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jspchief 05-05-2005 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
Yea, the same can be said for rookies coming out of college. :rolleyes:

The guy is gaining "real world" experience on the football field- if anything, he's elevating his confidence and if he brings that confidence to KC in addition to his experience- he will then play in the NFL- maybe not as an immediate starter, but as a contributor.

These guys are below the cream of the college crop. Roll your eyes all you want, the fact remains that success in NFLE doesn't automatically translate to success in the NFL. I'm not saying He has not shot, just that I'm viewing his performance from a realistic stance. If you want to start his Hall of Fame campaign, be my guest. I'm just a little skeptical.

Especially since it's tackling. Like I said in my other post, any football league is going to have someone that leads in tackling. Someone has to make the tackles.

bkkcoh 05-05-2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BobChief
Maybe if you choose to ignore that Hall's "escort" now plays for the Jets.


I think he would be able to be replaced and effectively, don't you??

ROYC75 05-05-2005 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
It's great that Scanlon is doing well. Hopefully he can be a much needed contributor on special teams.

I don't out too much stock in it though. He's doing it against less than NFL talent, and the fact remains that someone is going to get a lot of tackles on every team in every football league in the world. Being the shiniest turd in the pile doesn't necessarily mean you're not a turd.

It's too bad NFLE doesn't keep tackles stats. I'd like to see who led the league the last few years, and how they've done in the NFL since.

You give props but then try to take them away ?

You will always have a player that leads the team in tackles as much weak defensive team will have a top 10 tackler in the league stats. If a team is on the field often, they are going to see or have many plays ran against them, thus having somebody with a high stat total.

The fact that Rich is leading the NFLE in tackles, what's even more amazing is it's in less plays per game than any other team or player.
I have always said not only does he have the ability to make tackles, he is always around the ball and in position to make plays. That starts in the head, readding the play and being in position to make a play. That kind of player will excell in the NFL if given a chance.

I expect Rich to be the backup MLB and (the all world ) Grigsby to be moved to the OLB to utilize his speed. After all, Gun wants more speed in his defense.

jspchief 05-05-2005 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
You give props but then try to take them away ?

Yes. It's called cautious optimism.

Some people aroud here could probably stand to practice it themselves. It might help keep them from becoming the butt of jokes for making outlandish claims and predictions based on performance in a less than authentic setting.

ROYC75 05-05-2005 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
Yes. It's called cautious optimism.

Some people aroud here could probably stand to practice it themselves. It might help keep them from becoming the butt of jokes for making outlandish claims and predictions based on performance in a less than authentic setting.


True, but when said one does see talent that others do not and speaks of it, to back down shows a weak side. In the long run when said one is proven right the the credibility duely noted.

Remember , he who laughs last laughs the loudest ! ROFL

CosmicPal 05-05-2005 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
These guys are below the cream of the college crop. Roll your eyes all you want, the fact remains that success in NFLE doesn't automatically translate to success in the NFL..

And that's where you are wrong. A lot of these guys are mid-to-late round draft picks and free agents who need more playing time to fine-tune a part of their game.

Scott Connot is a perfect example- his play overseas is proving he knows how to get to the ball and that translates well to the NFL.

Again- I'm not saying any of these guys are immediate starters, but they CAN be contributors....

Let's put it this way- why the ***** would the NFL teams send these guys, and pay these guys to challenge for a spot in the NFL if, by your terms- they have no chance? Seems like a lot of wasted money to me....

Bob Dole 05-05-2005 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh
I think he would be able to be replaced and effectively, don't you??

Bob Dole thinks you undervalue Blaylock's speed and vision.

We'll see...

Boise_Chief 05-05-2005 09:20 AM

The thing about scanlon is that a certain poster has run him into the ground. When reading about him in this article my thoughts were : Right on that's great.... ahhh crap we'll have to read about how he's the next coming for a month.....

NY CHIEF 05-05-2005 09:33 AM

To be fair to rich scanlon, people have complained about who he has played against... yet they think boomer is starting material. I would think that nfl europe is much stiffer competition than division 1aa! hopefully both will contribute to the chiefs this year :hmmm:

ROYC75 05-05-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NY CHIEF
To be fair to rich scanlon, people have complained about who he has played against... yet they think boomer is starting material. I would think that nfl europe is much stiffer competition than division 1aa! hopefully both will contribute to the chiefs this year :hmmm:


And to think that Rich's talent exceled against top NCAA teams does nothing for his ability to many members ? But an NCAA 1AA talented player with a firery tounge just what the Chiefs need ?

Bob Dole 05-05-2005 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
And to think that Rich's talent exceled against top NCAA teams does nothing for his ability to many members ? But an NCAA 1AA talented player with a firery tounge just what the Chiefs need ?

Actually, what the Chiefs <b>need</b> is more attractive cheerleaders.

ROYC75 05-05-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boise_Chief
The thing about scanlon is that a certain poster has run him into the ground. When reading about him in this article my thoughts were : Right on that's great.... ahhh crap we'll have to read about how he's the next coming for a month.....

This is no baby BB, speak what you mean . I have balls, do you ? If you are in fact speaking of me, say it, I could handle the critics.

Run him in the ground ? Isn't that what many here are doing without seeing his talents ?

Coogs 05-05-2005 09:49 AM

If anybody here watches NFLEuro, how has the Texans QB Ragone looked. He is sitting behind Carr on the Texans depth chart, and has to be comming up for free agency sometime in the next couple of years I would think. I always liked him when he was at Louisville, and was wondering if he is showing much this season? Could he be a potential QBOTF candidate for the Chiefs?

Mr. Laz 05-05-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac
A quick look at the Admirals defensive sheet shows yet another Chiefs player at the top of the page. S Scott Connot has started all five games at safety for Amsterdam, leading the club with 32 tackles (28 solo) and four passes defensed. He led the club with seven tackles, one pass defensed and a fumble recovery last week at Berlin (4/30).

IIRC we cut Connot around the time we signed Knight

ROYC75 05-05-2005 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BobChief
Actually, what the Chiefs <b>need</b> is more attractive cheerleaders.


I agree, the Chiefs cheerleaders are dead last in the league .... # 32


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