I have this freind who is a democrat and.........

[Logical]

His wife is checking me out all the time. Since he feels so compeled to have these losers in office who keep taking my money without asking, would I be wrong to start taking his wife without asking?.

BIG DADDY:
Just looking for an equitable solution.

[Warrior5]

In political situations, anything and everything is fair game. Just watch out for those pregnant chad!!

ct

[Lurker Brett]

Damned if I know, but I guess you could ask the Florida Supreme Court, since you are wanting something Demorcrat, they would probably approve.

[TEX]

I guess if she says no, you can keep asking her in different ways until she agrees with you...and a true dem. wouldn't think that was wrong, would they? http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

[Lightning Rod]

I honestly believe that this topic is disgusting and highly offensive.

If accepting posts by bigots is policy here at the Planet, I don't want to be a part of it.

bigot (bîg´et) noun
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Not only does this topic show bias and bigotry against nearly half of our society, it also shows an extreme lack of class by making fun of a very serious and very saddening occurance in our society - adultery.

BIG_DADDY, I am embarassed for you.

I don't care if any of you will miss me or not, but I will say that I am deeply saddened by the political mud that is being tossed on this, a Chiefs, BB. First and foremost we are all Americans, not some BB clique of "cool" guys vs. "retards". And people who are just stating their opinions(not trolls mind you) should be treated with respect.

C-ya!....OR NOT!<BR>

[TEX]

I think someone needs to get some thicker skin...we all see and hear things we don't agree with every day..its just that ALL of us don't throw a temper tantrum every time we don't agree...

If you don't agree, only read the FB topics..

buck up little camper, it will be ok, your man will cheat his way into office...

[Go Chiefs]

Hey Disco, don't trip over your butterfly collars or bell bottoms on your way out.

[Dr. Red]

Wow!! This may be the first time I've ever heard a democrat call adultery a serious and saddening problem. Seriously. Most have renamed it 'a journey of self-discovery.'

[TheBigChief]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>buck up little camper, it will be ok<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL, I love that saying! :D

Disco, don't be so dang sensitive. You're obviously upset about something other than this thread...

[Logical]

Disco,
1st - Disco Sucks. (BIG DADDY finds it offensive)

2nd - If people insist on taking what's important to me $$$$, and think that it is funny when it pisses me off then why shouldnt I take what is important to them. Just because half of society wants something doesn't make it right.

3rd - You have to have alot of nerve to speak of adultry from the higher ground when you are a democrat.

4th - As far as the bigot thing goes, The democrats are so partial to there own cause that they are willing to lie, cheat and steal to get what they want and are intolerant of all those who appose them.

BIG DADDY
Says that you have no ground to stand on and is embarassed for anyone who would call themselves Disco.

[Dr. Red]

And Disco - I am offended thatyou would call our expressions of indignation at Democrat tactics bigotry. AlGore and his crew clearly hate anyone who doesn't support them. We are now in a power struggle on 'their' turf [plaintiff's attorneys and judicial activism]. Now, not only do you want us to stand idly by while they trample the core of the executive, judicial and electoral system, but you want us to love them for it??

[Logical]

Disco,
The democrats are out to that republican money. Seems like a fair trade off.
What does your wife look like anyways?. OOOOOOOOAHHHHH

BIG DADDY
Out to get me some of that married Democratic P*ssy. :p

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[Bob Dole]

Honestly,

That is an all time low for this board. Just because someone is of one party does not mean they stand for all that party does.


Big Dick,
Do you own a stock in the planes that flew drugs and weapons during the Iran/Contra affair? Can I buy one of those guns to shoot you with?????????????????????????

[Idahojim]

OK boys and girls,let's be nice to each other...SANTA IS WATCHING YOU ! ;) http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[bkkcoh]

Meeeeee aaaaaaand Mrs.....Mrs. Jones,Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones.
We gotta thing....goin' on.

Lighten up Francis!

