Tim Tebow is John Elway

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You see, there are so many similarities between these 2 quarterbacks.

1. Both were extremely hyped college quarterbacks.
2. They both like to run around the field.
3. They both have lots of heart.
4. They both have championship rings.

and the real kicker:

5. John Elway, in his second season, lost to the Steelers in the wildcard playoff game at home.
6. Tim Tebow, in his second season, lost to the Steelers in the wildcard playoff game at home.

It's pretty eery

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[Otter]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Why?

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Only difference is that Elway actually was a good QB.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Guru

Only difference is that Elway actually was a good QB.

Not at first in the NFL. He's was down right terrible. But that thrird season it really picked up for him. Few QB's walk into the league and make an impact at the QB position to the point of deep playoff wins. I can only think of 2 Big Ben and Marino.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not at first in the NFL. He's was down right terrible. But that thrird season it really picked up for him. Few QB's walk into the league and make an impact at the QB position to the point of deep playoff wins. I can only think of 2 Big Ben and Marino.

A lot of it also was the cast around him and the style of offense that Reeves ran... Reeves wasn't near as conservative as Fox, but Reeves wasn't a pass happy oriented type of coach.

I do like to read comments about how they never won a title until Shanahan came in and it was all Davis. There aren't many QBs out there that have taken teams with a cast of characters like Denver had and won a lot of SBs. They had good teams, but they ere never dominant on the ground game. I mean, his best WRs were the Three Amigos - good, but they weren't the Marks brothers.

And, it's always interesting to see when fans like to use (or ignore) stats in favor of the side of the debate they're hammering.

Under Reeves:
9-7
13-3
11-5
11-5
10-4
8-8
11-5
5-11
12-4
8-8

Under Wade Phillips:
9-7
7-9

Under Shanahan:
8-8
13-3
12-4
14-2

16 Seasons ... 2 were 8-8 and 2 were under .500 ... 12 were 9+ wins

14-8 Postseason Record
5 SB appearances with 2 wins

Yes, they never dominated and won titles until Shanahan put a "team" around him... but the guy certainly didn't spare everyone to death in the years before Shanahan.

Elway retired as the QB with the most wins... bottom line, he was great.

Marino did great things in 1984... and that was THE ONLY season in which his teams won more than 1 playoff game... so he doesn't really fit your comment in bold above. Marino and his teams, from 1985 through 1999 never won more than 1 playoff game in a single season.

Big Ben ... yes, he fits - but you can't compare the team he had around him to what Dan or John had early in their careers.

[ROYC75]

If that peckerhead turns into an Elway we are going to track you down.

Now with that said, Tebow an Elway ? That will take a miracle of major proportions.

Tebow as a passing QB is horrible right now and will probably be forever.

[chiefs2012]

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You are so stupid.

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[Rain Man]

They're both bad quarterbacks.

They both get more credit than they deserve for their team's wins.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

They're both bad quarterbacks.

They both get more credit than they deserve for their team's wins.

people get so pissed when you say it but it's SO true :

Horseface never won shit until The Rat demoted him to the Number Two Option and made Terrell Davis the Number One Option.

deal with it Cheating Donkey homers

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

people get so pissed when you say it but it's SO true :

Horseface never won shit until The Rat demoted him to the Number Two Option and made Terrell Davis the Number One Option.

deal with it Cheating Donkey homers

For the first ten years of the guy's career - TEN YEARS - he only had one year with a QB rating over 80, and it was 83.4. His average season was 3,021 yards with 16 TDs and 16 Ints.

How happy would we be if we drafted a QB with the #1 pick and he had those statistics for a full decade?

As a comparison, Elway's career rating is 79.9, with 3021 yards, 16 TDs and 16 Ints. During his 11 years in Philly, Donovan McNabb's rating was 85.6. He averaged 3,390 yards, 20 TDs, and 9 Ints. Which guy would you rather have?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

For the first ten years of the guy's career - TEN YEARS - he only had one year with a QB rating over 80, and it was 83.4. His average season was 3,021 yards with 16 TDs and 16 Ints.

How happy would we be if we drafted a QB with the #1 pick and he had those statistics for a full decade?

As a comparison, Elway's career rating is 79.9, with 3021 yards, 16 TDs and 16 Ints. During his 11 years in Philly, Donovan McNabb's rating was 85.6. He averaged 3,390 yards, 20 TDs, and 9 Ints. Which guy would you rather have?

I'm not defending Denver's favorite equine, but, out of curiosity, how did Elway's numbers measure up against other quarterbacks of the era?