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Saul Good 02-16-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8377583)
Your words, not mine.

I coach the kids to block shots, steal the basketball, try to draw charges. In my daughter's case, she leads her team in blocked shots, but that also leads to her getting called for other fouls relating to her defensive efforts. Also, when a player is trying to get into position to try and draw a charge - a difficult call to receive in youth sports, many refs go straight to the blocking call. Attempted steals lead to reaching in. It's part of the game. Technical fouls are to be avoided, but they happen. In the CYO league, if a player plays defense in the back court prior to the 4th quarter, they can draw a T. It's unfortunate, but sometimes all it takes is an errant pass that goes right into a players hands.

If it gives you satisfaction to exagerate my comments to ludicrous levels, I'll let it slide. I've come to expect it.

Your stupid comments stand on their own merits. Mizzou didn't play hard enough on defense in a game where they gave up 22 points at halftime, took a 35 point lead, and cleared the bench with six minutes left.

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8377633)
Your stupid comments stand on their own merits. Mizzou didn't play hard enough on defense in a game where they gave up 22 points at halftime, took a 35 point lead, and cleared the bench with six minutes left.

He's just a poor, misunderstood Beaker.

That's all they ever are.

Braincase 02-16-2012 11:44 AM

Please accept my apologies for any personal attacks that I've made towards anyone in this thread. Clearly, I've stepped over a line somewhere to warrant some of the comments directed at me.

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8377681)
Please accept my apologies for any personal attacks that I've made towards anyone in this thread. Clearly, I've stepped over a line somewhere to warrant some of the comments directed at me.

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-...est-violin.gif

smittysbar 02-16-2012 12:49 PM

Fun game to watch! So pumped for Mizzou right now. The D looked really good last night.

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377806)
Fun game to watch! So pumped for Mizzou right now. The D looked really good last night.

Gave up more than 64 points.

Pants assures me that the defense, therefore, must've been dogshit.

I'm learning a lot from the Beakers these days.

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8377830)
Gave up more than 64 points.

Pants assures me that the defense, therefore, must've been dogshit.

I'm learning a lot from the Beakers these days.

For sure, I didn't realize how uneducated I was on BB. Thank god they are here for us, now if we could figure out how to get everyone to foul out.....

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377859)
For sure, I didn't realize how uneducated I was on BB. Thank god they are here for us, now if we could figure out how to get everyone to foul out.....

And law. And psychology. And Sociology.

You have no idea how helpful these guys have been of late.

Bearcat 02-16-2012 01:21 PM

Helen Keller could say the sky was green, and some of you would spend 3 months posting pictures of the sky and talking about how all women had assured you the sky was green.

No complex at all...

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8377902)
Helen Keller could say the sky was green, and some of you would spend 3 months posting pictures of the sky and talking about how all women had assured you the sky was green.

No complex at all...

If Hellen Keller went around telling people with sight that the sky was green, we would all know that she was a Jayhawk fan.

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8377873)
And law. And psychology. And Sociology.

You have no idea how helpful these guys have been of late.

My take so far
Home cookin' cost KU the game
KCC is still a cry baby
We are in no way the better team despite ranking, record, and H2H
We don't care about BB
Even more KU does not care about MU
Players need more fouls (works in Jr. high girls BB)
In no way shape or form should we get any excitement out of our team, we need to act like we have been there.
And we are going to get stomped at AFH

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8377902)
Helen Keller could say the sky was green, and some of you would spend 3 months posting pictures of the sky and talking about how all women had assured you the sky was green.

No complex at all...

And you point is?
http://www.irishviews.com/clouds-in-green-sky3.jpg

kepp 02-16-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377916)
My take so far
Home cookin' cost KU the game
KCC is still a cry baby
We are in no way the better team despite ranking, record, and H2H
We don't care about BB
Even more KU does not care about MU
Players need more fouls (works in Jr. high girls BB)
In no way shape or form should we get any excitement out of our team, we need to act like we have been there.
And we are going to get stomped at AFH

You may now flip your tassel to the other side of your hat. You have graduated.

