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kcbubb 07-29-2009 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5933403)
Let me bottom line it for you.

Every SB winner, regardless of any other factor had one thing in common.

They had a pocket passer at QB.

Some were better scramblers than others.
Some were greats, some were mediocre.

But every single SB winning QB has been a pass first, run out of necessity QB.

Good defenses can contain a mediocre QB who's a runner first.
It's why Vick struggled mightily against the Bucs.

It's why Steve Young couldn't get out of the NFC playoffs until he became a passer first.
Gailey's offense was primarily pocket passing. But the offense was designed to be easier to read and make decisions.

I would say that Gailey's offense last year was pass first. But the reads were easier for the QB. This would have helped Vick.

milkman 07-29-2009 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5933500)
Gailey's offense was primarily pocket passing. But the offense was designed to be easier to read and make decisions.

I would say that Gailey's offense last year was pass first. But the reads were easier for the QB. This would have helped Vick.
Let's emphasize "reads" and "make decisions", the part of quarterbacking that Vick sucks at, along with a terrible inaccuracy that makes Tyler Thigpen look like a marksman by comparison.

It's like trying to fix leaky faucet with masking tape.

kcbubb 07-29-2009 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5933533)
Let's emphasize "reads" and "make decisions", the part of quarterbacking that Vick sucks at, along with a terrible inaccuracy that makes Tyler Thigpen look like a marksman by comparison.

It's like trying to fix leaky faucet with masking tape.
How many times did Vick go the pro bowl???? He's not an elite passer, but he should be better than Thigpen especially in the old offense.

milkman 07-29-2009 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5933642)
How many times did Vick go the pro bowl???? He's not an elite passer, but he should be better than Thigpen especially in the old offense.
Who gives a rat's ass how many times Vick went to the PB?

I'm done with this.

You clearly are a ****ing moron who is trying to justify the idea of keeping Herman ****ing Edwards and signing Vick.

And neither are justifiable.

kcbubb 07-29-2009 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5933654)
Who gives a rat's ass how many times Vick went to the PB?

I'm done with this.

You clearly are a ****ing moron who is trying to justify the idea of keeping Herman ****ing Edwards and signing Vick.

And neither are justifiable.
no on Edwards and maybe on Vick. I think you don't have much risk with Vick and he does have some upside. You can sign him cheap and if he doesn't work out, you cut him. And he can always just run the wild cat. The fins drafted pat white in the 2nd to run the wild cat. That alone has some value.

I don't like a lot of what Edwards did and I really don't like the direction of the current regime, especially defensively and with the offensive line.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-29-2009 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5933426)
ROFL

King_Chief_Fan 07-29-2009 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5933403)
But every single SB winning QB has been a pass first, run out of necessity QB.

Good defenses can contain a mediocre QB who's a runner first.
It's why Vick struggled mightily against the Bucs.

It's why Steve Young couldn't get out of the NFC playoffs until he became a passer first.
Exactly....not to mention how a so so Chiefs team kicked the living crap out of the falcons. They had vick shut down.....The Chiefs had vick shut down....the Chiefs had vick shut down....KCBubb, do you get the picture?

The Franchise 07-29-2009 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5933642)
How many times did Vick go the pro bowl???? He's not an elite passer, but he should be better than Thigpen especially in the old offense.
He went to the Pro Bowl because he's a GD RB in a QBs position. He didn't go for his ****ing passing. And last I checked....going to Pro Bowls doesn't automatically win you a ****ing championship.


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