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Dante84 02-04-2022 03:51 PM

Chiefs sign former Bucs WR Justin Watson
 
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BWillie 02-04-2022 03:51 PM

Why

Hammock Parties 02-04-2022 03:52 PM

big white boy target for mahomes

Wisconsin_Chief 02-04-2022 03:55 PM

280 special teams snaps in 2019.

Guessing that's why he's here.

Dante84 02-04-2022 03:55 PM

Plays special teams as well.

DRM08 02-04-2022 03:55 PM

Played in the Ivy League.

BWillie 02-04-2022 03:58 PM

The next Marcus Kemp? That better all this is.

smithandrew051 02-04-2022 03:58 PM

WR2 = Fixed

Easy 6 02-04-2022 03:59 PM

BOERIGTER 2.0!!1

Jewish Rabbi 02-04-2022 04:10 PM

LET’S ****ING GOOOOO!!!!

BWillie 02-04-2022 04:11 PM

whyppl don't make good wide receivers, usually.

Red Dawg 02-04-2022 04:18 PM

Why not. Past Hill we got crap. Compare ours to the two teams still playing and we are a joke.

Flying High D 02-04-2022 04:45 PM

Print em.

Flying High D 02-04-2022 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16131000)
Why not. Past Hill we got crap. Compare ours to the two teams still playing and we are a joke.

Would DROB or Pringle make another NFL roster? Biscuit Veal needs to churn this position group.

oldman 02-04-2022 05:05 PM

It's not "To the ship" time just yet. We had 16 receivers in camp last year and still ended up with the same 6 (not counting Gordon) guys. Hill is the only star. Until Drob and Kemp go away forever, I'm not going to get too excited about a futures signing.

Red Dawg 02-04-2022 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 16131047)
Would DROB or Pringle make another NFL roster? Biscuit Veal needs to churn this position group.

They would be PS at best.

chinaski 02-04-2022 05:44 PM

Lunchpail guy?

kccrow 02-04-2022 06:57 PM

He did run a 4.44 and had a 40 in vert at 6'2" 215 at his pro day... so he's got some hops and some speed for being a white boy.

Showed some good hands when he got chances. Who knows, maybe he ends up a better bargain bin find than Kemp.

Direckshun 02-04-2022 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 16131186)
Lunchpail guy?

Plays the game the right way

BigRedChief 02-04-2022 08:02 PM

Print em

Flying High D 02-04-2022 08:24 PM

Does the dirty, nasty, stinky work.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-04-2022 08:30 PM

Deberg quality

Dante84 02-04-2022 09:49 PM

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Titty Meat 02-04-2022 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 16131186)
Lunchpail guy?

Toub Toy

D.A.P. 02-05-2022 08:02 AM

High motor

InChiefsHeaven 02-05-2022 08:10 AM

Meh. Big white dude. Good size, maybe we can do something with him.

Was he anything in the SB against the Chiefs?

King_Chief_Fan 02-05-2022 09:03 AM

they must plan on losing a couple of the unrestricted free agent TE

Buehler445 02-05-2022 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16131345)
He did run a 4.44 and had a 40 in vert at 6'2" 215 at his pro day... so he's got some hops and some speed for being a white boy.

Showed some good hands when he got chances. Who knows, maybe he ends up a better bargain bin find than Kemp.

Nice.

SuperBowl4 02-05-2022 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16131000)
Why not. Past Hill we got crap. Compare ours to the two teams still playing and we are a joke.

Pringle was very good last season. robinson needs to go

The Franchise 03-01-2022 10:59 AM

I’m wondering if this guy has a chance to stick. When he was drafted….it was one year after Godwin was drafted. He’s been buried on that depth chart for years and Veach loves his SPARQ guys.

Sure-Oz 03-01-2022 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 16132028)
Pringle was very good last season. robinson needs to go

He's a #4 WR. They need a #2 and #3 badly

htismaqe 03-01-2022 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 16132028)
Pringle was very good last season. robinson needs to go

Pringle is a #4 WR with no upside. Last year is as good as he's going to get. We need MUCH better than that.

