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Marco Polo 12-26-2006 03:41 PM

Herm: Trent will be starter in 2007
 
Got this from rotoworld, here is the link they provided:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/12...ference__1226/

Coach Herm Edwards said Trent Green would be his starting quarterback next season.
"Yeah, why wouldn’t he be?" Edwards asked. Talking about the position in general, Edwards said, "I think it would be a concern if you didn’t have a young guy in the wings. But that’s why we went out and drafted Brodie Croyle." For now, it looks like Kansas City won't seek out a veteran in the off-season. :hmmm:

Wile_E_Coyote 12-26-2006 03:43 PM

If it is between Green, Croyle & unknown QB....sure

Archie Bunker 12-26-2006 03:53 PM

Works for me. Green is still better than any 1 yr stopgap option and it gives Croyle 1 more year to learn.

DeezNutz 12-26-2006 03:57 PM

This thread title is pretty misleading, actually. In my opinion, Herm dodged the question by posing a rhetorical question: "Why wouldn't he?"

Well, let me start. 1. Happy Feet. 2. Back-foot passes. 3. He'll be 62...

In all honesty, what's Herm expected to say? "No, this will be his last game."

Let this be a lesson in coach-speak.

Chief Chief 12-26-2006 04:05 PM

Nice lecture, Professor Plum...

FloridaMan88 12-26-2006 04:08 PM

Upgrade the offensive line, upgrade the WR position and give Trent the opportunity to get back to doing what he was doing in the past (i.e. attacking downfield) and I'm all for Trent entering 2007 as the starter.

I'm already sick of Brodie Croyle. He is never going to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL. He is Pat Barnes Part II.

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
Works for me. Green is still better than any 1 yr stopgap option and it gives Croyle 1 more year to learn.

And it gives us chief fans one more year of assured suckiness! YAY for mediocrity!!!

DeezNutz 12-26-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief
Nice lecture, Professor Plum...

You're welcome, Mr. Dumas.

BigRedChief 12-26-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
This thread title is pretty misleading, actually. In my opinion, Herm dodged the question by posing a rhetorical question: "Why wouldn't he?"

Well, let me start. 1. Happy Feet. 2. Back-foot passes. 3. He'll be 62...

In all honesty, what's Herm expected to say? "No, this will be his last game."

Let this be a lesson in coach-speak.

I don't think its coach speak. As of right now he is the starter.
You think Croyle is ready?
Huard gets the nod for next season before he's even signed for next season?

A lot can change this off season. No need to throw Trent under the bus, yet. Which is what he would have been doing if he answered it any other way.

el borracho 12-26-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
This thread title is pretty misleading, actually. In my opinion, Herm dodged the question by posing a rhetorical question: "Why wouldn't he?"

Well, let me start. 1. Happy Feet. 2. Back-foot passes. 3. He'll be 62...

In all honesty, what's Herm expected to say? "No, this will be his last game."

Let this be a lesson in coach-speak.

The happy feet and back-foot passes can be fixed by fixing the Oline.
I don't see age as an immediate concern at this time.
The real issue, IMO, is the accuracy since returning from the concussion. Trent has been waaaaay off on the easy stuff. Some of it may be timing and rythym that will improve with more practice together but the passes that bounce at the receivers' feet are worrisome. I really wonder if Trent's egg may be permanently scrambled.

el borracho 12-26-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap
And it gives us chief fans one more year of assured suckiness! YAY for mediocrity!!!

Wrong. There are always QBs of Huard's ability available if a change is necessary. Lots of QBs could come in and hand off to LJ and hit Gonzalez on the intermediate routes. Assuming he is healthy, Trent gives us a chance to do more.

crazycoffey 12-26-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
This thread title is pretty misleading, actually. In my opinion, Herm dodged the question by posing a rhetorical question: "Why wouldn't he?"

Well, let me start. 1. Happy Feet. 2. Back-foot passes. 3. He'll be 62...

In all honesty, what's Herm expected to say? "No, this will be his last game."

Let this be a lesson in coach-speak.


ROFL ROFL ROFL

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 04:19 PM

el gattoe' negro, Why the hell did Huard look so much better when he was behind that same line????
Green looks like a prude school girl out there afraid of a little peer pressure!!

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Wrong. There are always QBs of Huard's ability available if a change is necessary. Lots of QBs could come in and hand off to LJ and hit Gonzalez on the intermediate routes. Assuming he is healthy, Trent gives us a chance to do more.

