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It's akin to when Jesse Jackson goes on a rant about racism.

Don't try to talk calm and rational, it just makes things worse. It's like trying to teach a chimp to speak Latin. Just shake your head and move along like everyone else.

Yeah I agree with some of this actually.

I don't agree that all women are like this, but it seems like more of them are than should be. Half of my co-workers are pussy whipped and some of them are so bad it's embarrassing to the rest of us to witness at company parties. I'm working on the assumption that this didn't used to be such a common thing. Movies and TV are making it seem like modern wives are really just extended mothers trying to keep their idiot husbands from ruining things constantly.

I posted a big rant about it when Knocked Up came out.

Any man who defends a woman when faced with these claims is just that.

It's akin to stockholm syndrome.

I feel bad for men nowadays. I really do. It seems like you either find women who believe one of the two extremes:

1. Women stay at home, take care of the house and children, and let the men run the house.

2. Women are completely equal. I can work the same jobs, I can open my own doors, and I control my own finances.

It's hard for a guy to know which type of woman they're dealing with at first. A guy who is more traditional looks for type one and butts heads with type two. Guys who are more "modern" like type two and view type one as money-grubbing and lazy.

Personally, I'd have to say I'm more of a type one, although I'm not so much so that I see it as wrong for women to work or help support the family by bringing in more income. IMO, it should be a fine balance. I love it when guys open doors for me, make decisions (considering my input), etc, but I don't expect them to feel like they have to support me. I hate women who feel like they can't live without a man. Both men and women need partners who compliment them, not complete them.

On another hand, it can be nearly as hard on a woman. A woman who shows too much independence is a bitch, while a woman who views gender roles traditionally is a money grubber. Often, it's the same guys that complain about both. Make up your damned minds!

As women, we cant win. but, Im sure men feel the same. And rightfully so, on both accounts.

Its not about men or women, its about people and how they choose to act.

As women, we are a little crazy. we cant help it, its called estrogen and Progesterone. It makes us nuts. The worse part, Ive noticed anyways, when you are younger, you dont know all the tell tell signs that your are 'On the rag" until it happens. As we, or I get older, Im better at recognizing thats its happening and can get a handle on it, but the rub is, it (the hormonal imbalances) get worse as we get older. Sucks.

Men, can be just as crazy, and moody, they just dont have the definte proof of their imbalances like women do.

As far, as roles in relationships, men and women both can be complete assholes and leave their partner in their biggest time of need. Its not just women leaving their husbands because they got canned from their Pizza delivering gigs. What about examples like John edwards leaving his wife with cancer,, or newt gingrich doing exactly same thing? How about Tony hawke leaving his wife for his best friends wife? Those examples are pretty ****ed up of what people can do.

Yes, as women we have what I call the Pussy Platinum card, and our credit limit can be extended wayyy to often. We can get things that we dont deserve because of the power of the pussy. But men have the Penis Platinum card as well and have recieved the same, yet different priviledges because of the power of the penis, like control of the planet for instance..lmao.

Apparently my Mrs doesn't realize this rule.......of course it may also be that this is just another case where you talk about things that you have no real knowledge of.

Agree on all counts. It's just a matter of finding someone who can tolerate your craziness as much as you can tolerate theirs. :)

Women are only good for one thing, and with 90% of them, that stops when you marry them. :D

goat is just trolling, you guys.

All of this.

Equal is a ideological term IMO. In every relationship I know and can tell you who is leading and alpha. I think the vast majority of women want their men in that role whether they will admit it or not. It's been encoded into their DNA over thousands of years. It in no way means they can't do thins on their own either. It just means that most women would prefer their mate act in an alpha/protector roll. Once again I know this is very politically incorrect. Even women I know who want the alpha role and do a great job of it feal frustration for their mate and it shows. My 2 cents.

Here is the kicker, women who actually see this for what it is and go with it I look at as being stronger and more intelligent. I in no way feal this makes them less than equal as they can walk away from the relationship at any time.

roll? LOL

You're a dumbass.