[Lightning Rod]

1. I never said that I was Democrat. Let me rephrase that: I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT. Once again, it shows the shortsitedness of many on this board to assume so.

2. I never voted for Bill Clinton, either term.

3. Your replies validate my point. And by reaffirming that you are serious in your views, I feel more pity for you. Don't you realize that the Repubs in Congress have just as much responsibility as the Dem Pres. for taking your $$$? Truly sad.

4. The bigotry is true by definition and I stated that it was toward half the population because the results of the popular vote would back that up. The point I was trying to make is that IMHO this kind of bigotry is worse than racism.

HC_Chief - You are right. I am upset about something else. It is all the name-calling, stereotyping, and generally bigoted behaviour that I have seen on this board since Nov. 7.

I can take the disco cracks. Don't really care what any of you think about that. :)

"All pigs are created equal, except some are more equal than others." Animal Farm

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[TheBigChief]

Disco - you really shouldn't let it bother you so much! This is an open forum... there will be many views which oppose the values/beliefs you hold. Have to take it all in stride. (unless of course, it's ignorant smack by stinking donkey & faider fans!!) http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Lightning Rod]

HC - LOL! Yeah, Raider fans are fair game as far as I'm concerned.

I am truly saddened by the moral degradation displyed here. By saying that since the Dems did it, it is okay, is like saying, "well, since Hitler killed some Jews, I should be able to kill all _______ (fill in the blank here)."

Politics and morality are not the same. Just like football and hockey aren't the same.

Show a little backbone. You can be against the political tactics, but don't succumb to them.

[ROBHONDA]

well said dj.
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[TEX]

Disco,

FWIW, I am an independent, who happens to think GORE is a liar and crook, which he may have become from the old "birds of a feather" with Billary...

If YOU disagree with an oppinion, it is just your right and its ok, but it appears that anyone who disagrees with your point is a bigot...and for you to ***** about name calling in the same reply is pretty hypocritical...calling someone a Biggot in my oppinion is pretty serious..

[Logical]

Disco,
1. You sound less tolerant than anybody with your morality issues.

2. I never called anybody a name, I believe that was Pam ( a democrat ) calling me a BIG DICK.

3. I am not a Republican either, I am a Libertarian. So I guess we both made the same assumption.

4. The reason I don't cap on Republicans as much is due to the fact that they are not willing to do anything in order to win. If your so d*mn concerned about morals why are you not addressing the elections issues that are dragging this country into the sewer?.

[Dr. Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> disgusting, . . highly offensive, . . bigots, . . bias, . . express lack of class, . . embarassed for you, . . shortsighted, . . pity for you, . . worse than racism, . . name-calling, . . stereotyping. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right, the level of the discourse has lowered measurably of late.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> And why seest thou the mote in thy brother’s eye; but the beam that is in thy own eye thou considerest not? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Logical]

Pam,
It is all lieing, cheating and stealing. The shoe is just on the other foot. BIG DICK, WOW, thank you for noticing. It is time everyone come down on these democrats 10X. This last administration was the most corrupt in the history of our country and has attacked our constituion more than any in the past. It is quite clear now that the Gore adminstration is exactly the same. There are no rules in war and that is what I consider saving this country from these socialists. They obviously have no rules so why should I?.
BIG DADDY
Probably just needs another one of you spankings.

[Bob Dole]

No Clinton's has not been the most corrupt in history. He had plenty of examples to follow. REad up.

<BR>

[Logical]

Pam,
What kind of history are you teaching these kids anyways?. The democrats version I am sure. I also noticed that you haven't provided any examples, as usual. I was only talking about adultry and you start talking about shooting me. Talk about an extremist. Sheeesh :rolleyes:

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[Bob Dole]

Grant

Harding

Kennedy

Nixon

Johnson

Reagan

Bush


You could even add FDR and his court packing scheme as well.


The shooting thing was just to show you how stupid your adultry thing was. I would never shoot anyone. NOt even you.