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 8377951)
You may now flip your tassel to the other side of your hat. You have graduated.

Hard work and determination pays off in the end, whooo hooooo

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377961)
Hard work and determination pays off in the end, whooo hooooo


You can get your masters in stupidity if you put together a thesis from the KU/MU thread and the newest conference re-alignment thread.

Really, this thread amounts to little more than an associates degree in Beaker Madness.

Pitt Gorilla 02-16-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8377384)
Get a grip, guys... FFS, it's not like anyone thought MU wasn't going to win by 20+ after losing in Stillwater. He didn't insult anyone's mother. He didn't "spout off" any disrespect towards MU.

So sensitive...

You seem awfully sensitive to how posters are reacting to his post.

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8377973)
You can get your masters in stupidity if you put together a thesis from the KU/MU thread and the newest conference re-alignment thread.

Really, this thread amounts to little more than an associates degree in Beaker Madness.

Just tackling this one now, Quality time with family is going to suffer.

DeezNutz 02-16-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377916)
My take so far
Home cookin' cost KU the game
KCC is still a cry baby
We are in no way the better team despite ranking, record, and H2H
We don't care about BB
Even more KU does not care about MU
Players need more fouls (works in Jr. high girls BB)
In no way shape or form should we get any excitement out of our team, we need to act like we have been there.
And we are going to get stomped at AFH

Fouling for the sake of fouling is always, ALWAYS a good decision. Use 'em or lose 'em!

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 01:56 PM

I think that's their new thing.

They say something insanely stupid, refuse to retract it, dig in harder on it, then call you obsessed when you don't let it go immediately despite their continued defense of whatever idiocy they have presented.

I'm not sure how it works, but using my trusty "Beaker to Labrador" conversion table, I think it's akin to yelling at a dog after it bites you when you won't stop kicking it.

"{kick/bite} Goddamn dog - why do you keep biting me?! {kick/bite}"

Frazod 02-16-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8377993)
I think that's their new thing.

They say something insanely stupid, refuse to retract it, dig in harder on it, then call you obsessed when you don't let it go immediately despite their continued defense of whatever idiocy they have presented.

I'm not sure how it works, but using my trusty "Beaker to Labrador" conversion table, I think it's akin to yelling at a dog after it bites you when you won't stop kicking it.

"{kick/bite} Goddamn dog - why do you keep biting me?! {kick/bite}"

I had a neighbor once whose labrador ate its own turds. Do beakers do that?

smittysbar 02-16-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8377997)
I had a neighbor once whose labrador ate its own turds. Do beakers do that?

Just peck the corn out

Dartgod 02-16-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8377997)
I had a neighbor once whose labrador ate its own turds. Do beakers do that?

I had one of those. Put a bullet in it's head and saved 100's of beaker's lives.

Bearcat 02-16-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377916)
My take so far
Home cookin' cost KU the game
KCC is still a cry baby
We are in no way the better team despite ranking, record, and H2H
We don't care about BB
Even more KU does not care about MU
Players need more fouls (works in Jr. high girls BB)
In no way shape or form should we get any excitement out of our team, we need to act like we have been there.
And we are going to get stomped at AFH

Oooh, can I play?

Missouri has consistently been ranked in the top 25 in both football and basketball in the past decade.
Basketball is a secondary sport; Missouri fans don't care.
Missouri's B game beat KU's A game in Columbia.
Complaining about the refs after questionable calls against the team you root for is inexcusable, but complaining about calls in a game that didn't involve the team you root for is fine.
Kansas losing in the tournament brings elation to Missouri fans that would be comparable to Missouri winning a National Championship.
Kansas is like one missed basket away from being a complete disappointment for the past 25 years.

