM

His last name alone makes me want to draft him.

SOLD

vailpass 03-20-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8476202)
Stop drafting crappy players from Iowa.

Tommy Streeter is a far better pro prospect and will probably be available in the 3rd round.

Stop drafting players from Iowa to your crappy team.

Hoover 03-20-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8476333)
He plays for Iowa. It's just not sexy, no respect.

That's bogus

he will be on the rise as the draft approaches.

Iowa has produced a lot of good pros, and the program is well respected by NFL teams.

I bet he's a 2nd rounder, a steal in the 3rd IMO

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476087)
He's a stud.

He's also a converted QB, which means he's pretty smart, or could be a replacement for Cassel!

Well, at least it means that he and the QB would likely see the same thing out of the defense and will most likely be on the same page more often than not.

Also adds the possibility of trick plays when desperate.

ToxSocks 03-20-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476331)
Didn't Bowe run a 4.4? Might not sound like much but it is when it comes to WR.

4.4 = Good speed
4.5 = Average speed

... Not that speed is everything.

IIRC, Bowe was a 4.5 guy.

But then again, i smoke a lot of weed....

ToxSocks 03-20-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8476344)
IIRC, Bowe was a 4.5 guy.

But then again, i smoke a lot of weed....

4.51 according to ESPN

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476125)
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That's not even his impressive one handed catch...

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suds79 03-20-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8476344)
IIRC, Bowe was a 4.5 guy.

But then again, i smoke a lot of weed....

Okay looked into it. Looks like he ran a 4.51 at the combine.

I was remembering his pro day where he turned in a 4.40 & a 4.49

Based on what we've seen, I think we can all agree the 4.51 is probably more accurate.

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8476202)
Stop drafting crappy players from Iowa.

Tommy Streeter is a far better pro prospect and will probably be available in the 3rd round.

Riiiiiiiiiiight. Dude, hurricanes prospects suck. For the simple fact that you don't know what you're getting. They recruit so well, and do so little to coach players up you don't know if you're getting a smart, well coached, coachable player. Or a physically talented player, who hasn't been coached, doesn't know how to be coached, and might flop enormously in the pro's b/c they won't be able to get by on shear talent anymore.

Tommy Streeter is not a better prospect than McNutt. I REALLY hope you're not serious, and if you are, what the HELL are you basing this off of? His YEARS of production?

aturnis 03-20-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476331)
Didn't Bowe run a 4.4? Might not sound like much but it is when it comes to WR.

4.4 = Good speed
4.5 = Average speed

... Not that speed is everything.

Bowe ran a 4.51.

vailpass 03-20-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8476389)
Bowe crawled a 4.51.

fyp

Chiefshrink 03-20-2012 02:59 PM

I want Stephen Hill from GT !!:clap:

aturnis 03-20-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476342)
That's bogus

he will be on the rise as the draft approaches.

Iowa has produced a lot of good pros, and the program is well respected by NFL teams.

I bet he's a 2nd rounder, a steal in the 3rd IMO

I agree with you. I'm a fellow Iowa homer.

Fact remains that even national college football media generally overlooks Iowa. We're flyover country and just not sexy.

No spread offense, no 1st round WR's, QB's, RB's. We develop the core of every team. The unsexy players. OL, DL, LB, TE, DB

Not always first round picks, but almost always solid contributing mid-rounders. Look at the players Iowa has in the NFL. Most contribute quite a bit to their team, most were mid-late draft picks.

I believe Iowa has the most players in NFL training camps...

aturnis 03-20-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 8476397)
I want Stephen Hill from GT !!:clap:

You'll get him too if you start cheering for the Raiders.

aturnis 03-20-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC (Post 8476166)
I will never forget when Stanzi was hurt a few years back and Vanderburg or something like that came in as a Freshman and almost beat the Buckeyes, dude was throwing darts all game. McNutt has always stayed in my mind because he annoyed me so much that game.

Yeah, that was Vandenberg. I hate that guy. He SUCKS!

aturnis 03-20-2012 03:08 PM

Romeo Crennel, Scott Pioli, Jack Bicknell, and Nick Sirianni were all at Iowa's pro day yesterday.

My guess is with Sirianni being there they were looking at McNutt, and Bicknell at Gettis as a late round flier.

I'd take McNutt in the 3rd every time.

A lot of guys have been against the suggestion in the past, which I understand their argument, "we have decent receivers". The Packers though, haven't ever let that stop them from drafting another one. They are stocked from A-Z, and with the passing game going the way it is, it's be smart for us to also.

Saul Good 03-20-2012 03:34 PM

Our receiving corps would consist of a nut, balls, breasts, and a bowener. It all makes sense. After all, we've got an asshole at QB.

BigChiefFan 03-20-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8476425)
Romeo Crennel, Scott Pioli, Jack Bicknell, and Nick Sirianni were all at Iowa's pro day yesterday.

My guess is with Sirianni being there they were looking at McNutt, and Bicknell at Gettis as a late round flier.

I'd take McNutt in the 3rd every time.