Happy turkey day


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[Lightning Rod]

I guess this becomes a matter of semantics, so please try to understand what I am trying to say.

"I have this freind who is a democrat and..."

Okay, with the remainder of this statement, "democrat" is used in a derogatory manner. Can we agree on that?

If the sentence would have been more along the lines of, "I have this friend who is a poilitician....", I would probably be more understanding. Like several people on this board, I hold disdain for both major political parties. However, I do not show my disdain for them by insulting one and complimenting the other while blanketly telling only one side that I am justified in FU**ING their wives.

JC - if those are the most offensive things that you can dig up on me (and out of context to boot), than I am not concerned. Now, how many of you would like me to go through some of the other threads and find all the places where you call all democrats "losers", "morons", "idiots", "too stupid to have the right to vote", "liars",
"cheaters", "thieves", etc., etc.?

A solution to this mess will be found in unity not partisanship. If the people of this great nation would stand unified in their disdain for the current political PROCESS and not bicker about each other, we may actually see some change. I for one, am all for it. I cross party lines all the time with my IDEAS (note: not beliefs). Maybe some of you can join me.

[Lightning Rod]

Oops - double.


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[Logical]

Pam,
I beg to differ. I feel that this administration has done more to damn our constitution than any previous. EVEN ME huh, what is that supposed to mean?. Something like EVEN though I deserve it?.

DISCO,
I hate the two party system too. I just believe that the Democrats will spend more money and raise my taxes more than the Republicans will.I was never sticking up for the Republicans. I do really believe that the Demos must be stopped at all costs though and I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on that. I am going to spend good money this year to support organizations that will try and destry this party as I truely do despise what they are doing to our country. Got to go for now

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[Lightning Rod]

DADDY - I think that we are finally in agreement. I respect your conviction, maybe just not the methods. I also appreciate the trend toward civil discussion and I am personally glad that this didn't turn into a name calling contest. :)

I think we all want basically the same things from our government. I personally believe that the two party system has replaced the three braches of government. No longer do you have three INDEPENDENT branches policing each other, but instead, we have two parties that fight for control of the majority of these branches in order to obfuscate that policing ability. It is no longer executive, judicial, and representative. Our government is Republican and Democrat. Sooner or later, it will be our Constitutional responsibility as the citizens of this great nation to remedy this problem. As long as we have the right to vote and the right to freely voice our dissatisfaction, I will work within the system. When they come to shut me up, I'll go with a fight for my rights.<BR>

[Bob Dole]

Big daddy,

No you don't deserve it at all. I was just furious.

Now with that being said. What we need is to go bac to the old ways and put the leading vote getter as president and the runner up as vice president. It worked well in the beginning.

[ChiTown]

Geez, What's this country coming to when a guy can't have any fun anymore?

[Go Chiefs]

Big Daddy ". I am going to spend good money this year to support organizations that will try and destry this party as I truely do despise what they are doing to our country."

A few days ago I was looking for ideas along this line. I'd like to know more about these organizations and how to get involved.

Thanks in advance!!!

[ChiTown]

Wischief, You can check out www.echampion2000.com (http://www.echampion2000.com) That should get you started down the path.

[Dr. Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> Now, how many of you would like me to go through some of the other threads and find all the places where you call all democrats "losers", "morons", "idiots", "too stupid to have the right to vote", "liars",
"cheaters", "thieves", etc., etc.? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll bite. I don't think I've used any of those terms [save etc., one of my favs from the Greek, meaning "that's about it"].
My frustration stems from my interaction with a number of strong democrats who I respect a great deal.
First of all, a have trouble reconciling the solid citizenship of the 'ordinary' democrat with the stinking, festering, power-grab party the Clinton/Clinton/Gore/Begala/Carville/O'Donnell/Streisand/Baldwin figureheads have transformed it into.
Second, I am getting tired of having to closet each and every conservative view I hold, or even from defending a conservative as a person, in order to avoid the stares of approbation and snorts of indignation.