That's only off the top of my head though... :hmmm:

DJ's left nut 02-16-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8377997)
I had a neighbor once whose labrador ate its own turds. Do beakers do that?

Depends, do they want to eat the turds, or do they need to eat the turds?

Wait...I forgot, the distinction appears lost on them. So I would have to assume that yes - Beakers eat their own poop.

luv 02-16-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8378004)
Oooh, can I play?

1. Missouri has consistently been ranked in the top 25 in both football and basketball in the past decade.
2. Basketball is a secondary sport; Missouri fans don't care.
3. Missouri's B game beat KU's A game in Columbia.
4. Complaining about the refs after questionable calls against the team you root for is inexcusable, but complaining about calls in a game that didn't involve the team you root for is fine.
5. Kansas losing in the tournament brings elation to Missouri fans that would be comparable to Missouri winning a National Championship.
6. Kansas is like one missed basket away from being a complete disappointment for the past 25 years.

That's only off the top of my head though... :hmmm:

1. I'm not sure how that's bad. Is it not true?

2. Basketball is a secondary sport. I'd rather be better in football, but I wouldn't say that I don't care about basketball. It's fun to root for a team that's winning. I hope I never get to a point where winning is so expected that it's no longer exciting.

3. Insufficient knowledge to comment.

4. Insufficient knowledge to comment.

5. Yawn. Were you not elated whenever Denver got trampled in the playoffs this year?

6. According to several KU fans, nothing matters outside of the tournament. You're expected to do well, and then you lose to teams that are not considered to be very good. Are you not disappointed when that happens?

(I'm just picking on you with #6.)

luv 02-16-2012 02:17 PM

FTR, I think Braincase's post was taken the wrong way. Of course, to not think so would be to believe that he was complimenting the Tigers on their play, which is difficult for people to do, since so many KU fans have been in here to "educate" MU fans on what it means to be good or the proper way to act when we win. This is evidenced by the fact that two of the top four posters in this thread are KU fans.

Anyway, if it was a compliment, then thank you, Braincase. If not, then I don't see what going on the defensive is all about.

Frazod 02-16-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8378031)
FTR, I think Braincase's post was taken the wrong way. Of course, to not think so would be to believe that he was complimenting the Tigers on their play, which is difficult for people to do, since so many KU fans have been in here to "educate" MU fans on what it means to be good or the proper way to act when we win. This is evidenced by the fact that two of the top four posters in this thread are KU fans.

Anyway, if it was a compliment, then thank you, Braincase. If not, then I don't see what going on the defensive is all about.

Don't worry, he's not getting banned.

Braincase 02-16-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 8378031)
FTR, I think Braincase's post was taken the wrong way. Of course, to not think so would be to believe that he was complimenting the Tigers on their play, which is difficult for people to do, since so many KU fans have been in here to "educate" MU fans on what it means to be good or the proper way to act when we win. This is evidenced by the fact that two of the top four posters in this thread are KU fans.

Anyway, if it was a compliment, then thank you, Braincase. If not, then I don't see what going on the defensive is all about.

Thanks, luv. I've come to accept that because I'm a Jayhawk fan, in the eyes of some I will always be a pompous, sanctimonius prick that teaches kids to elbow other kids in the jaw as a matter of course. Everybody is entitled to think what they want, and distill what they want from my posts. Perception becomes reality. I'm not too worried about it.

Bearcat 02-16-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8378022)
1. I'm not sure how that's bad. Is it not true?

2. Basketball is a secondary sport. I'd rather be better in football, but I wouldn't say that I don't care about basketball. It's fun to root for a team that's winning. I hope I never get to a point where winning is so expected that it's no longer exciting.

3. Insufficient knowledge to comment.

4. Insufficient knowledge to comment.

5. Yawn. Were you not elated whenever Denver got trampled in the playoffs this year?

6. According to several KU fans, nothing matters outside of the tournament. You're expected to do well, and then you lose to teams that are not considered to be very good. Are you not disappointed when that happens?