A lot of guys have been against the suggestion in the past, which I understand their argument, "we have decent receivers". The Packers though, haven't ever let that stop them from drafting another one. They are stocked from A-Z, and with the passing game going the way it is, it's be smart for us to also.

I agree with the sentiment of having at least 4 quality receivers. I thought it was a decent idea to take a flyer on Manningham in FA or even suggested drafting the WR from South Carolina, Alshon Jeffery in the second round, in a mock from a while back.

McNutt's an intriquing prospect, but I'm not sure about a high third rounder, though.

Titty Meat 03-20-2012 03:46 PM

He's so good Alfonzo Dennard shut him down.

bevischief 03-20-2012 03:47 PM

To the ship.

RustShack 03-20-2012 03:52 PM

I'd be all for snatching up McNutt in the middle of the draft. We need more reliable hands on this team.

vailpass 03-20-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8476550)
I'd be all for snatching up McNutt in the middle of the draft. We need more reliable hands on this team.

Any more good high school hoops players coming out of Ames this year?

saphojunkie 03-20-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8476087)
He's a stud.

He's also a converted QB, which means he's pretty smart, or could be a replacement for Cassel!

So, we could draft Tannehill, a converted WR to QB in the first, and McNuttt, the opposite, in the 2nd?

Or should we draft Reiff in the first and make it an Iowa offense?

RustShack 03-20-2012 04:07 PM

Don't want Reiff, but wouldn't be opposed to Gettis later(not sure if/when hes projected though).

Micjones 03-20-2012 05:04 PM

He'd be a good insurance policy for Bowe in case all Hell breaks loose.
Take him in the Middle Rounds.

rico 03-20-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8476479)
Our receiving corps would consist of a nut, balls, breasts, and a bowener. It all makes sense. After all, we've got an asshole at QB.

This is the best post I have ever seen.

Mr. Laz 03-20-2012 05:17 PM

this is the kind of guy that could take our 4th wr spot ... not crotchery

FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8476385)
Riiiiiiiiiiight. Dude, hurricanes prospects suck. For the simple fact that you don't know what you're getting. They recruit so well, and do so little to coach players up you don't know if you're getting a smart, well coached, coachable player. Or a physically talented player, who hasn't been coached, doesn't know how to be coached, and might flop enormously in the pro's b/c they won't be able to get by on shear talent anymore.

Tommy Streeter is not a better prospect than McNutt. I REALLY hope you're not serious, and if you are, what the HELL are you basing this off of? His YEARS of production?

Miami Hurricanes prospects suck? JFC you are a dumbshit.

No school has been more consistent in producing NFL talent the past decade than the University of Miami.

Streeter at 6-5, 219 ran a 4.4... sick physical talent. He is raw and will require some development, but the Chiefs have that luxury with Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin.

You can count the # of players from Iowa who have had a significant impact in the NFL on one hand.

Kyle DeLexus 03-20-2012 05:31 PM

Do we really want a receiver that is "Just like Bowe"? Don't we pretty much have that in Baldwin? I'd rather target a decent speed guy.

FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 8476980)
Do we really want a receiver that is "Just like Bowe"? Don't we pretty much have that in Baldwin? I'd rather target a decent speed guy.

Streeter has speed... ran a 4.4 at the Combine.

Size and speed... a hard combination to come by.

aturnis 03-20-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8476609)
Don't want Reiff, but wouldn't be opposed to Gettis later(not sure if/when hes projected though).

This.

Kyle DeLexus 03-20-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8476990)
Streeter has speed... ran a 4.4 at the Combine.

Size and speed... a hard combination to come by.

That's more like it. I don't want to turn into the Raiders here, but our WR's have good size but don't stretch the field.

aturnis 03-20-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8476974)
Miami Hurricanes prospects suck? JFC you are a dumbshit.

No school has been more consistent in producing NFL talent the past decade than the University of Miami.

Streeter at 6-5, 219 ran a 4.4... sick physical talent. He is raw and will require some development, but the Chiefs have that luxury with Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin.

You can count the # of players from Iowa who have had a significant impact in the NFL on one hand.

...and you can't count the amount of Hurricanes who have flat out busted on all of your appendages.

Yes, they get lots of players into the NFL, but many of them were never ready. Gotta blame that on the program.

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2012 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8476331)
Didn't Bowe run a 4.4? Might not sound like much but it is when it comes to WR.

4.4 = Good speed
4.5 = Average speed

... Not that speed is everything.

Bowe ran a 4.5 in the combine, and a 4.4 in his pro day

aturnis 03-20-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 8476980)
Do we really want a receiver that is "Just like Bowe"? Don't we pretty much have that in Baldwin? I'd rather target a decent speed guy.

All I'm saying is, who's Green Bay's speed guy? Not saying they're all slow, but they aren't Desean Jackson either. Most of their guys are mid 4.4 to mid 4.5 I'd imagine.

The Saints only receiver who could "stretch the field" would be Robert Meachem. Guess who they let walk. Probably b/c he never really contributed a ton to the offense. Not anything they couldn't get out of another guy.