Is it just a coincidence that we won games by doing the above mentioned when huard was in there? Atleast we were winning games and looking competitive while huard was playing!

green has litteraly lost his mind! Hes lost it!

Redrum_69 12-26-2006 04:23 PM

We may be bringing Hostetler back

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 04:25 PM

Put Croyle in. Green is done. Huard isn't better than Croyle. Croyle should be no. 1

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 04:35 PM

Well, who do you think has a better poker face?

Mock moud sloppy dog ?
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/ahmadinejad_m_cp_9908058.jpg

Or.....

Herm "im feeled with worms" edwards?
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sport...herman0108.jpg

IS herm just putting on a poker face? Or is he really intent on wipeing isreal off the map? I mean... I dont know what i mean.. Decide for yourself.

Im outty yal!
Sharpton for pres!!!!!

http://www.nec.edu/academics/departm...images/as2.jpg

GoodDaySir! 12-26-2006 04:35 PM

Would you guys trade us Croyle for Cutler, pretty please?

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodDaySir!
Would you guys trade us Croyle for Cutler, pretty please?

Croyle deserves a shot like Cutler's got. Who knows, maybe Croyle could complete a screen pass against the raiders?

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodDaySir!
Would you guys trade us Croyle for Cutler, pretty please?

No. You can keep
http://www.aarongleeman.com/donvito.jpg

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Well played!

GoodDaySir! 12-26-2006 04:49 PM

Actually, I probably wouldn't trade our practice squad QB Preston Parsons for Croyle.

Having a legit young stud QB has really energized the entire team and fan base. I haven't had this much fun watching Bronco games in years.

Happy Kwanza, bitches.

Archie Bunker 12-26-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodDaySir!
Actually, I probably wouldn't trade our practice squad QB Preston Parsons for Croyle.

Having a legit young stud QB has really energized the entire team and fan base. I haven't had this much fun watching Bronco games in years.

Happy Kwanza, bitches.

I'm happy for you. The fall back to reality will be extremely hard on you.

el borracho 12-26-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap
el gattoe' negro, Why the hell did Huard look so much better when he was behind that same line????
Green looks like a prude school girl out there afraid of a little peer pressure!!

Huard played lesser teams.

blueballs 12-26-2006 05:20 PM

THEY PUT 8 IN THE BOX TO STOP LJ
NO RESPECT TO HUARD W A S GIVEN

SINK IN

Deberg_1990 12-26-2006 05:27 PM

Blah, blah , blah...nothing ever signifigantly changes with this team.......always afraid of making big changes....they always talk like they are just 1 or 2 players away.


Same old story.....

blueballs 12-26-2006 05:30 PM

yet you return

HonestChieffan 12-26-2006 05:31 PM

Another example why Herm is needing to be declared brain dead. OK we all love Trent, great guy. good QB....But Herm is saying before this season is over who he will start in 2007? What a dillweed.

tk13 12-26-2006 05:43 PM

I actually think the proactive thing is to actually fix the offensive line. That would be a typical Chiefs thing, to have two problems, QB and O-line, then fix the thing (QB) that is reliant on the other. This offseason should be focused on upgrading our lines... we've built this team backwards, it all starts up front. Huard isn't gonna lead us to the playoffs either unless the offensive line improves. Every time he faced a good D on the road he didn't play well.

DeezNutz 12-26-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho
The happy feet and back-foot passes can be fixed by fixing the Oline.
I don't see age as an immediate concern at this time.
The real issue, IMO, is the accuracy since returning from the concussion. Trent has been waaaaay off on the easy stuff. Some of it may be timing and rythym that will improve with more practice together but the passes that bounce at the receivers' feet are worrisome. I really wonder if Trent's egg may be permanently scrambled.

I agree that Green's accuracy has been the main problem. Like most sports, though, bad footwork leads to bad throws.

DeezNutz 12-26-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
A lot can change this off season. No need to throw Trent under the bus, yet. Which is what he would have been doing if he answered it any other way.

Doesn't this define coach-speak?

A reporter, likely an annoying fat troll-like blob, asks a stupid question and Herm's forced to respond. He doesn't want to cause a stir, and he might not even know the answer himself. Thus, he rattles off some :BS: and starved fans like ourselves make too much of it. I'm not trying to slam anyone; this is the kind of crap we resort to when our team has missed the playoffs for the better part of a decade.