(I'm just picking on you with #6.)

Heh, everything I posted was an opinion of one or very few Missouri fans, which I don't attribute to the fan base at all, so there's really no reason to defend any of it. It's like if one or a few KU fans here said they don't care about the rivalry, there would be no reason for MU fans to mock it every time a KU fan posts anything remotely related to MU... err.

But, if you were really looking for answers.... #1 is not even close to being true (the original comment was something along the lines of "both sports have consistently ended the season in the top 25 over the past decade"... but, it's happened like 4 or 5 times combined).

#5 - No, it was expected. And even when it's not expected (see 2006, when the Chiefs needed the Broncos to lose at home to the lowly 49ers on the last day of the season), it's a great moment, but nothing more. Honestly, when that kind of stuff happens (such as MU losing to Iowa in the Insight Bowl), I'm more surprised than anything... and that's probably the first time I've mentioned that loss since it happened. I'm not saying it's wrong to be happy when a rival loses, it's just not something I get overly excited about or hang my hat on or buy t-shirts over.

#6 - I don't know who those KU fans would be, and I completely disagree that it's all that matters. Of course there's disappointment in those years, but the point was that the past 25 years hasn't solely been about one NC and a bunch of disappointment. They've played to their seed several times, but all of that gets overshadowed by a couple of years when KU was overrated and a couple of other big upsets.

Bearcat 02-16-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 8378031)
FTR, I think Braincase's post was taken the wrong way. Of course, to not think so would be to believe that he was complimenting the Tigers on their play, which is difficult for people to do, since so many KU fans have been in here to "educate" MU fans on what it means to be good or the proper way to act when we win. This is evidenced by the fact that two of the top four posters in this thread are KU fans.

Anyway, if it was a compliment, then thank you, Braincase. If not, then I don't see what going on the defensive is all about.

:spock:

Pitt Gorilla 02-16-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8378071)
Heh, everything I posted was an opinion of one or very few Missouri fans, which I don't attribute to the fan base at all, so there's really no reason to defend any of it. It's like if one or a few KU fans here said they don't care about the rivalry, there would be no reason for MU fans to mock it every time a KU fan posts anything remotely related to MU... err.

But, if you were really looking for answers.... #1 is not even close to being true (the original comment was something along the lines of "both sports have consistently ended the season in the top 25 over the past decade"... but, it's happened like 4 or 5 times combined).

#5 - No, it was expected. And even when it's not expected (see 2006, when the Chiefs needed the Broncos to lose at home to the lowly 49ers on the last day of the season), it's a great moment, but nothing more. Honestly, when that kind of stuff happens (such as MU losing to Iowa in the Insight Bowl), I'm more surprised than anything... and that's probably the first time I've mentioned that loss since it happened. I'm not saying it's wrong to be happy when a rival loses, it's just not something I get overly excited about or hang my hat on or buy t-shirts over.

#6 - I don't know who those KU fans would be, and I completely disagree that it's all that matters. Of course there's disappointment in those years, but the point was that the past 25 years hasn't solely been about one NC and a bunch of disappointment. They've played to their seed several times, but all of that gets overshadowed by a couple of years when KU was overrated and a couple of other big upsets.

Why are you posting all of this in an MU thread?

Bearcat 02-16-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8378084)
Why are you posting all of this in an MU thread?

Is it really that hard to follow? It only goes back like 20 posts. People were talking about KU, I joined in on the fun, luv responded to me, I responded to her, and here we are.

I'm not making a flowchart.

luv 02-16-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8378084)
Why are you posting all of this in an MU thread?

He's simply responding to me. That's not even the best example of a "WTF is this doing in here?" post. There was a moment a night or two (hell, maybe three) ago where I thought I accidentally clicked on the KU repository thread.

FishingRod 02-16-2012 03:08 PM

KU fan posting here because??? I can’t leave work for another 2 hours?

