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vailpass 01-05-2012 04:16 PM
LMAO at people taking Rainman's bait seriously.

HemiEd 01-05-2012 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8266794)
the Guardian and Hemied make some really good points. I didn't realize the extent to which the defense was carrying those Broncos teams.
Elway was "the best QB to never win a SB" until Shanahan came up with the solution, cooking spray.

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8266816)
LMAO at people taking Rainman's bait seriously.
He is just stating facts.

TheGuardian 01-05-2012 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 8266803)
Go ahead and list the Hall of Fame RBs, WRs, and OL he played with. Heck list the Pro Bowl players he played with on offense...you know that popularity contest they hold every year. Now list the All Pros he played with. All the other QBs he is compared with had vastly superior talent surrounding them.
I think you missed the part where I was talking about how he carried the TEAM. The defenses of those playoff years more than held up their end in helping to get that team to the post season.

vailpass 01-05-2012 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8266845)
Elway was "the best QB to never win a SB" until Shanahan came up with the solution, cooking spray.



He is just stating facts.
I'm not going to ask where you got that picture Ed. :)

vailpass 01-05-2012 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8266765)
First off. Elway was NEVER EVER as good as Denver fans, or even a lot of KC fans, think or remember.

There are a few factors here.

One, the AFC was absolutely garbage for most of the 80's. Elway was the best of a shitty bunch. Big ****in deal. He got decimated in the three super bowls he played in before Shanahan came along and they cheated the cap and played borderline rule breaking schemes.

If Elway is going to be given all the credit for carrying those shit teams, then he'll take all the blame for getting his shit pushed in in those 3 super bowls. You can't have it both ways.

The fact is, Elway was not quite as good as Jim Kelly. If the Bills had won 2 or 3 of those SB's no one would really be having that discussion.

The years they went to the playoffs and super bowls, Denver generally had good defenses. Let's not kid ourselves.

The years they went to the playoffs before Rayboy arrived, when Elway was supposedly carrying that team the defense was ranked (in terms of points allowed....)


83 - 9th
84 - 2nd
86 - 15th
87 - 7th
89 - 1st
91- 3rd
93 - 10th

Let's stop ****ing about like Elway carried some god damn team. 6 of the 7 seasons they went to the playoffs Denver fielded a top 10 defense. Hell, three of those seasons they were top 3!

Elway built a legacy based on some 4th quarter comebacks. But the guy never carried a god damn team. It's stupid. Denver fans have their heads up their asses when it comes to Elway.
The dumb that oozes out of this post hurts us all. Posts like this are why we can't have nice things.

RNR 01-05-2012 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8266859)
I think you missed the part where I was talking about how he carried the TEAM. The defenses of those playoff years more than held up their end in helping to get that team to the post season.
So go ahead and list the Hall of Fame, Pro Bowl, and All Pro players on the defenses you speak of. You either did not get the chance to watch him due to age or you are a stats guy. Either way we will have to agree to disagree.

ChiefsCountry 01-05-2012 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8266765)
First off. Elway was NEVER EVER as good as Denver fans, or even a lot of KC fans, think or remember.

There are a few factors here.

One, the AFC was absolutely garbage for most of the 80's. Elway was the best of a shitty bunch. Big ****in deal. He got decimated in the three super bowls he played in before Shanahan came along and they cheated the cap and played borderline rule breaking schemes.

If Elway is going to be given all the credit for carrying those shit teams, then he'll take all the blame for getting his shit pushed in in those 3 super bowls. You can't have it both ways.

The fact is, Elway was not quite as good as Jim Kelly. If the Bills had won 2 or 3 of those SB's no one would really be having that discussion.

The years they went to the playoffs and super bowls, Denver generally had good defenses. Let's not kid ourselves.

The years they went to the playoffs before Rayboy arrived, when Elway was supposedly carrying that team the defense was ranked (in terms of points allowed....)


83 - 9th
84 - 2nd
86 - 15th
87 - 7th
89 - 1st
91- 3rd
93 - 10th

Let's stop ****ing about like Elway carried some god damn team. 6 of the 7 seasons they went to the playoffs Denver fielded a top 10 defense. Hell, three of those seasons they were top 3!

Elway built a legacy based on some 4th quarter comebacks. But the guy never carried a god damn team. It's stupid. Denver fans have their heads up their asses when it comes to Elway.
Wow you really are a ****ing idiot.

Backwards Masking 01-05-2012 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8266887)
Wow you really are a ****ing idiot.
you're supposedly a Chiefs Fan.... yet you're calling another Chiefs Fan an Idiot for telling the truth about Horseface being Overrated on a Chiefs message board.

not sure you're a Chiefs Fan at all now...

vailpass 01-05-2012 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8266904)
you're supposedly a Chiefs Fan.... yet you're calling another Chiefs Fan an Idiot for telling the truth about Horseface being Overrated on a Chiefs message board.

not sure you're a Chiefs Fan at all now...
Bobby Bell, Tony Gonzalez, Will Shields, Derrick Thomas were elite football players. I'm a Bronco and I have no problem with that. You can be a 'true fan' and not be a 'true retart'.

Rain Man 01-05-2012 04:57 PM
I think the Guardian's post is very insightful. It exposes the myth that Elway carried his team, when in fact Elway was merely Matt Cassel with an ego.

vailpass 01-05-2012 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8266927)
I think the Guardian's post is very insightful. It exposes the myth that Elway carried his team, when in fact Elway was merely Matt Cassel with an ego.
I know it's forbidden but I think I love you.

RNR 01-05-2012 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8266904)
you're supposedly a Chiefs Fan.... yet you're calling another Chiefs Fan an Idiot for telling the truth about Horseface being Overrated on a Chiefs message board.

not sure you're a Chiefs Fan at all now...
What little I have read from you it is clear you are just one of those clowns who look to get a reaction from people or you are just an idiot. God damn I wish gochiefs would start a school on how to troll a site. He has put on a clinic on how to troll for years and you and all the other wanna be reaction posters should take lessons because all of you are amateurs. It is impossible to get angry at your feeble attempts. It is much like a child stumbling while taking its first steps. The poster you are calling out is a very solid poster. Do me a favor and search gochiefs posts and learn something and get back to us later.

Backwards Masking 01-05-2012 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 8266942)
you and all the other wanna be reaction posters should take lessons because all of you are amateurs. It is impossible to get angry at your feeble attempts. It is much like a child stumbling while taking its first steps. The poster you are calling out is a very solid poster. .
I wasnt be a troll attempting to get a reaction - I am a Chiefs Fan calling out another Chiefs Fans for defending Horseface, the most Overrated Scumbag Piece of Shit QB to Ever Play. If that isn't obvious you shouldnt be on this site, as a Raider Fan or Chiefs Fan.

So what if the poster has a solid history of rep and a lengthy post status? he's immune to criticism and it's ok for him to call Chiefs Fans idiots for being homers? On a CHIEFS WEBSITE?

I'd rather be shitty troll (which i'm not) than an grade a Ass Kisser Raider Fan sucking off as many people as possible on a Chiefs Board cause you were too much a pussy to make it on the oakland board.

lcarus 01-05-2012 05:12 PM
We'd all be slurping the metal dick of the Elway statue outside Arrowhead if he had played for us and won us championships.

Backwards Masking 01-05-2012 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8266921)
You can be a 'true fan' and not be a 'true retart'.
Not if you're True Fan that thinks horseface deserved to sniff Joe Montana's jock you're not.


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