ChiTown 03-01-2022 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 16132028)
Pringle was very good last season. robinson needs to go

The fact that Pringle had to slot in as a #2/3 last year suggests we need to do better. Byron should only be playing in 4 WR sets, or when you need a bigger WR in tight yardage situations. He's a fine #4, but super jag-iliscious.

kcbubb 03-01-2022 11:51 AM

Any chance hardman improves this year? Contract year for him?

tredadda 03-01-2022 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16169677)
Pringle is a #4 WR with no upside. Last year is as good as he's going to get. We need MUCH better than that.

Who is our number #3 WR? Robinson? I think Pringle did more this year than him.

htismaqe 03-01-2022 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16169736)
Who is our number #3 WR? Robinson? I think Pringle did more this year than him.

We don't really have a #3. We definitely don't have a #2. We've got Hill and a bunch of guys.

ChiTown 03-01-2022 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16169736)
Who is our number #3 WR? Robinson? I think Pringle did more this year than him.

Mecole should be that guy that slides in as a #3, but he just disappears for long stretches. That's a dude that should be spending all off-season learning how to run better routes. He's great if he can get open and catch the ball, because he's definitely a guy that can get a lot of yac. But, he really struggles with his routes, and it's pretty obvious Pat has some trust issues with him.

htismaqe 03-01-2022 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16169767)
Mecole should be that guy that slides in as a #3, but he just disappears for long stretches. That's a dude that should be spending all off-season learning how to run better routes. He's great if he can get open and catch the ball, because he's definitely a guy that can get a lot of yac. But, he really struggles with his routes, and it's pretty obvious Pat has some trust issues with him.

I'm not sure I'd even consider him a WR at this point. He's a gadget player.

Wilson8 03-01-2022 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16169726)
Any chance hardman improves this year? Contract year for him?

2019 - 16 games, 5 starts, 26 catches, 538 yards, 6 TDs, 63.4% catch rate.

2020 - 16 games, 8 starts, 41 catches, 560 yards, 4 TDs, 66.1% catch rate.

2021 - 17 games, 8 starts, 59 catches, 693 yards, 2 TDs, 71.1% catch rate.

The only stat that has gone down each year has been TDs.

Yes, I'd say that he improves this year again.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...H/HardMe00.htm

ChiTown 03-01-2022 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16169769)
I'm not sure I'd even consider him a WR at this point. He's a gadget player.

Therein lies the problem with why our WR Room looks janky....and needs an infusion of talent

Wilson8 03-01-2022 12:21 PM

People have hoped for much better from Mecole Hardman, but he has stayed healthy and contributed each year.

If he continues to improve like he has done each season, that puts him near 800 yards, 80 catches, and over a 70-75% catch rate. There are a lot of teams that would LOVE to have him on their team.

htismaqe 03-01-2022 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16169790)
People have hoped for much better from Mecole Hardman, but he has stayed healthy and contributed each year.

If he continues to improve like he has done each season, that puts him near 800 yards, 80 catches, and over a 70-75% catch rate. There are a lot of teams that would LOVE to have him on their team.

I actually like Mecole Hardman and think he can still contribute quite a bit to this team. But even with that production, he's not playing a true WR role.

This team needs a solid #2 opposite Hill.

TimBone 03-01-2022 07:08 PM

If the Chiefs get a proper #2 (which I hope they do), Hardman's numbers are gonna go down even of he continues to improve as a player.

smithandrew051 03-01-2022 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16169974)
I actually like Mecole Hardman and think he can still contribute quite a bit to this team. But even with that production, he's not playing a true WR role.

This team needs a solid #2 opposite Hill.

I don’t even think of him as a WR. I just give him that Athlete tag that they put on a lot of high school players.

Dante84 05-27-2022 08:44 AM

Mahomes was hyping this kid a little in the presser yesterday. Said he had to call Veach when they were working out in Texas to ask how fast he was, because he was late on some of his throws.

He is a Vet with ST experience; would not be shocked if he sticks at the last WR spot if Gordon or Powell have mediocre camps.

