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cdcox 12-31-2007 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts
I appreciate you being so patient with this, and explaining it for me. That said, and I want to make sure you understand, I mean no disrespect to you personally what so ever, I hope you are wrong as a mother****er!!!! :)

Me too. But if I turn out to be wrong, it's because the NFL changed rules mid-stream.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-31-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
Me too. But if I turn out to be wrong, it's because the NFL changed rules mid-stream.

That's what I'm afraid of. You've done more research and homework than ESPN. The NFL network's scenario backs up what you're saying 100%.

philfree 12-31-2007 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
I can't see the Rams passing up Dorsey or Long.

Pray Miami takes a QB.

I don't think Parcells will take a qb as his first pick with the Dolphins. This is interesting because the Raiders will have a chance to draft Howie Longs son. Would they pass on him?

PhilFree:arrow:

Mr. Flopnuts 12-31-2007 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree
I don't think Parcells will take a qb as his first pick with the Dolphins. This is interesting because the Raiders will have a chance to draft Howie Longs son. Would they pass on him?

PhilFree:arrow:



Knowing Al Davis,, I could easily see that happening.

JohnnyV13 12-31-2007 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
Me too. But if I turn out to be wrong, it's because the NFL changed rules mid-stream.


Not really, the most analogous situation is the wild card tiebreaker with a three way tie.

In that case, you don't use division tiebreakers even when 2 teams are in the same division and the 3rd is in another D. If I recall correctly, you go to conference record, then common opponents between the 3.

That's why the NFL had to wait until tomorrow to decide. This situation isn't really covered by the rules because Atlanta is in a different conference and you can't have a 3 way coin flip. Maybe they'll use some kind of lottery situation.

Arrowhead Pride 12-31-2007 05:14 AM

Great work cdcox. I hope you don't mind I lifted your analysis and posted it. With a link of course.

Ugly Duck 12-31-2007 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree
This is interesting because the Raiders will have a chance to draft Howie Longs son. Would they pass on him?

If McFadden was gone, we'd take him in heartbeat. We desperately need help on our porous D-line and the nostalia factor would be too great to ignore. He'd get #75 and hella hype. We've failed to sell out 2 homegames in each of the last 2 seasons. Jamarcus + Son of Howie would fix that.

Warrior5 12-31-2007 08:21 AM

Good grief!
 
CBS Sportsline has the Chiefs picking 3rd.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/order

Somebody's lying, and I don't think it's cdcox.

xbarretx 12-31-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5
CBS Sportsline has the Chiefs picking 3rd.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/order

Somebody's lying, and I don't think it's cdcox.

well, we should know where we stand today. it just depends on when the NFL does the tibreakers

so for the Chiefs......COME ON BIG BUCKS....NO WHAMMIES!!

patteeu 12-31-2007 08:37 AM

It's amazing how many times people came up with different answers even after cdcox did a great job of explaining how he came up with his. Even more amazing is the fact that the issue wasn't settled when the NFL itself published a draft order that complied with cdcox's analysis. Great job, cdcox.

blackhawk 12-31-2007 09:09 AM

Falcons, Oakland, K.C. vie for third draft pick

By CHRIS VIVLAMORE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 12/31/07

This story corrects an earlier version that inaccurately stated the Falcons had clinched the third pick in the 2008 draft.

The Falcons will select third, fourth or fifth in the 2008 NFL draft after a coin flip on Monday will be used to break a three-way tie.

The Falcons are tied with Oakland and Kansas City. All three teams, plus, the New York Jets, finished at 4-12. The Falcons, Raiders and Chiefs finished with identical strengths of schedule. The NFL has no other tie-breaker in the case of three-way ties. The Jets had a tougher strength of schedule than the three other teams and will pick sixth.

Miami (1-15) and St. Louis (3-13) will make the first two picks.

San Francisco and Baltimore both finished 5-11. New England, which owns the 49ers' first-round pick, will select seventh and the Ravens eighth based on strength of schedule.

Seven teams are tied with 7-9 records. Next are four teams at 8-8, including Houston. Since the Falcons receive the Texans' second-round pick from the Matt Schaub trade, they will also make a selection between 16th and 19th in the second round, pending tie-breakers.


2008 DRAFT ORDER

1. Miami

2. St. Louis

(tie) Atlanta/Oakland/Kansas City

Sure-Oz 12-31-2007 09:16 AM

When does this coin flip take place, #3 would be so badass

KCFalcon59 12-31-2007 09:25 AM

If it is done by a flip of a coin, that should be televised. I don't trust them mf'ers. They'd screw the chiefs everytime. Oh well, since Herm/CP are still going to be around they will screw the pick up anyway.

Arrowhead Pride 12-31-2007 09:25 AM

NFL.com actually has the Chiefs in 3rd place right now:

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Common games is the third tie breaker between divisional teams that are tied. The Chiefs have a better common opponent win %.

eazyb81 12-31-2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
When does this coin flip take place, #3 would be so badass

Yes it would.

I would love to see a scenario where DMC falls to us and teams are falling over themselves to trade up for him. I know most on here don't want to trade down but we can get a crazy package for him.


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