Uh nice game, MU played very well. For the MU fans complaining that KU was getting all the calls VS KSU MU again got the calls in excess of 2-1 in their favor last night and guess what? Like 99 % of the time it didn’t have squat to do with who won the game. While either team certainly could stumble there is no reason for either KU or MU to lose another conference game except the one yet to be played in Lawrence. I am hoping for a KU win (ok I want “To crush MU, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women.) and then I hope to see them play one more time in the Big 12 tournament. I am going to miss this.

smittysbar 02-16-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishingRod (Post 8378167)
KU fan posting here because??? I can’t leave work for another 2 hours?

Uh nice game, MU played very well. For the MU fans complaining that KU was getting all the calls VS KSU MU again got the calls in excess of 2-1 in their favor last night and guess what? Like 99 % of the time it didn’t have squat to do with who won the game. While either team certainly could stumble there is no reason for either KU or MU to lose another conference game except the one yet to be played in Lawrence. I am hoping for a KU win (ok I want “To crush MU, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women.) and then I hope to see them play one more time in the Big 12 tournament. I am going to miss this.

You saw calls that were missed?

Dartgod 02-16-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8378232)
You saw calls that were missed?

Rod's cool. He's definitely not a troll. Plus he has the added bonus of being married to a Mizzou fan.

:evil:

Pasta Little Brioni 02-16-2012 04:23 PM

OSU shot 46 percent last night....back to the drawing board on D I guess :whackit:

kcchiefsus 02-16-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8378290)
OSU shot 46 percent last night....back to the drawing board on D I guess :whackit:

I guarantee that number was lower before the final 6-7 minutes when Missouri put in several walkons.

KC_Connection 02-16-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8377916)
My take so far
Home cookin' cost KU the game
KCC is still a cry baby
We are in no way the better team despite ranking, record, and H2H
We don't care about BB
Even more KU does not care about MU
Players need more fouls (works in Jr. high girls BB)
In no way shape or form should we get any excitement out of our team, we need to act like we have been there.
And we are going to get stomped at AFH

What the **** did I do?

Mr. Flopnuts 02-16-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8378443)
What the **** did I do?

Quit ****ing crying about it. :D

stonedstooge 02-16-2012 07:55 PM

Keitzman had a caller today complain about the number of fouls on Missouri last night. K.'s sidekick made the comment that the number indicates that Missouri was not trying to defend hard enough. Being lazy

Braincase 02-16-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8378654)
Keitzman had a caller today complain about the number of fouls on Missouri last night. K.'s sidekick made the comment that the number indicates that Missouri was not trying to defend hard enough. Being lazy

Wasn't me.

pkane 02-16-2012 09:02 PM

Still a stupid theory.

O.city 02-16-2012 09:09 PM

Missouri's perimeter defense last night was as good as anyone in the nation.

stonedstooge 02-16-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8378788)
Missouri's perimeter defense last night was as good as anyone in the nation.

Did you see the game as not being officiated correctly?

O.city 02-16-2012 09:18 PM

No, why?


MU's guards were great on defense last night. They kept OSU pushed out away from the 3 point line.

Their defense played great.

stonedstooge 02-16-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8378806)
No, why?


MU's guards were great on defense last night. They kept OSU pushed out away from the 3 point line.

Their defense played great.

Just was strange people bringing it up. It never crossed my mind during the game

pkane 02-16-2012 09:27 PM

It was a blow out and there was no reason to foul. Why stop the clock when they were having their way with them. Just a solid game all around for MU

smittysbar 02-16-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8378443)
What the **** did I do?

:evil: giving you some shit.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...55#post5498255

KC_Connection 02-16-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8378976)

Hey, I can't be held accountable for something I posted three years ago to the day! Besides, it's Whitlock that originally thought the 2008 Missouri football team was a fraud. I just thought Daniel was a choker.

