Seahawks Hire Ravens DC Macdonald as HC
 

Might be a rough patch for the Ravens - breaks my heart.

That’s a really brutal loss for Baltimore after Sunday…

The Chiefs would have been shut out if not for the distraction -flock, papers, tweezers

Double Nut Shot.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving fan base and QB.

ROFL

This in particular seems like a good/solid hire, but I don't get why so many teams went defensive mind with their HC this year.

It makes zero sense.

probably because the league has shifted so heavily to defense. i’d still prioritize offensive minds but it makes more sense in this league environment than it would have a few years ago

I’d like to offer these words to sad Ravens fans:


Lmfao eat shit

Double ****ed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One possibility for the Seahawks&#39; defensive coordinator vacancy now that Mike Macdonald is their head coach: Zachary Orr. <br><br>Orr worked with Macdonald in Baltimore, coaching Ravens inside linebackers the past two seasons. <a href="https://t.co/RCQbWsnhui">https://t.co/RCQbWsnhui</a></p>&mdash; Brady Henderson (@BradyHenderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradyHenderson/status/1752766909853139368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Teams are absolutely obsessed with hiring HCs that are like 35 now so they want whoever is super young and has any type of success.

ravens get weaker and one of the best dcs gets shooed away to die in the nfc.

double win

But that doesn't explain a guy like Slowik not getting a job while all of these defensive guys do.

Texans just gave him a raise.

Yea, but he didn't seem to be any team's top choice, or even plan b. It makes no sense.

BahahahahahahahahaROFL

Teams tend to hire whoever is hot. The Athletic Football Show podcast was discussing Mahomes today (excellent listen, by the way) and they pointed out that in 2018, when Mahomes came into the league, defenses were largely Cover 1/Seattle Legion of Boom type defenses. Mahomes came out slinging the ball and shredding those defenses. Teams always look for franchise QBs but they particularly want the next Patrick Mahomes (see Murray, Kyler, as an example. Didn't work but that's exactly what AZ wanted).

Defenses changed, in large part as a response to Mahomes and the QBs that followed him, like Tua, Burrow, and Allen. The offensive statistics are down this year as part of the ebb and flow of the game. And because the offensive statistics are down, defensive coordinators are the ones that are hot.

Give it a year or two. Offenses will respond to what defenses do and offensive production will go up. Offensive coordinators will get hot. They'll be the ones hired for HC vacancies.

Please let this happen.LMAO

did anyone even know of this guys existence before stroud? he’s been an OC for one season. that would be a monster jump.

I mean it's a fair question, Ben Johnson didn't get one because he apparently made outrageous money demands.

Because the rules favor offense and it's easier than ever to find quality offensive coaches and Bob Slowik Jr proves that. Mike Kafka proved it last year with Daniel Jones.

The Andy Reid and Mike Shannahan trees run this league offensively and they're so vast now that you can probably get your defensive coach and have your pick of a smart up and comer to be your OC.

Klint Kubiak, Eric Bieniemy, Luke Getsy, Jason Vrabel and I think even Ken Dorsey would be good.

Lots and lots of good offensive coaches from good schemes out there

Completely disagree.

If your OC is any good, he'll be gone in 2-3 years max, and then you're right back at square one.

In Seattle’s case, I think Pete Carroll had major input on the hiring decision and will continue to have input on the team. We know Pete is a defense guy all the way.

That and offensive output was down.

He’s a great hire. Especially for that franchise. Now they need to acquire Fields and make life hell for the 49ers. That division is going to be tough.

Seattle also likely views having a top 5 defense as their quickest way to consistent contention because they aren't in position for a franchise QB.

Was it just a money demand? If he demanded full control of personnel like Belichick, that might be part of the problem.

The Chiefs history is that our four best Head Coaches in the franchise were good because they know how to run a football team. Stram and Reid were innovative and creative with play design, and that helped them. But their best quality was that they had a plan for the big picture.

Schottenheimer and Vermeil were very good at getting buy in to work hard and play tough, but they were not genius football savants.

It is funny to see these teams hire an OC or DC whose unit had a good year as if that is some recipe.

The best head coaches are the ones who put some thought into how to best run training camp and practice and how to manage their coaches so that the players achieve to their potential.

Funny how Chiefs kick all this ass, and Nagy winning coach of the year, makes it so nobody wants to hire off Andy Reid's staff.

BB gonna sit out a year now?

He knew the Ravens were never winning with Lamar. Head to the NFC.

I could see Belichick landing in Buffalo if McDermott fails to make it to the conference title game. McDermott’s seat is not ice cold. I don’t think he can afford yet another early loss in the Playoffs. That would be 4 years in a row getting knocked out early.

Seahawks Hire Ravens DC Macdonald as HC
 

You gotta love it!

The problem is if you have a defensive HC and you lose your OC, it could affect continuity with your offense… see Buffalo when Daboll left.

I’d rather have consistency on offense with an offensive HC and replace a DC as needed than vise versa.

You gotta hope you get lucky...like the Chiefs.

You have Reid to take care of the offense and no one is interested in hiring Spags at this point.

Nobody wanted Spags in 2018. Not even Chiefs fans.

It was all “Well damn I gave you chicken shit and you gave me chicken shit salad. You suck!”

Similar deal for Cincy as well. Nobody wants to hire Lou because of his age compared to those 40 year old guys around the league, but he's one of the best DC's out there.

Ravens just lost their DB coach to the Titans. They’re getting gutted.

I think this is mostly correct. Teams were mostly not going to be able to compete offensively with a generational talent like Mahomes. So back around 2020, teams started focusing on defense to “contain” explosive offenses. And to a large degree it’s worked. Scoring is down the last two years. The Chiefs haven’t been as explosive as they were during Mahomes first years in the league. Things haven’t exactly panned out for the other teams seeking to build offensive juggernauts (Miami, Cincinnati). More balanced teams with strength on both sides of the ball are having some success (eagles, niners, ravens, rams, even chiefs). Teams are even emphasizing running the ball as being more important.

It is a cycle. For the past few years there has seemed to be more opportunity to improve through defense and ball control offense than by pushing the frontier on ever more explosive offenses. So that is the direction HC hires have gone.

Thanks, Mahomes.

I'm very interested in seeing how he does in Seattle. I think he had the perfect scheme for the defensive roster in Baltimore, so credit to him. He really highlighted the strengths of those linebackers and Kyle Hamilton. But I'm not convinced he's going to trot out elite defenses like that consistently.

Defenses went to smaller fast athletes. They play the back end to limit big plays.

I'm guessing offenses counter some going heavy and just running it at them.

This is the same exact problem in reverse. Guess how bad the defense was when we had that turd Bob Sutton?

You don't think Shannahan misses Robert Saleh and Demeco Ryans right now?