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scho63 03-21-2012 02:59 AM

Sam Mellinger: Chiefs whiff on chance to improve at QB
 
Scott Piolii will be happy to read this in the morning's paper....

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...o-improve.html

ROFL

Can't say I disagreee

Fritz88 03-21-2012 03:00 AM

Do us a favor and copy the text. Some of us us mobile phones.
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scho63 03-21-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8478725)
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Your wish is my command.......

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Chiefs whiff on chance to improve at QB

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy

The question is simple, and I am asking it directly: Do the Chiefs have a better quarterback situation now than when last season ended?

In other words, is Matt Cassel with Brady Quinn better than Cassel with Kyle Orton? Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli is trying to answer the question, and for that he gets credit.

For the answer itself, though, you can be the judge:

“I think we have a very good quarterback situation now,” he says. “I haven’t looked at it through that prism. I think we have a very good and very competitive quarterback situation. I really do. And it is what it is. You know what I mean? That’s the situation we have. And I’m very comfortable with it.”

Pioli promises he’s good with this, but it’s hard to imagine many Chiefs fans feeling the same way. Peyton Manning is in Denver now, without taking the time to even visit Kansas City — even after talking with Pioli and hearing owner Clark Hunt take the Chiefs’ wooing national.

Instead, the Chiefs have a clearly inferior quarterback situation after an offseason publicly devoted to improving the quarterback situation. Orton beat out Quinn in Denver last year, is the only one of the two with any NFL success … and left to be the backup in Dallas.

Pioli called Orton’s contract (essentially a three-year contract worth $10.5 million) “very, very generous,” but when he’s done mocking the deal he’ll have to realize that money the Chiefs have and will soon be required to spend could’ve been used to back up his own public promises.

An offseason that began with Pioli and coach Romeo Crennel talking about better quarterback competition, and that spiked with owner Hunt telling the world his team wanted Manning, is now winding down with a weaker quarterback situation than what the Chiefs ended last season with. Let that sink in.

Pioli did a lot of good things this offseason, and he might do more before next month’s draft. The Chiefs signed a power running back (Peyton Hillis) to complement Jamaal Charles. They signed a legitimate No. 2 cornerback (Stanford Routt) when the price for Brandon Carr went too high. They added a solid tight end (Kevin Boss) as insurance for Tony Moeaki.

Most important, they signed the free-agent market’s best right tackle (Eric Winston) to fill the first-string’s biggest hole.

It’s just that on what should have been the Chiefs’ most important offseason priority — the only thing that could’ve drastically improved the franchise — Pioli whiffed.

That’s it.

Just whiffed.


And worse: He apparently doesn’t even know why Manning wouldn’t consider the Chiefs.

“He never explained to me nor did I ask,” Pioli said. “ … I don’t think it was my place to do that.”

Now, Pioli even addressing this is progress. A year ago, it would’ve been hard to imagine him talking about a player who signed somewhere else. But the Chiefs have made a concerted effort to speak more openly to fans, so Pioli found himself talking about his pursuit of Manning.

But what came in the answers can be no consolation to Chiefs fans.

The Chiefs — considering the team’s cap space, strong roster and Hunt’s words — were among Manning’s biggest snubs. Among other teams that couldn’t get a face-to-face with Manning, Washington traded for the opportunity to draft Robert Griffin III and the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a surprisingly reasonable contract.

Pioli’s conference call with reporters on Tuesday was cut short after about 17 minutes by some technical glitches, and he didn’t respond to follow-up questions sent through the team’s communications department about whether he knew whether Manning’s snub was fueled by anything specific about the Chiefs.

That means many will speculate that well-known drama within the organization made Manning unwilling to even visit (even as another Chiefs source stressed this wasn’t the case).

That’s not entirely fair. Manning’s snub of the Chiefs isn’t necessarily a middle finger at Hunt or Pioli any more than his refusal to meet with the Seahawks or Jets is a middle finger to those organizations.

If it was only about the best chance of winning right away, the Chiefs are a better choice than the Broncos. But if it was only about the best chance of winning right away, the 49ers, a team he also snubbed, are a better choice than the Chiefs.

Manning held his introductory news conference in Denver on Tuesday and spoke mostly in generalities about choosing the Broncos.

He emphasized his comfort with owner Pat Bowlen and VP of football operations John Elway — which could be interpreted that the Chiefs lacked the right leadership.

But he also said “this is a now situation” and Elway added “there is no plan B” — which can only be heard as the antithesis of Pioli’s Chiefs.

Manning’s truest and unfiltered thoughts about the teams he didn’t choose probably won’t ever go public. That’s just not his style, and Pioli says he won’t spend time worrying over things he can’t control, that his job is to manage the things he can control.