Jewish Rabbi 05-27-2022 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16310851)
Mahomes was hyping this kid a little in the presser yesterday. Said he had to call Veach when they were working out in Texas to ask how fast he was, because he was late on some of his throws.

He is a Vet with ST experience; would not be shocked if he sticks at the last WR spot if Gordon or Powell have mediocre camps.

FINGER IN THE BOOTY LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!

Kiimo 05-27-2022 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16310851)
Mahomes was hyping this kid a little in the presser yesterday. Said he had to call Veach when they were working out in Texas to ask how fast he was, because he was late on some of his throws.


whoa my bad wrong thread

FloridaMan88 11-25-2024 07:32 PM

Two key blocks on the Mahomes big run play that sealed the win.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tape never lies <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/GNL2N69ih9">pic.twitter.com/GNL2N69ih9</a></p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1861031923830988821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

scho63 11-25-2024 08:01 PM

Watson has been an 8.5 out of 10 for us.

TwistedChief 11-25-2024 08:05 PM

dlphg or whatever was just saying post-game how much Watson sucked but that Wanya Morris was playing well enough to be the LT of the future for Mahomes.

What is going on with some people here?

Hammock Parties 11-25-2024 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17825622)
dlphg or whatever was just saying post-game how much Watson sucked but that Wanya Morris was playing well enough to be the LT of the future for Mahomes.

What is going on with this some people here?

Getting called out for being a disgusting, cowardly traitor every week usually brings out the loser in some people.

I call it CDS.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-25-2024 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17825622)
dlphg or whatever was just saying post-game how much Watson sucked but that Wanya Morris was playing well enough to be the LT of the future for Mahomes.

What is going on with this some people here?

The year of the three-peat. It's like a tumor that feeds on your sanity.

Chiefnj2 11-25-2024 08:38 PM

Watson does all the little things that get overlooked. He’s great running rubs to free up other guys, a solid blocker, and when Pat looks his way, he has good hands.

Jewish Rabbi 11-25-2024 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17825622)
dlphg or whatever was just saying post-game how much Watson sucked but that Wanya Morris was playing well enough to be the LT of the future for Mahomes.

What is going on with some people here?

You're surprised that dlphag had a moronic take? Come on, you've been here long enough to know better.

threebag 11-25-2024 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17825644)
Getting called out for being a disgusting, cowardly traitor every week usually brings out the loser in some people.

I call it CDS.

Clay Downs Semen?

Clay Devours Semen?

Clay Drinks Seed?

dlphg9 11-25-2024 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17825622)
dlphg or whatever was just saying post-game how much Watson sucked but that Wanya Morris was playing well enough to be the LT of the future for Mahomes.

What is going on with some people here?

He does suck. I think that's pretty obvious when the only thing you can pick out is a block by a guy getting #1 WR snaps. The guy is Skyy Moore if Skyy would catch his only target of the game.

kccrow 11-25-2024 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17825721)
Watson does all the little things that get overlooked. He’s great running rubs to free up other guys, a solid blocker, and when Pat looks his way, he has good hands.

Exactly. Watson is the type of player you want as a 5th WR. He does the dirty work on special teams and in run blocking and he catches the ball when he gets his targets.

Megatron96 11-26-2024 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17826044)
Exactly. Watson is the type of player you want as a 5th WR. He does the dirty work on special teams and in run blocking and he catches the ball when he gets his targets.



Eh, but your WR5 shouldn't be getting anywhere near 65% of the snaps.

Also, I just watched the A-22, and he dropped one that hit him right in the titties, so he ain't that reliable a pass-catcher.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2024 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826062)
Eh, but your WR5 shouldn't be getting anywhere near 65% of the snaps.

Also, I just watched the A-22, and he dropped one that hit him right in the titties, so he ain't that reliable a pass-catcher.

Typical traitor talk.

Watson has been targeted 22 times this year and has 18 catches.

He had some dropsies last year but his catch percentage of 81.8 this season is a career high.

He is a positive asset for the Kansas City Chiefs. We celebrate all positive assets during this dynasty run, and this incredible season.

Megatron96 11-26-2024 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17826065)
Typical traitor talk.

