CHIEFS PLAYERS RANK AMONG LEAGUE LEADERS IN NFL EUROPE
 

CHIEFS PLAYERS RANK AMONG LEAGUE LEADERS IN NFL EUROPE
May 05, 2005, 4:14:36 AM



The Chiefs hosted a rookie camp last weekend to gain a glimpse of potential future performers for Kansas City. While watching tapes of the activity at the practice facility, the coaches also found time to view four NFL Europe games that featured Chiefs in leading roles. Kansas City allocated 13 players to NFL Europe this spring as they continue to use the league to develop future players. Included in that group are four players who rank among the league leaders.



RB McKenzie Smith has played in five games (three starts) for Amsterdam, splitting time with Tennessee RB Jarrett Payton. Smith ranks second in the league with 68 carries for 355 yards (5.2 avg.) with two scores. He carried the ball 17 times for 133 yards (7.8 avg.) with a 56-yard touchdown run vs. Berlin (4/16). Smith has accumulated 390 total yards from scrimmage in 2005, ranking third in the league.

A quick look at the Admirals defensive sheet shows yet another Chiefs player at the top of the page. S Scott Connot has started all five games at safety for Amsterdam, leading the club with 32 tackles (28 solo) and four passes defensed. He led the club with seven tackles, one pass defensed and a fumble recovery last week at Berlin (4/30).

“He is making plays and tackling very well,” commented Kansas City defensive backs coach Peter Giunta. “He is making plays on deep balls. I want to see him get his hands on a few more interceptions. He is making very good progress.”

WR Jeris McIntyre has seen duty in five games (one start) for the Rhein Fire, catching 13 passes for 294 yards (22.6 avg.) with a touchdown. He leads the league with a 22.6 yards per catch average and stands third in the league with 294 receiving yards. McIntyre has also returned five kickoffs for 89 yards (17.8 avg.) for the Fire. He caught six passes for a league-high 154 yards (25.7 avg.) at Hamburg (4/16).

The Berlin Thunder are first in the league standings with a 4-1 record thanks in large part to Kansas City LB Rich Scanlon. He is pacing the squad the 47 tackles (35 solo), two passes defensed and an interception for 49 yards. The Syracuse product continued his dominance last week, posting a team-high 15 tackles vs. Amsterdam (4/30).

NFL Europe League clubs play a 10-game regular season schedule in 2005. The top two teams in the standings will play for the league championship in World Bowl XIII, Saturday, June 11th at LTU Arena in Düsseldorf, Germany.

For Kansas City, the NFLEL has served as a springboard to NFL success for a number of players, including Pro Bowlers WR Dante Hall (Scotland, 2001), LB Gary Stills (Frankfurt, 2001) and G Brian Waters (Berlin, 2000), as well as impact players such as LB Mike Maslowski (Barcelona, 1999).

Well, it is nice that we have some talent actually playing well over there, it seemed for a while there most of the players we sent were not even making the squad.

"The Berlin Thunder are first in the league standings with a 4-1 record thanks in large part to Kansas City LB Rich Scanlon. He is pacing the squad the 47 tackles (35 solo), two passes defensed and an interception for 49 yards. The Syracuse product continued his dominance last week, posting a team-high 15 tackles vs. Amsterdam (4/30)."

Have to give credit where credit is due:thumb:

Scanlon is called D-Day in Europe....women throw their daughters at him - even from balconies - during the many parades held to honor him.

who the hell is mckenzie smith? the mans name is Jonathon.thats like the 4th time ive seen someone call him Mckenzie.

the back of the mans jersey says Jo. Smith for gods sake.

ROFL

I thought the same thing, but since it's of the Chiefs website, I figured I'd just go with it.

Gee, how's the great Eric Crouch doing? Think he brought his mom with him over there to support him through it all?

It's true.

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I mentioned that if Rich didn't lead the league in tackles, he would be top 5. All of this long before ever being sent over there and winning the starting MLB position.