Dr. Gigglepants 02-17-2012 09:34 AM

LOL! Can't do it on my phone, someone please post a link to the article titled Charting the Fouls. It's on the front page of kansascity.com right now. Hilarity should ensue.
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Imon Yourside 02-17-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 8379489)
LOL! Can't do it on my phone, someone please post a link to the article titled Charting the Fouls. It's on the front page of kansascity.com right now. Hilarity should ensue.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yes we know Missouri gets all the calls. /validated

It's over here in the cool kids thread. ;)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...43389&page=277

Pants 02-17-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8377830)
Gave up more than 64 points.

Pants assures me that the defense, therefore, must've been dogshit.

I'm learning a lot from the Beakers these days.

LMAO

Don't be so hurt, man. Your defense is ranked #60 in the country per Kenpom. I wasn't trying to talk shit when I brought that fact up a few days ago, I was simply trying to explain to ezbait how you guys got manhandled by K-State while we took care of business, that's all.

Dr. Gigglepants 02-17-2012 10:03 AM

I figured since the entire internet didn't explode this morning it hadn't been posted yet. If anything was validated its obviously how lazy Mizzou is on D.
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Imon Yourside 02-17-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 8379545)
I figured since the entire internet didn't explode this morning it hadn't been posted yet. If anything was validated its obviously how lazy Mizzou is on D.
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They're quick and a great shooting team but lack size and their defense suffers from old Roy wont too.

beer bacon 02-17-2012 10:23 AM

Foul differential home vs away

MU +7.14
KU +7.29

KU still has a bigger home court advantage this season.

Texas has the biggest home court advantage at +8.64.


All of this is pretty meaningless without knowing how many foul worthy plays these teams make at home. If K-State is committing 45 foul worthy plays at home and getting called for 19, then that is a bigger advantage than a school that is committing 25 and getting called for 15.

FishingRod 02-17-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 8378232)
You saw calls that were missed?

I don’t think I have ever watched a game where quite a few calls were not missed. Much like if we follow the letter of the rules there would be a holding call on virtually every play in football. I’m just messing with those that think KU is winning games due to some officiating conspiracy. I do find the Foul differential interesting on the home vs. road posed by Beer Bacon. Likewisey one would think due to the difference in preference for inside vs. outside scoring that KU would have been fouled substantially more often than MU over the course of the season but, I don’t care enough to take the time to add them up.

stonedstooge 02-17-2012 12:04 PM

Beaker fans lining up their excuses already

Saul Good 02-17-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishingRod (Post 8379734)
I don’t think I have ever watched a game where quite a few calls were not missed. Much like if we follow the letter of the rules there would be a holding call on virtually every play in football. I’m just messing with those that think KU is winning games due to some officiating conspiracy. I do find the Foul differential interesting on the home vs. road posed by Beer Bacon. Likewisey one would think due to the difference in preference for inside vs. outside scoring that KU would have been fouled substantially more often than MU over the course of the season but, I don’t care enough to take the time to add them up.

Mizzou draws a lot of charges, so it might be pretty close. I would guess that Kansas draws more fouls on offense, but Mizzou closes the gap by drawing fouls on defense.

kepp 02-17-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8379513)
Yes we know Missouri gets all the calls. /validated

It's over here in the cool kids thread. ;)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...43389&page=277

Oh, cool. Another thing I just learned from that thread is that the ku/MU rivalry isn't actually a rivalry. Interesting.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 8379761)
Oh, cool. Another thing I just learned from that thread is that the ku/MU rivalry isn't actually a rivalry. Interesting.

Tickets for the last game at AFH against a non-rival start at $600.

mnchiefsguy 02-17-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 8379761)
Oh, cool. Another thing I just learned from that thread is that the ku/MU rivalry isn't actually a rivalry. Interesting.

KU is such a dominant power that they have no earthly rivals. They merely come down from the mountaintop to indulge mere mortals by playing them. KU's rivals are the gods of basketball themselves.

mnchiefsguy 02-17-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8379769)
Tickets for the last game at AFH against a non-rival start at $600.