[Lightning Rod]

JC - You asked, so I will answer. Although you did not employ any of the terms that I quoted singularly, your post (#7) on this thread is in the same vein. And since you referred to the wording of my post (#4), it appears to me that you had also lumped me in with all democrats. I don't want to be arguementative and as far as I'm concerned this exercise is over.

Now, from the other parts of your post, it sounds like you live in a primarily democratic region. All I can say is, hang in there. You can make it. Heck, usually people look at me like I'm crazy whenever I go off about our government. I think more people are starting to come around though. Something's broken and we need to fix it - together as people not partisans.

[Devin Vierth]

Big Daddy,

Be proud anytime a woman puts you and big dick in the same context it has got to be goooood! ;)

Seriously in reply 9 you used a very effective rebuttal, congratulations.

[Devin Vierth]

Pam,

The electoral college goes back to the founding fathers, how much farther back do you want to go. Perhaps George did not go through the electoral college maybe even the next Pres or two but I would say that at least 90% were selected by the electoral college. Anybody who has the facts on this bit of trivia, I would be interested.

[Moon§hiner]

Logical:
http://www.sddt.com/features/convention/elections/

[Logical]

WisChief,
I believe that the Libertarians are doing as much as anyone to expose many of constitutional violations taking place in our goverment without a Democratic or Republican twist added in. It just so happens that the democrats are soooooo much more vulnerable to this type of reporting due to this administration. www.libertarian.com (http://www.libertarian.com) will get you there. I think anytime you join and support the NRA you are sticking it to Demo's. I also like to support certain advertising on www.newsmax.com (http://www.newsmax.com) as they will expose much of the goverments abuse of power through taking out adds in mayjor papers. They are currently doing one on voter fraud. There is a republican twist to this sight what they expose is no less real. I believe that we have to expose what is going on before we have a chance of shutting it down so this is where I will probably start.

[Logical]

BIG DADDY,
Also believes that the democrats are out to eliminate the middle class. All you have to do is look to europe to see our future if we don't do something aggresive to stop it. The demo's consider the rich to be households making over 50K, that isn't sh*t. They then pretend to care for the poor by increasing taxes on the real middle class households (50k-150k) all the while increasing spending and taxation with every new administration. That is why it is so easy to bunch together the demo's. When was the last time they decreased taxation or spent less money?. I truely do not have a problem taking from others who insist on taking things from me. When the Demo's show that they can considerably break their spending patterns and promote instead of destroy our constitution then we can talk about GOOD demo's. Until then I would advise the GOOD ones to find another party. That's why I am not a Republican anymore, I am a Libertarian.

[Luzap]

Disco:

This is an honest question, so please don't take it as anything but that.

Was it you that had the dissertation about "Baby Boomers" spending "your" taxes right now and leaving nothing for you, or was that someone else?

mark
*********

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Kilgore is a noun, not a verb..

[Bob Dole]

Political parties played an important part in choosing Washington's successor. In 1796, Jefferson was backed by what was called the Republican party and Aaron Burr for Vice. Federalists wanted Adams and Pickney for Vice

Under the Constitution, the person with the most electoral votes became pres and the person with the next highest was Vice.
Thus Adams Became President and Jefferson was Vice.

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[Logical]

Pam,
The vice president actually had alot more power then than he has today as well. I for one am not apposed to having that system if we had 3 or 4 strong parties instead of two.

BIG DADDY
Is going to be stay pissed off at these demos for some time though. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/mad.gif

[Devin Vierth]

Thanks Brock,

From this site I learned that even Washington was voted in through the Electoral college. I will be bookmarking this site as it contains a lot of interesting information.

Pam,

OOPs I missed your post 42 I now understand what you meant. I personally think that would be a bad thing. From what I have seen in States where the Gov and Lt. Gov can be from a different party you have even more intransigence and sniping. But who knows?

This has been an interesting discussion.

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[Logical]

They are coming over this Sunday and I swear if he starts rubbing this election in my face I'm going for it. Wish me luck.