It's good to see others in the league doing well. BTW, Connot is 2nd in the league ,total tackles.

It's great that Scanlon is doing well. Hopefully he can be a much needed contributor on special teams.

I don't out too much stock in it though. He's doing it against less than NFL talent, and the fact remains that someone is going to get a lot of tackles on every team in every football league in the world. Being the shiniest turd in the pile doesn't necessarily mean you're not a turd.

It's too bad NFLE doesn't keep tackles stats. I'd like to see who led the league the last few years, and how they've done in the NFL since.

That is one thing that should be improved is the special teams. Within the addition of the punter and the lb's that are going to be relegated to ST's duty, it should be greatly improved...

Maybe if you choose to ignore that Hall's "escort" now plays for the Jets.

Our JV Kansas City Chiefs team is going to kick New Englands JV team when they play in November. I can hardly wait.

Yea, the same can be said for rookies coming out of college. :rolleyes:

The guy is gaining "real world" experience on the football field- if anything, he's elevating his confidence and if he brings that confidence to KC in addition to his experience- he will then play in the NFL- maybe not as an immediate starter, but as a contributor.

These guys are below the cream of the college crop. Roll your eyes all you want, the fact remains that success in NFLE doesn't automatically translate to success in the NFL. I'm not saying He has not shot, just that I'm viewing his performance from a realistic stance. If you want to start his Hall of Fame campaign, be my guest. I'm just a little skeptical.

Especially since it's tackling. Like I said in my other post, any football league is going to have someone that leads in tackling. Someone has to make the tackles.

I think he would be able to be replaced and effectively, don't you??

You give props but then try to take them away ?

You will always have a player that leads the team in tackles as much weak defensive team will have a top 10 tackler in the league stats. If a team is on the field often, they are going to see or have many plays ran against them, thus having somebody with a high stat total.

The fact that Rich is leading the NFLE in tackles, what's even more amazing is it's in less plays per game than any other team or player.
I have always said not only does he have the ability to make tackles, he is always around the ball and in position to make plays. That starts in the head, readding the play and being in position to make a play. That kind of player will excell in the NFL if given a chance.

I expect Rich to be the backup MLB and (the all world ) Grigsby to be moved to the OLB to utilize his speed. After all, Gun wants more speed in his defense.

Yes. It's called cautious optimism.

Some people aroud here could probably stand to practice it themselves. It might help keep them from becoming the butt of jokes for making outlandish claims and predictions based on performance in a less than authentic setting.

True, but when said one does see talent that others do not and speaks of it, to back down shows a weak side. In the long run when said one is proven right the the credibility duely noted.

Remember , he who laughs last laughs the loudest ! ROFL

And that's where you are wrong. A lot of these guys are mid-to-late round draft picks and free agents who need more playing time to fine-tune a part of their game.

Scott Connot is a perfect example- his play overseas is proving he knows how to get to the ball and that translates well to the NFL.

Again- I'm not saying any of these guys are immediate starters, but they CAN be contributors....

Let's put it this way- why the ***** would the NFL teams send these guys, and pay these guys to challenge for a spot in the NFL if, by your terms- they have no chance? Seems like a lot of wasted money to me....

Bob Dole thinks you undervalue Blaylock's speed and vision.

We'll see...

The thing about scanlon is that a certain poster has run him into the ground. When reading about him in this article my thoughts were : Right on that's great.... ahhh crap we'll have to read about how he's the next coming for a month.....

To be fair to rich scanlon, people have complained about who he has played against... yet they think boomer is starting material. I would think that nfl europe is much stiffer competition than division 1aa! hopefully both will contribute to the chiefs this year :hmmm:

And to think that Rich's talent exceled against top NCAA teams does nothing for his ability to many members ? But an NCAA 1AA talented player with a firery tounge just what the Chiefs need ?

Actually, what the Chiefs <b>need</b> is more attractive cheerleaders.