But KU does not care. Since Mizzou is the obsessed team, it will be interesting to see if more KU fans don't sell off their tickets for profit....after all, this game means nothing to them.

Imon Yourside 02-17-2012 12:24 PM

LMAO

Pants 02-17-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 8379761)
Oh, cool. Another thing I just learned from that thread is that the ku/MU rivalry isn't actually a rivalry. Interesting.

It's a school rivalry for sure. As far as sports go, basketball is about the opposite of a rivalry, while football is the definition of one.

Pants 02-17-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8379772)
KU is such a dominant power that they have no earthly rivals. They merely come down from the mountaintop to indulge mere mortals by playing them. KU's rivals are the gods of basketball themselves.

Butthurt as hell, man.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379829)
It's a school rivalry for sure. As far as sports go, basketball is about the opposite of a rivalry, while football is the definition of one.

Interesting considering that Kansas has never finished ahead of Mizzou in Big XII football. Can the opposite be said about basketball?

Pants 02-17-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8379859)
Interesting considering that Kansas has never finished ahead of Mizzou in Big XII football. Can the opposite be said about basketball?

Is that how rivalries are defined? We just have a different definition, I think. Can you please give me a clear definition of what you think a rivalry is? Is it the number of higher conference standings? I'm honestly curious.

Dartgod 02-17-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379829)
It's a school rivalry for sure. As far as sports go, basketball is about the opposite of a rivalry, while football is the definition of one.

Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379865)
Is that how rivalries are defined? We just have a different definition, I think. Can you please give me a clear definition of what you think a rivalry is? Is it the number of higher conference standings? I'm honestly curious.

I think it's a rivalry in both sports. Saying otherwise is stupid.

The most expensive ticket to AFH for a conference game every year is the Mizzou game, and vice versa. Not sure how you can say football is a bigger rivalry when KU brought 11 fans to the last game (ever) between the two teams.

Pants 02-17-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8379874)
Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

56-55-9 is a rivalry.
171-95 is ownership.

:shrug:

DeezNutz 02-17-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8379874)
Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

Series records.

So glad to be leaving the Big XII.

mnchiefsguy 02-17-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379830)
Butthurt as hell, man.

Sarcasm, man.

Pablo 02-17-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379886)
56-55-9 is a rivalry.
171-95 is ownership.

:shrug:

Those numbers are arrogant.

Pants 02-17-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8379909)
Sarcasm, man.

You were sarcastically being sarcastic? Whoa... my mind is blown.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 04:03 PM

National championship lines are out.

Kentucky is the favorite at 2:1

Ohio State is next at 5:1

Mizzou, Kansas, Carolina, and Syracuse are all 8:1

Pants 02-17-2012 04:05 PM

2:1? Holy shit.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8380260)
2:1? Holy shit.

Your response shows what a gimmick the tourney really is. The best team in the country has a 50-50 shot at winning the title, and that seems ridiculously high.

I'd bet against them winning it.

Let's say Kentucky has a 100% chance of winning in the first and second rounds and a 90% chance of winning each game until the final four and an 80% chance each game after that (all preposterously high). They would still be only slightly better than a coin flip to win the whole thing.

If you give them only 99% in the first round and 98% in the second, it's 50%.

KC_Connection 02-17-2012 04:31 PM

Yeah, that's way too high for UK. They're the best team in the NCAA, but their chances of winning will be pretty much equivalent to any other #1 seed. The tournament equalizes things.

O.city 02-17-2012 04:39 PM

A single elimination tournament will seldom give you the best overall team as the winner, when you have to win what 6 games in a row?

It happens but not very often. Hell I'd argue that the NFL doesn't give you the two best teams in the Final.

MLB and the NBA, having best of series, IMO are the best way to get a true champion.

In all honesty the BCS does a pretty damn good job of giving us the 2 best teams over a 4 month stretch.


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