ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)

- Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)

- -

Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=282755)

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10536466)

So who was responsible for a NINE WIN swing

My answer: the schedule, the absence of Romeo Crennel and staff, and a 180-degree shift in on-field luck from 2012 (turnovers going our way, primarily) much of which I believe can be attributed to the loss of Cassel and/or the addition of Smith.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10536478)

See, this looks like someone downplaying Smith's contribution to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10536253)

Well, many would like to see the Chiefs build through the draft, and I guess I'm one who agrees with that. It might not be pretty at first, but I'm willing to let this front office do their thing.

I agree with this....its not exciting for fans but i like and respect the approach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10536344)

I think it's more about being upset because the chiefs haven't done exactly what people want. It happens every year, usually more with the draft. "I want (insert player name) but they didn't do that so I deem this (draft/free agency period/off-season) a complete failure."

I do it, too. I thought (and still think) Andy Reid was the wrong hire. I've been pretty vocal about that. They identified what they believed was the best available short and long term option at quarterback, which is something I should agree with philosophically, but I didn't like Alex Smith, so I wasn't happy there either. I was never really a dick about it but I wanted them to give Geno Smith a look. Which I believe they never did - not for a second. And if not him, then I would have gone Austin or Patterson. Fisher was a move I will never, ever like, short of the guy making the Hall.

Is that fair? Probably not, but that's the way it is. That's the way fans are. We aren't rational no matter how much we try to cloak our arguments in logic and stats. We believe that we know how things should be done, better than anyone else, be it owners or gms or other fans, and that's every bit as true for those of us who think the chiefs should never be questioned and everybody who does is an idiot as is it for the ones who thinks they're incompetent clowns and anybody who approves is a homer.

At the end of the day this is mostly emotion and we're mostly throwing tantrums because we didn't get the toys we want, or we're bitching out people who disagree with us, or we're slapping people on the back and hailing them as geniuses if they say something we actually like.

Pretty simple really. It's the internet and that's how things are done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 10536414)

Wow, keg. Just wow.

This is the greatest post in the history of Chiefs Planet. Absolutely brilliant!!! I know I am rarely serious and always clowning around, but not this time.

Brutality meets honesty inside a person big enough to type it outloud.

Beautiful.

Dinny

Oh, the irony...

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10536484)

See, this looks like someone downplaying Smith's contribution to me.

I actually left the most important part off the list: the defense.

Which I'm sure sounds crazy now, but the defense was essentially the main reason they started 9-0, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the team struggled to win the second that the defense began having issues.

I do think Smith was a dramatic improvement from Cassel, but I also believe that his contribution was more about what he didn't do (namely turn the ball over) that it was about what he did. Which is important, no question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10536487)

Oh, the irony...

LMAO

a team should do both - FA and Draft for building a roster, plain and simple - this shouldn't be such a mental hurdle for these execs - it's simple mathematics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10536501)

a team should do both - FA and Draft for building a roster, plain and simple - this shouldn't be such a mental hurdle for these execs - it's simple mathematics.

:clap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10536498)

LMAO

I'm also pretty sure he called you fat when he said, "Brutality meets honesty inside a person big enough to type it outloud."

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10536504)

I'm also pretty sure he called you fat when he said, "Brutality meets honesty inside a person big enough to type it outloud."

ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10536501)

a team should do both - FA and Draft for building a roster, plain and simple - this shouldn't be such a mental hurdle for these execs - it's simple mathematics.

Absolutely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10536470)

I don't really care which approach they use. I would like to see them pick one and commit to it.

I don't think it's that much different but as a fan I was hoping for a more aggressive approach this year. It ain't happening. Last year they needed a QB and they did what they had to do to get the best one available. IMO that wasn't done with a win now mentality as much as we just had to get a QB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10536511)

IMO that wasn't done with a win now mentality as much as we just had to get a QB.

6 of one, 1 half dozen of the other. Either way, you're talking about a short term process.

Of course, Alex Smith could very well be (IMO most likely is) part of the long-term solution as well.

That's not bad. At all. But it's also absolutely NOT what Ted Thompson would do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10536504)

I'm also pretty sure he called you fat when he said, "Brutality meets honesty inside a person big enough to type it outloud."

Well, I am fat, so I can't fault him there.

Green Bay and KC are both small market teams.

Building a roster through the draft is a wise strategy since they cant compete in recruiting FA compared to a larger market team (which can offer incentives outside the confines of the salary cap).