This is no baby BB, speak what you mean . I have balls, do you ? If you are in fact speaking of me, say it, I could handle the critics.

Run him in the ground ? Isn't that what many here are doing without seeing his talents ?

If anybody here watches NFLEuro, how has the Texans QB Ragone looked. He is sitting behind Carr on the Texans depth chart, and has to be comming up for free agency sometime in the next couple of years I would think. I always liked him when he was at Louisville, and was wondering if he is showing much this season? Could he be a potential QBOTF candidate for the Chiefs?

IIRC we cut Connot around the time we signed Knight

I agree, the Chiefs cheerleaders are dead last in the league .... # 32

Where did I say they had no chance? You're just making sh*t up.

Maybe you should read my posts again. I never said anyone "had no chance". All I said was that I was tempering my optimism because of the quality of players he's up against. I said in my very first post that I hoped he could contirbute on special teams.

NFLE players are not of the same caliber as NFL players. Period. Therefore, IMO, production against NFLE players doesn't necessarily translate to production int the NFL.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's rare that it carries over to the NFL. Go to nfleurope.com and look at the stats leaders going back to 2001. Recognize any names? Very few. So for the last 4 years, out of all of these guys that excelled in NFLE, there is barely anyone that has succeeded in the NFL. I rest my case.

He's still showing up on the roster.

No way, clearly it was those 8-10 plays in preseason against future FedEx drivers that sold me. Like you said, it's a conspiracy that Gun and DV hate Scanlon and wont give him a shot to play so he's limited to making penalites...errr....tackles on ST.

Now you are making things up. I never said they hate him. I said he went undrafted for certain reasons and the coaches are going to play the drafted players more to evaluate their abilty. My comments were that I don't know why, I always questioned or wondered why.I said that Rich was better than Mitchell at that time during preseason.

As for you, you have always been against Rich from day 1. I expect negative things from you on this, it's a given when you speak of him.

coulda sworn we cut someone that was in NFLE when we signed some free agents this offseason.

cuz i remembered thinking about whether they player would just get the boot off his allocation team as well since we pay his salary.



:hmmm:

Im not against Rich, Im his biggest fan. That whole last preseason game he played convinced me too. When I see talent like that I just cant ignore it. He's super!

ROFL That's funny ,but really more like... :rolleyes:

Wanna try it again ?

All this petty squabbling could have been avoided if we had simply drafted Matt Jones.

Damnit Carl!

I dont know, do you have a lisp or something that I need to add to it?

Is this going to be your excuse if Grigsby winds up making Scanlon fanny -shine the bench this year?

Maybe if Rich had commited to football instead of medical school first, along with a deep draft of LB's he would have been drafted.

BTA, it would have been some other team that didn't need help at LB's like we did.

Why do you guys think he came to KC ? He had a choice of 31 other teams as well.

Bob Dole isn't sure why. Rich stopped returning Bob Dole's calls.

After going to NFLE and being the dominate defensive player to date, Hardly.

But what will your excuse be if Rich is ahead of Grigsby be ?

I didnt realize that UDFA's chose teams...I thought that teams offered contracts to UDFA's. Do they teach you these things after teaching you how to break down game film or something?

I wont really care, but something tells me that Scanlon making 3rd string LB will cause Roy to self fellate about it.

The draft was deep that year for LB's. For some reason many teams didn't take alot of LB's and Rich mentioned he was going to go to medical school to finish his degree. Both of those reasons came into the picture on draft day. His family talked him into trying out for the NFL 1st before finishing his schooling.

Players have options on which team they sign with as UDFA's.

Why do you think KC went after him ? Was it because of talent or they needed to sign TC fodder ?

They do? Did Scanlon get contract offers from all 32 teams?

I dont know why KC went after him, did Rich tell you why?

They assumed he could assist the team's medical staff on the sideline?

ROFL I had a hunch one of you clowns would chime this one in.

All 32 ? I haven't a clue on this one.