When you look at team with first of all, a good QB(something we need) and a great passing game, most of the receivers are big bodied guys, with great hand and unremarkable speed.

40 time is the least important of a receivers attributes. If you have an entire field full of huge guys, who can run good routes, and catch the ball, try and stop 'em.

htismaqe 03-20-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8477051)
All I'm saying is, who's Green Bay's speed guy? Not saying they're all slow, but they aren't Desean Jackson either. Most of their guys are mid 4.4 to mid 4.5 I'd imagine.

The Saints only receiver who could "stretch the field" would be Robert Meachem. Guess who they let walk. Probably b/c he never really contributed a ton to the offense. Not anything they couldn't get out of another guy.

When you look at team with first of all, a good QB(something we need) and a great passing game, most of the receivers are big bodied guys, with great hand and unremarkable speed.

40 time is the least important of a receivers attributes. If you have an entire field full of huge guys, who can run good routes, and catch the ball, try and stop 'em.

This.

saphojunkie 03-20-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8477051)
All I'm saying is, who's Green Bay's speed guy? Not saying they're all slow, but they aren't Desean Jackson either. Most of their guys are mid 4.4 to mid 4.5 I'd imagine.

The Saints only receiver who could "stretch the field" would be Robert Meachem. Guess who they let walk. Probably b/c he never really contributed a ton to the offense. Not anything they couldn't get out of another guy.

When you look at team with first of all, a good QB(something we need) and a great passing game, most of the receivers are big bodied guys, with great hand and unremarkable speed.

40 time is the least important of a receivers attributes. If you have an entire field full of huge guys, who can run good routes, and catch the ball, try and stop 'em.

Most of the time "stretching the field" for us means a receiver running a thirty yard sprint and watching the ball sail somewhere away from him.

Blowing past defensive backs comes from good play design much moreso than burning speed. The D-backs are fast too, and usually have a 15-30 foot headstart.

aturnis 03-20-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8476990)
Streeter has speed... ran a 4.4 at the Combine.

Size and speed... a hard combination to come by.

USAIN BOLT HAS SPEED. SIZE AND SPEED!

What's your point if he can't play football? Is Streeter better than Kendall Wright b/c he only ran a 4.61?

htismaqe 03-20-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8477084)
Most of the time "stretching the field" for us means a receiver running a thirty yard sprint and watching the ball sail somewhere away from him.

Blowing past defensive backs comes from good play design much moreso than burning speed. The D-backs are fast too, and usually have a 15-30 foot headstart.

Having a good "twitch" is more important than 40 time. It's what Vermeil always said he wanted in his WRs.

Getting separation in the NFL is about SUBTLE movement - a head fake, a hip inside and step outside.

Make your man bite and then get to where the ball is supposed to be. Straight-line speed is dramatically overrated. Just ask Larry Fitzgerald.

aturnis 03-20-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 8477002)
That's more like it. I don't want to turn into the Raiders here, but our WR's have good size but don't stretch the field.

Maybe his lack of production would tickle you fancy even more!

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...tommy-streeter

The Dawg 03-20-2012 06:02 PM

I want him just because his name is McNutt. ROFL

aturnis 03-20-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8477108)
Having a good "twitch" is more important than 40 time. It's what Vermeil always said he wanted in his WRs.

Getting separation in the NFL is about SUBTLE movement - a head fake, a hip inside and step outside.

Make your man bite and then get to where the ball is supposed to be. Straight-line speed is dramatically overrated. Just ask Larry Fitzgerald.

This.

htismaqe 03-20-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 8476980)
Do we really want a receiver that is "Just like Bowe"? Don't we pretty much have that in Baldwin? I'd rather target a decent speed guy.

This time next year, I'm afraid we're going to be wishing we had another WR "just like Bowe".

FloridaMan88 03-20-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8477020)
...and you can't count the amount of Hurricanes who have flat out busted on all of your appendages.

Yes, they get lots of players into the NFL, but many of them were never ready. Gotta blame that on the program.

ROFLROFL

Yeah Jimmy Graham clearly wasn't ready. Clinton Portis? Yeah not ready as he raped the Chiefs defense year after year. Willis McGahee? A few Pro Bowls a few 1,000 yard seasons but not ready. Frank Gore? Leading the 49ers to the NFC Championship game but not ready. Reggie Wayne? Yeah not ready. Santana Moss? Not Ready. Andre Johnson? Not ready. Ray Lewis? Not Ready. Ed Reed? Not Ready. Jeremy Shockey? Not Ready. Kellen Winslow? Not Ready. Eric Winston? Not Ready. Vince Wilfork? Not Ready. Jonathan Vilma? Not Ready. Devin Hester? Not Ready. Antrel Rolle? Not Ready. Bryant McKinnie? Not Ready. DJ Williams? Not Ready. Sam Shields? Not Ready.

Let's see your list of Iowa Hawkeyes in the NFL so I can own you like a little bitch.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL


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