Watson has been targeted 22 times this year and has 18 catches.

He had some dropsies last year but his catch percentage of 81.8 this season is a career high.

He is a positive asset for the Kansas City Chiefs. We celebrate all positive assets during this dynasty run, and this incredible season.




"Last year"? His career catch% is about 50%, and you know it. We all know it. And last year and the year before Andy tried targeting him more than 3 times a game a few times, and what happened? He caught right about 50% of the balls thrown in his direction. And dropped a bunch that hit him right in the hands. But just in case you've never looked at his career stats, here you go:
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...W/WatsJu01.htm

In other words, he's okay if he's targeted about 2 times a game, and that's it. Which really begs the question, why is he eating up 63% of all offensive snaps? It just doesn't make much, if any, sense.

TwistedChief 11-26-2024 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17826039)
He does suck. I think that's pretty obvious when the only thing you can pick out is a block by a guy getting #1 WR snaps. The guy is Skyy Moore if Skyy would catch his only target of the game.

This is such an idiotic take. The guy has made countless tough, big catches over the course of his career.

But please tell us again how well Morris is playing!

ThaVirus 11-26-2024 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17826039)
He does suck. I think that's pretty obvious when the only thing you can pick out is a block by a guy getting #1 WR snaps. The guy is Skyy Moore if Skyy would catch his only target of the game.

Don’t do that. Don’t double down on this lunacy.

Watson isn’t great but he is a far cry from Skyy ****ing Moore.

Balto 11-26-2024 06:51 AM

I’ve always thought of him as the offensive dirty Dan

dlphg9 11-26-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826066)
"Last year"? His career catch% is about 50%, and you know it. We all know it. And last year and the year before Andy tried targeting him more than 3 times a game a few times, and what happened? He caught right about 50% of the balls thrown in his direction. And dropped a bunch that hit him right in the hands. But just in case you've never looked at his career stats, here you go:
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...W/WatsJu01.htm

In other words, he's okay if he's targeted about 2 times a game, and that's it. Which really begs the question, why is he eating up 63% of all offensive snaps? It just doesn't make much, if any, sense.

Oh no watch out! He made a block so he deserves to get more snaps than all the other WR.

I keep saying he's an asset if he's getting 20-30% of the snaps on offense. He sucks when he's getting WR #1 snaps.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17826098)
I’ve always thought of him as the offensive dirty Dan

Lunch pail player.

trndobrd 11-26-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826062)
Eh, but your WR5 shouldn't be getting anywhere near 65% of the snaps.

Also, I just watched the A-22, and he dropped one that hit him right in the titties, so he ain't that reliable a pass-catcher.

What are the other options out of the five active WRs? Worthy is already getting 64 percent of the snaps. Juju is probably on a play count due to his knee, Rice is out, Brown is out, Sky Moore is out…not that it matters.

Options are more Dhop (32 years old) in the regular season, Mecole Hardman, or Ross.

Megatron96 11-26-2024 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 17826552)
What are the other options out of the five active WRs? Worthy is already getting 64 percent of the snaps. Juju is probably on a play count due to his knee, Rice is out, Brown is out, Sky Moore is out…not that it matters.

Options are more Dhop (32 years old) in the regular season, Mecole Hardman, or Ross.



Nuk played just 27 of a possible 68 offensive snaps. I doubt we were even n danger of overworking him.

Mecole, if I read it right, played less than 10% of offensive snaps.

BWillie 11-26-2024 01:33 PM

I know this sounds like fluff but he really does do the little things. Very high attention to detail. He's really good at the pick plays without picking up a penalty too. Just the small things Andy looks for. I know he's a white guy so I hesitate to say this but really is kind of a coach on the field.

Gary Cooper 11-26-2024 01:55 PM

Who was the last SB winner without a white guy playing WR?

You need these guys on the roster.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-26-2024 01:58 PM

Always bring a white friend (receiver) with you so he can negotiate with the police (refs).

PatMahomesIsGod 11-26-2024 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17826622)
Who was the last SB winner without a white guy playing WR?