But Pioli’s well-earned reputation of being meticulous and researching every possibility makes it hard to believe he’s content taking an ambiguous thanks-but-no-thanks from the one player who could’ve instantly made this franchise a serious Super Bowl threat.

Pioli did enough other good things to take some of the sting from not upgrading at quarterback, but if he didn’t find out why Manning skipped Kansas City, then how can he know whether it was something he could control?

And if he really doesn’t have the answer, how can Chiefs fans know everything possible is being done to win a championship?

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...#storylink=cpy

BigMeatballDave 03-21-2012 03:05 AM

Pioli is a ****ing liar.

Rotting scrotums > Pioli

Fritz88 03-21-2012 03:07 AM

Thanks

btlook1 03-21-2012 03:17 AM

I agree with this article!! The Chiefs whiffed in a big way, granted 5 years 90+ mil...was way to much to spend on Manning. Question is will Cassle show up next year or are we doomed before the season starts?

jspchief 03-21-2012 03:29 AM

Nothing says Chamionship! Like the GM referring to the QB situation as "it is what it is".

/wrist

threebag 03-21-2012 03:32 AM

The Matt Cassel is a ProBowl Quarterback. Feel good about it.

Rasputin 03-21-2012 03:35 AM

We have whiffed for the last 40 years. Lenny the Cool is only QB the Chiefs got right. Jury is out on Stanzi and maybe even Brady Quinn but I want us to go after a high round QB if not this year then next. I'm not upset we didn't get Manning, I'm upset that year after year we fail to get a QB from the draft that we can get excited about and have some hope.

kcxiv 03-21-2012 03:41 AM

lol, Its not about whiffing on manning imo. ITs just we are stuck in the same ****ing situation as always, no damned legit qb.

Year after year, im sorry but i learned my lesson. We arent winning shit without a good qb. I fullly understand that now and there's nothing that wil change my mind. We stand no chance to win the Superbowl with Matt Cassel. NONE

kysirsoze 03-21-2012 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8478742)
Nothing says Chamionship! Like the GM referring to the QB situation as "it is what it is".

/wrist

Well.... It kind of is. If Matt Flynn is turns out to be a stud, then Pioli will look like a dumbass, but otherwise, what should he have done? I suppose re-signing Orton was a way he could have gone, but c'mon... that's not the change at QB everyone is looking for. Basically, in FA it was Manning or bust and he didn't want to be a Chief. I hope they address it in the draft but you can't manufacture a franchise QB out of thin air. The organization made it clear that Cassel isn't the golden boy by pursuing Manning. It's a matter of time and opportunity until Matt is out of the picture. That doesn't make Pioli a shitty GM.

The moment he passes on a legit QB shot to stick with Cassel or any other "safe" option, I'll agree, but I don't know what else he could have done. (Again, other than sign a former back-up that looked good with an elite offense)

kysirsoze 03-21-2012 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8478747)
lol, Its not about whiffing on manning imo. ITs just we are stuck in the same ****ing situation as always, no damned legit qb.

Year after year, im sorry but i learned my lesson. We arent winning shit without a good qb. I fullly understand that now and there's nothing that wil change my mind. We stand no chance to win the Superbowl with Matt Cassel. NONE

I think this fanbase is too easy to pour all of our years of QB woes onto Pioli. He tried to address it with Cassel and clearly failed. They've now publicly admitted their mistake with the pursuit of Cassel. If they stand pat, I totally get the hate. I hope they don't. I guess we'll see.

kcxiv 03-21-2012 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8478749)
I think this fanbase is too easy to pour all of our years of QB woes onto Pioli. He tried to address it with Cassel and clearly failed. They've now publicly admitted their mistake with the pursuit of Cassel. If they stand pat, I totally get the hate. I hope they don't. I guess we'll see.

THe thing is, the fans have seen this script already. We know how it ends up. It ends up in a first round play off ass raping at best. Defense is good, gets us to the play offs, but in the play offs when you need your Offense to step up and make plays, it dont work.

I remember that Ravens game a few years back. Jamaal Charles broke a 50 yarder for a td we go up 7-0 and then proceed to give up 30 unanswered points. We dont even move the ball after that. WE still dont have a QB that can make the big play. Say wha tyou want about FLacco that game. He was making some damned good passes to Heap all day long and we couldnt do ANYTHING.

Same thing will happen once we face them elite teams. It makes me not really look forward to football season because, ive already seen this movie.

Fritz88 03-21-2012 04:17 AM

I really do believe that Polio is starting to feel the heat from this Cassel experiment.
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evolve27 03-21-2012 04:42 AM

Nothing new, Peyton didn't want to come here. Cassel is horrible. We should have kept Orton. Need to draft a QB. Pioli is cheap.


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