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mikey23545 05-30-2013 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9719560)
One of the biggest misnomers of Alex Smith is that he is a "safe qb" who dumps it off a lot. % of passes to hbs is less than the average of the league. His ypa last year was among the best last year. He plays safe and smart with the ball, but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the ball down field.

I'd love for someone to provide some statistical evidence to support that Alex Smith dumps balls off more than the average NFL qb.
Gochiefs probably could, but he stays kinda busy letting guys dump balls off into his mouth...

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9719560)
I'd love for someone to provide some statistical evidence to support that Alex Smith dumps balls off more than the average NFL qb.
Alex Smith dumps the ball off more than Matt Cassel. Ponder this:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...hiefs-getting/

http://i.imgur.com/v1jJdze.jpg

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9719542)
Someone who knows nothing about football gives his opinion and it includes "I really didn't pay too much attention".

Shocker Clay, shocker.
Eat shit, asshole. I was referring to the link. Everyone knows Alex Smith is a dumpoff queen.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9719527)
But I thought Alex Smith WAS Cassel according to you **** sticks.
Given a similar environment, he probably would be. And in fact, was, for the majority of his career.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-30-2013 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 9718990)
A plane that he won't be able to touch down in, so it will break apart in mid air.
Scary!!!

Pasta Little Brioni 05-30-2013 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs316 (Post 9719502)
Another stat proving Cassel is who we thought he was. Good riddance. At least Smith isn't part of the lower end. Crawling back in my hole now.

PFF exposed Cassel as a fraud before he even got here. They are MUCH more favorable towards Alex.

ChiefRocka 05-30-2013 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9718966)
Drew Brees mole > Alex Smith
That thing came back again??

Sandy Vagina 05-30-2013 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9719530)
Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle notes via Stats Inc. that only Tom Brady has a higher QB rating against the blitz this season. Smith has completed 18 of 24 passes for 229 yards with two touchdowns for a 132 rating.

This was 2011. I don't know what it was for 2012, but his QB rating was significantly higher in 2012 than it was in 2011..so I imagine that it was the same or better.


2012 / when Alex was blitzed = 126.8 QBR with 8 TDs and 1 INT. :thumb:

EDIT: though PFF shows that his 2011 was a 97.6 QBR.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9719876)
2012 / when Alex was blitzed = 126.8 QBR with 8 TDs and 1 INT. :thumb:.
That doesn't really mean much when you suck on third down for your entire career.

That is the most consistent thing about Alex Smith over the years.

Sandy Vagina 05-30-2013 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719901)
That doesn't really mean much when you suck on third down for your entire career.

That is the most consistent thing about Alex Smith over the years.
Team stat. There were many other reasons outside of Alex as to why our 3rd down conversion rate suffered.

Believe what you want to try and lessen your QB, if that makes you feel better, though.

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9719915)
Team stat. There were many other reasons outside of Alex as to why our 3rd down conversion rate suffered.
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Alex did not play with the same team for every season of his career.

He was the one constant, and the 49ers constantly sucked on third down.

So much so that they had a higher third down conversion rate the year he was injured.

notorious 05-30-2013 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719473)
Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.
That's how we ****ing roll.

Sandy Vagina 05-30-2013 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9719916)
Alex did not play with the same team for every season of his career.

He was the one constant, and the 49ers constantly sucked on third down.

So much so that they had a higher third down conversion rate the year he was injured.
Guess Reid is an idiot and the Chiefs are screwed then. Guess Harbaugh was a fool to have Alex on as the 2nd highest paid 49er. Oh well. Everyone should just give up and leave the forum now. Nothing to see here, except doom and gloom.

:lame:

Hammock Parties 05-30-2013 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9719927)
Guess Reid is an idiot and the Chiefs are screwed then.
Probably. We'll win just enough to see Alex blow it when it truly matters.

Sandy Vagina 05-30-2013 06:59 PM
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Are sacks down; TD passes up; completion percentage higher; QB yardage on the ground better; scoring production up; 3rd down conversion percentage improved; red zone productivity improved, etc.?

Here are some statistical comparisons between the two QBs.

Smith has 8 games and Kaepernick has 4 games where they were the starters and played the entire game, and although the totals are different, the percentages can be compared. The difference between the two QBs is microscopic. It seems Harbaugh’s preference is the only reason Kaepernick is playing QB now that Smith is concussion free, because all of the skills that Kaepernick is supposed to have that are better than Smith seemingly have not been converted into points and productivity.
source: pressdemocrat.com


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