KC saw his talents and knew he could good, according to my info. Rich like the fact that KC was weak at LB's and took the chance to try out.

I think the fact that KC had the #32 defense meant he had the best possible chance to land a spot on the roster. If he had an actual 'choice' why didnt he choose NE, which was closer to home and they were going to the SB.

I think I coverd that in a previous post .......

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All 32 ? I haven't a clue on this one.

KC saw his talents and knew he could good, according to my info. Rich like the fact that KC was weak at LB's and took the chance to try out.

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Im not looking for regurgitation of speculation. If you have facts that he had multiple offers, present it.

Damn Greg, what's up with you today ? You missing comments and quotes ? Not your style, do you feel sick today ?


Posted by ROYC75 - Today at 11:42 AM
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They do? Did Scanlon get contract offers from all 32 teams?

I dont know why KC went after him, did Rich tell you why?
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All 32 ? I haven't a clue on this one.

I say bullsh*t. How did Rich know we were weak at LB? The Chiefs FO didn't even know at the time they signed Scanlon. All indications last spring were that Maz would return. They didn't admit that he might not return until after spring training. That means Scanlon would be trying to find a roster spot behind our veteran starter and a guy coming off 8 rookie starts.

The more likely scenario is that KC is one of only a few teams that even offered him anything. We brought him in as camp fodder. He's shown enough to make the practice squad, and get to NFLE.

The reality is, no one on this BB would have given two sh*ts about him if it weren't for your ridiculous overblown predictions, seeped in your "I know more about football than you" attitude. His performance in NFLE would have likely piqued interest, making most of us just now aware the guy exists. You cling to this ridiculous hope so that one day you can give a big fat "I told you so", but in the process have painted yourself as stubborn and patronizing, not mention ridiculously out of touch with reality.

Im not the one talking in circles...I shouldve expected a simple thing like logical conversation was beyond you. I mean, we are talking about Scanlon after all.

The statement "impact players such as LB Mike Maslowski" makes me laugh almost as much as Roy's man-crush on Scanlon.

You claiming you know me better than I know myself is a riot ! ROFL

The fact that we were weak at LB , not only the Chiefs knew it, it was mentioned when the Chiefs signed him. Again, I can laugh at you on this one too ! ROFL

To many, he was TC fodder because none of us knew him at all, except the few here associated with SU or lives in the NE area. But he did show enought tomerit the Chiefs keeping him.

ridiculous overblown predictions ? Just because I still believe in his ability and stand by that, you want to ridcule it ? :shake:

"WR Jeris McIntyre has seen duty in five games (one start) for the Rhein Fire, catching 13 passes for 294 yards (22.6 avg.) with a touchdown. He leads the league with a 22.6 yards per catch average and stands third in the league with 294 receiving yards. McIntyre has also returned five kickoffs for 89 yards (17.8 avg.) for the Fire. He caught six passes for a league-high 154 yards (25.7 avg.) at Hamburg (4/16)."


Anybody think McIntyre makes the roster this year?

BOO!!

(Things that go bump in the night.)

9-0! Sit down Maz hater!

I'm not so much a maSLOWski hater as I am a blind maSLOWski homer hater.

Resistence is futile! You will love Masl9-0ski!

that might be the funniest thing i have ever read on this site.

Oh, definitely. Sometime after he gets an injury settlement and we never have to hear his name again.

There, fixed your post for you.

Had a Donnie Edwards flashback there when you mentioned LBs being carried around on somebody's back.

I will say one thing about Maz. He very rarely missed a tackle, and was a good special teamer. With his attitude, I hope we make him either a LB or ST assistant coach. Just teaching proper angles to take and other tackling techniques could help the rookies, and Mitchell immensely. Otherwise I've no problem with either Boomer or Scanlon. IF they earn a spot on Gun's defense, then I'm sure they will have earned it, not based on what they did in the college or NFLE ranks but based on what they do against Professional level competition.