You need these guys on the roster.

Us in 2020.

Gary Cooper 11-26-2024 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17826625)
Us in 2020.

Didn't we have Gehrig Dieter?

I assume you meant 2019. The Bucs won in 2020. Ironically, Watson was on their roster.

jerryaldini 11-26-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826066)
"Last year"? His career catch% is about 50%, and you know it. We all know it. And last year and the year before Andy tried targeting him more than 3 times a game a few times, and what happened? He caught right about 50% of the balls thrown in his direction. And dropped a bunch that hit him right in the hands. But just in case you've never looked at his career stats, here you go:
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...W/WatsJu01.htm

In other words, he's okay if he's targeted about 2 times a game, and that's it. Which really begs the question, why is he eating up 63% of all offensive snaps? It just doesn't make much, if any, sense.

He used to get targeted on a lot of deep balls where low catch rate is common. Chiefs don't do that anymore.

stevieray 11-26-2024 02:59 PM

Great player.

Makes clutch catches.

Why do you think Mahomes was able to scramble for 32 yds and essentially win the game?

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-26-2024 03:02 PM

Idk if it was in this thread or somewhere else, but he plays like his job depends on it. Hustle player no matter what, all effort. Gotta appreciate those kinds of players.

Megatron96 11-26-2024 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17826662)
He used to get targeted on a lot of deep balls where low catch rate is common. Chiefs don't do that anymore.



lol, he was targeted twice on Sunday, and dropped one from about 10 yds out that literally hit him in the tits. Look, I like him, for what he is. But what he is, and what he’ll always be is a ST player that Andy promoted to WR. Which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, except he’s taking WR1 snaps like he’s Justin Jefferson. That’s just dumb.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-26-2024 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826740)
lol, he was targeted twice on Sunday, and dropped one from about 10 yds out that literally hit him in the tits. Look, I like him, for what he is. But what he is, and what he’ll always be is a ST player that Andy promoted to WR. Which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, except he’s taking WR1 snaps like he’s Justin Jefferson. That’s just dumb.

I don't disagree with you that Watson is a WR4 at best, but I just wouldn't put too much stock in snap count. Especially in the regular season.

kccrow 11-26-2024 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826593)
Nuk played just 27 of a possible 68 offensive snaps. I doubt we were even n danger of overworking him.

Mecole, if I read it right, played less than 10% of offensive snaps.

If Nuk plays more than 60% of the snaps as a Chief and the Chiefs reach the SB, that 5th we traded turns into a 4th.

Nuk's snaps in the meat of our easiest stretch will undoubtedly be limited and saved for when the going gets tougher not just to save his aging legs for the playoffs but to avoid escalating that draft pick.

Andy has never trusted Hardman to play outside so he isn't going to get the bulk of anything opposite Worthy.

Ross hasn't really ever done shit to prove he's better than Watson, though the fan in me wants to see more of him to know.

Megatron96 11-26-2024 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17826880)
If Nuk plays more than 60% of the snaps as a Chief and the Chiefs reach the SB, that 5th we traded turns into a 4th.

Nuk's snaps in the meat of our easiest stretch will undoubtedly be limited and saved for when the going gets tougher not just to save his aging legs for the playoffs but to avoid escalating that draft pick.

Andy has never trusted Hardman to play outside so he isn't going to get the bulk of anything opposite Worthy.

Ross hasn't really ever done shit to prove he's better than Watson, though the fan in me wants to see more of him to know.


And what I’ve been saying is that it’s stupid to limit Nuk’s snaps because of a potential 4th rd draft pick. If he’s gassed, or nursing an injury, or hasn’t absorbed enough of the playbook, fine. But over a possible 4th rd pick? That’s idiotic.


And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.

kccrow 11-26-2024 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17826939)
And what I’ve been saying is that it’s stupid to limit Nuk’s snaps because of a potential 4th rd draft pick. If he’s gassed, or nursing an injury, or hasn’t absorbed enough of the playbook, fine. But over a possible 4th rd pick? That’s idiotic.


And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.

I don't disagree with you, it just seems this is the strategy they are employing


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