The interesting part of this to me, however, is that it sounds like Herm believes in the 'Bama kid. Unless this is even more bs... :)

Bob Dole 12-26-2006 06:06 PM

Bob Dole wishes he had half the football insight of those who have already decided the long-term worth of Croyle.

Wow. Just, wow. How are you people not drawing a salary in the NFL?

Frankie 12-26-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
I'm already sick of Brodie Croyle. He is never going to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL. He is Pat Barnes Part II.

i don't understand this attitude. I, as a Chiefs fan, am hoping that Croyle is the answer to our QBOTF problem. Some, on the other hand are so sure he is a bust. :shake: I have no real evidence to be so hopeful. But have even less evidence to be so pessimistically sure.

splatbass 12-26-2006 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I'm already sick of Brodie Croyle. He is never going to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL.

How do you know this? He hasn't even played.

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 06:24 PM

chuhh... Yea kcchiefs88. dont make me pull out my brodie croyle vids!

DeezNutz 12-26-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie
i don't understand this attitude. I, as a Chiefs fan, am hoping that Croyle is the answer to our QBOTF problem. Some, on the other hand are so sure he is a bust. :shake: I have no real evidence to be so hopeful. But have even less evidence to be so pessimistically sure.

Couldn't agree more. I'm not going to take the time to go back through the threads, but I believe that quite a few people around here were pretty excited when Croyle was drafted.

Deberg_1990 12-26-2006 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
Couldn't agree more. I'm not going to take the time to go back through the threads, but I believe that quite a few people around here were pretty excited when Croyle was drafted.

Exactly. Considering how well Rivers and Cutler are playing for their teams, we damn well better wish Croyle is the real deal.

Brock 12-26-2006 06:34 PM

Croyle has too high INT/ATT percentage. 7 attempts with 2 interceptions, if you project that out over a whole season, he throws like 100 interceptions. :drool:

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
Couldn't agree more. I'm not going to take the time to go back through the threads, but I believe that quite a few people around here were pretty excited when Croyle was drafted.

Hey I was. I was mad they didn't snag him in the first round!

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Exactly. Considering how well Rivers and Cutler are playing for their teams, we damn well better wish Croyle is the real deal.

Well, look at the bright side. Atleast we have the raiders to fall back on as the bud of all jokes. We hopefully wont go down like the raiders are.

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap
Well, look at the bright side. Atleast we have the raiders to fall back on as the bud of all jokes. We hopefully wont go down like the raiders are.

Could be worse, we could have TO

ROYC75 12-26-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole
Bob Dole wishes he had half the football insight of those who have already decided the long-term worth of Croyle.

Wow. Just, wow. How are you people not drawing a salary in the NFL?

I know ESPN don't need anymore of these wacko's ........

Oh Snap 12-26-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest4Prez
Could be worse, we could have TO

Oh but his fingers hurt.

Manila-Chief 12-26-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie
i don't understand this attitude. I, as a Chiefs fan, am hoping that Croyle is the answer to our QBOTF problem. Some, on the other hand are so sure he is a bust. :shake: I have no real evidence to be so hopeful. But have even less evidence to be so pessimistically sure.

Well said Fankie ... several #1 pick QB's have washed out and there has been at least a couple late round picks that have been kinda good. Croyle has a chance ... especially given the fact he fell down the draft boards because of injuries/etc. ... He has a chance but he may blow it.

IIRC ... there were questions (and there still are questions ... since he has not "done it" over a couple of seasons) as to whether Cutler was a legit prospect. Cutler looks like the real deal for now but didn't Crouch look good for a few games???? So, you never know when it comes to QB's.

I wish Herm would give Croyle 3 or 4 series in the final game to help with his education. Herm is too focused upon being 9-7 ... I am focused upon preparing for next year.

Mecca 12-26-2006 09:49 PM

If they don't do anything about the line it won't matter....well other than Trent takes more sacks than he probably should.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-26-2006 09:53 PM

While I love Green, I think we should replace him in 08. And if I remember correctly, he did say he was pretty sure 07 would be his last year.

Priest4Prez 12-26-2006 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
If they don't do anything about the line it won't matter....well other than Trent takes more sacks than he probably should.

we should draft Joe Thomas to protect the should-be starter next year: Brodie Croyle.

CupidStunt 12-27-2006 02:17 AM

.500.

ChiefsLV 12-27-2006 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Upgrade the offensive line, upgrade the WR position and give Trent the opportunity to get back to doing what he was doing in the past (i.e. attacking downfield) and I'm all for Trent entering 2007 as the starter.

I couldn't have said it better.


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